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04-24-2017, 02:04 AM
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04-25-2017, 11:14 AM
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04-25-2017, 02:41 PM
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Helluva guy Winnson. He'll be a big loss to this forum.
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04-26-2017, 08:03 PM
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where is winnson? i would like his thoughts on all these developments

dude was leaving me snarky messages day in and day out when i was bashing trump. now all my claims have been substantiated
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Yesterday, 06:22 AM
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(04-26-2017 08:03 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  where is winnson? i would like his thoughts on all these developments

dude was leaving me snarky messages day in and day out when i was bashing trump. now all my claims have been substantiated

You're doing exactly what I predicted you would do some 7 months back. You had laid out a position where you would claim you were right no matter what happened in the election. You're very transparent.

I'm OK with Trump so far. He keeps trying to execute his promises that he made on the campaign trail. He has hit road blocks but still stayed on track. Between the MSM, activist judges and party politics blocking him he has still managed to make changes through executive orders. He has pealed back a lot of what Obama did. I am expecting our economy to be doing really well by next year.
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Yesterday, 08:42 AM
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(Yesterday 06:22 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(04-26-2017 08:03 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  where is winnson? i would like his thoughts on all these developments

dude was leaving me snarky messages day in and day out when i was bashing trump. now all my claims have been substantiated

You're doing exactly what I predicted you would do some 7 months back. You had laid out a position where you would claim you were right no matter what happened in the election. You're very transparent.

I'm OK with Trump so far. He keeps trying to execute his promises that he made on the campaign trail. He has hit road blocks but still stayed on track. Between the MSM, activist judges and party politics blocking him he has still managed to make changes through executive orders. He has pealed back a lot of what Obama did. I am expecting our economy to be doing really well by next year.

i have been quite consistent. always doubtful from the beginning with an increasing crescendo of suspicion as the election wore on.

I was wrong about him not winning, but not due of lack of support, but due to vote rigging. I also believed if he was going to do 20% of what he said he was going to do, it would have been too much of a diversion from the great work

I have been very consistent about questioning his anti new world order credentials from the get go.. I also flirted with the possibility he might be somewhat legit but I didn't believe the US system was uncontrolled enough to allow someone like this to slip through the cracks.

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Yesterday, 08:47 AM
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i wanted to give him a chance, and that's probably why you think I tried to have one foot on each side.

I wanted him to be real, but by mid to late last year I knew he wasn't. Esp. after the groveling to AIPAC and getting all that Adelson money. Then of course there was the mysterious handler Jared Kushner.

IF you review all my posts in this thread you can tell I've been quite consistent.

I WAS WRONG about him not being able to win, but that was because I believed he would at least HOLD TO SOME Of HIS PROMISES

I have been totally vindicated about Trump being a stooge of the NWO. people have to give me credit for this. People who have studied how the US system works would know such a figure would be impossible without a major draining of the swamp
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Yesterday, 09:24 AM
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Yesterday, 09:42 AM
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(Yesterday 08:47 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  i wanted to give him a chance, and that's probably why you think I tried to have one foot on each side.

I wanted him to be real, but by mid to late last year I knew he wasn't. Esp. after the groveling to AIPAC and getting all that Adelson money. Then of course there was the mysterious handler Jared Kushner.

IF you review all my posts in this thread you can tell I've been quite consistent.

I WAS WRONG about him not being able to win, but that was because I believed he would at least HOLD TO SOME Of HIS PROMISES

I have been totally vindicated about Trump being a stooge of the NWO. people have to give me credit for this. People who have studied how the US system works would know such a figure would be impossible without a major draining of the swamp

Surely you can see that Trump is trying to keep his campaign promises, right? Can you give him some credit for that? That's why many of us voted for him. He is not letting us down in that respect.

I always knew he would be good for Israel. I think I've said that all along.

All US presidents end up having to work within this system we have in place. If Paul Ryan can't get stuff done in congress that's not Trump's fault. Right now he is facing the backlash created by 8 years of Republican opposition to Obama. The Democrats are executing payback right now and will not do anything to help Trump achieve his agenda. It's a toxic environment that the Republicans helped create the last 8 years. But he is trying to keep his promises. I can appreciate that.
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Yesterday, 10:04 AM
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i agree also, but IMO if he was serious he would take a more measured and strategic approach.

the healthcare thing fucked up badly because he didn't take the time to do it. you can't overturn that with the stroke of a pen. it needs at least months if not years of coalition building

part of me believes he still wants to do good, but he just can't because the problem is the entire system is corrupt. I just thought he would be less beholden to interest groups due to his vast wealth.

i really do think they have a dossier on him
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Yesterday, 10:42 AM (This post was last modified: Yesterday 10:45 AM by pilgrim.)
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(Yesterday 10:04 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  i agree also, but IMO if he was serious he would take a more measured and strategic approach.

the healthcare thing fucked up badly because he didn't take the time to do it. you can't overturn that with the stroke of a pen. it needs at least months if not years of coalition building

part of me believes he still wants to do good, but he just can't because the problem is the entire system is corrupt. I just thought he would be less beholden to interest groups due to his vast wealth.

i really do think they have a dossier on him


You nailed it with this; "the problem is the entire system is corrupt."

I know the strike on Syria bothered some people. It left me uneasy also. But it did send a strong message and it was a measured approach. He hit a military base where the chemical attack seemed to come from. It was a plane that flew out of that base and was over the target when the chemical attack happened. My preference would have been to investigate further but they decided to respond when they did. It did help to send the message to NK and China that this administration is not like the Obama administration. Maybe Iran and Russia got the message also. If this one strike helps to cause caution in our enemies then it's not a totally bad thing, IMO.

The main thing for me is that the president is trying to deliver on his promises. He hasn't gotten much help so far but he is trying and I can respect that. Supposedly today the Freedom Caucus is signing on to the new Health Care replacement bill. So he can probably get that through the house now. No telling what happens in the senate but the president is working to make it happen. I agree that maybe the first attempt was premature and rushed. But that's part of Trump's learning process. It took Obama over a year to deliver on Obamacare. Things move slow at that level.

You've called Ivanka a snake a couple of times on here. I was curious what that was about. What has she done that makes you say that?
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Yesterday, 11:39 AM
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RE: The Candidacy and Presidency of Donald Trump
(Yesterday 10:42 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(Yesterday 10:04 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  i agree also, but IMO if he was serious he would take a more measured and strategic approach.

the healthcare thing fucked up badly because he didn't take the time to do it. you can't overturn that with the stroke of a pen. it needs at least months if not years of coalition building

part of me believes he still wants to do good, but he just can't because the problem is the entire system is corrupt. I just thought he would be less beholden to interest groups due to his vast wealth.

i really do think they have a dossier on him


You nailed it with this; "the problem is the entire system is corrupt."

I know the strike on Syria bothered some people. It left me uneasy also. But it did send a strong message and it was a measured approach. He hit a military base where the chemical attack seemed to come from. It was a plane that flew out of that base and was over the target when the chemical attack happened. My preference would have been to investigate further but they decided to respond when they did. It did help to send the message to NK and China that this administration is not like the Obama administration. Maybe Iran and Russia got the message also. If this one strike helps to cause caution in our enemies then it's not a totally bad thing, IMO.

The main thing for me is that the president is trying to deliver on his promises. He hasn't gotten much help so far but he is trying and I can respect that. Supposedly today the Freedom Caucus is signing on to the new Health Care replacement bill. So he can probably get that through the house now. No telling what happens in the senate but the president is working to make it happen. I agree that maybe the first attempt was premature and rushed. But that's part of Trump's learning process. It took Obama over a year to deliver on Obamacare. Things move slow at that level.

You've called Ivanka a snake a couple of times on here. I was curious what that was about. What has she done that makes you say that?

The narrative justifying this attack has been comprehensibly debunked (see, amongst other things, the MIT professor's discussion on the impossibility of the U.S. position re: the Syrian government); moreover, the U.S. government never presented evidence that Syria carried out the alleged attack, and has even vetoed efforts to have an investigation conducted on the ground, preferring instead to act first and find evidence later.

Even more appalling, though, is the selective outcry on the part of Trump and a section of his support base, chickenhawk liberals, and the usual deep-state propagandists, who basically ignore all the atrocities that have been committed by the 'rebel' factions, funded by the U.S. and its allies, against Syrian civilians (including many innocent children) since this proxy war began yet somehow discover their conscience when it is designated deserving victims who are killed (the lack of concern towards the bus slaughter of Shia children being a recent example of this pattern). (*They not only ignore these atrocities but commit many of their own directly.)

But, for me, the icing on the cake around this conflict is when people claiming to be Christian support in any form people working to exterminate Christianity from the birthplace of the religion: the Middle East.

Both Orwell and Huxley could not have written a better script to account for this mess.
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Yesterday, 11:53 AM
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RE: The Candidacy and Presidency of Donald Trump
(Yesterday 10:42 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(Yesterday 10:04 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  i agree also, but IMO if he was serious he would take a more measured and strategic approach.

the healthcare thing fucked up badly because he didn't take the time to do it. you can't overturn that with the stroke of a pen. it needs at least months if not years of coalition building

part of me believes he still wants to do good, but he just can't because the problem is the entire system is corrupt. I just thought he would be less beholden to interest groups due to his vast wealth.

i really do think they have a dossier on him


You nailed it with this; "the problem is the entire system is corrupt."

I know the strike on Syria bothered some people. It left me uneasy also. But it did send a strong message and it was a measured approach. He hit a military base where the chemical attack seemed to come from. It was a plane that flew out of that base and was over the target when the chemical attack happened. My preference would have been to investigate further but they decided to respond when they did. It did help to send the message to NK and China that this administration is not like the Obama administration. Maybe Iran and Russia got the message also. If this one strike helps to cause caution in our enemies then it's not a totally bad thing, IMO.

The main thing for me is that the president is trying to deliver on his promises. He hasn't gotten much help so far but he is trying and I can respect that. Supposedly today the Freedom Caucus is signing on to the new Health Care replacement bill. So he can probably get that through the house now. No telling what happens in the senate but the president is working to make it happen. I agree that maybe the first attempt was premature and rushed. But that's part of Trump's learning process. It took Obama over a year to deliver on Obamacare. Things move slow at that level.

You've called Ivanka a snake a couple of times on here. I was curious what that was about. What has she done that makes you say that?

i call her a snake because it is very clear now that Jared Kushner is having a huge influence over Trump.. and Ivanka is doing nothing really to stop the actions that is making Trump's support base turn on him.

we all know women exert tremendous influence over their husbands and have veto power and virtually anything, esp.someone as intelligent as Ivanka. Part of me thinks she and kushner are closet neo-liberals hijacking Trump's presidency.

But at the end of the day Trump is to blame.. OR.. they have some real dirt on him and he has to tow the line. Either way he fucked up

if you want to go into politics to change things for the better make sure you are as clean as a whistle. this is why the most formidable opponents of the NWO were always celibate priests. no fuck, no drugs.. no dossier.

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Today, 04:11 AM
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If he turns out to be even half as as bad as Killary, then he is worse than Killary as he'd have demoralized the anti globalist movement worldwide. After these first 100 days in office I think about the French elections and feel tired. He cant be ruled completely out just yet but as a way of self preservation CTers and nationalists wont put any more stock in him risking setting themselves up for further dissapointment.
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