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Interesting CT Book on Music Theory
08-06-2018, 03:53 AM (This post was last modified: 08-06-2018 04:03 AM by kungfool.)
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(08-14-2017 04:29 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  according to the not always reliable Jordan Maxwell it stands for GENERATIVE force or the sex act

it might be a six too, since SIX is prob related to the word SEX

This all seems correct. The Major 6th is the harmonic of greatest resonance, it makes sense to see that as the generative force.

The correlation of '6' with the the infinite spiral and letter 'G' and 'Gnostic" and '666' is too obvious not to notice.

However, the infinite spiral created by the Golden Ratio is actually the opposite, it's the least resonant harmonic; the restriction of growth; the thing that makes bodies curve back into themselves and become closed shapes.
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08-06-2018, 07:30 AM
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(08-06-2018 01:21 AM)Billygoat Wrote:  I don't think it matters much if at all.

if you listen to something in 432, then sudden the same song is switched to 440.. the diff is apparent.

there is more agitation with the 440

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08-06-2018, 10:35 PM
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(08-06-2018 07:30 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(08-06-2018 01:21 AM)Billygoat Wrote:  I don't think it matters much if at all.

if you listen to something in 432, then sudden the same song is switched to 440.. the diff is apparent.

there is more agitation with the 440

My guess is that a lot of mainstream hollywood popculture music is produced at 440hz on purpose

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08-06-2018, 11:11 PM
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yeah they say that the cymatics for 440 is more indistinct and chaotic, but I still have to verify this
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08-06-2018, 11:13 PM
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i can hear it for sure.. as 440 sounds jarring if played after 432. there is a mellow pleasing characteristic to 432 for sure.

but i'm not sure if the cymatics are different. here is another experiment done which shows no diff.

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08-07-2018, 03:45 AM
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This has all been debunked years ago.

-- The psychoacoutic effects of playing 440 followed by 432 illicit the same response from listeners as going from 432 to 412. It's simply a matter of lower pitch and in most cases, the strings having more slack from downtuning.

-- The claims that 432 is special because it divides into more whole numbers is meaningless. Frequency is the inverse of a second, and a second is a totally arbitrary slice of time. Whether or not a frequency divides into whole numbers or partials makes absolutely no difference.

-- The patterns you see from Cymatics are a function of both the frequency and the medium vibrated (the plate). Change the size of the plate, and the frequency that will create a specific pattern will shift as well.


The magic is in the Ratio's, not any fixed Frequencies.
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08-07-2018, 04:22 AM
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Quote:-- The psychoacoutic effects of playing 440 followed by 432 illicit the same response from listeners as going from 432 to 412.

probably true. however played side by side, 432 sounds better to my ears

once you go from 440 to 412 though, the diff. in pitch is more than half a semi-tone, so it will start to sound weird
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08-07-2018, 04:27 AM
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Quote:-- The psychoacoutic effects of playing 440 followed by 432 illicit the same response from listeners as going from 432 to 412. It's simply a matter of lower pitch and in most cases, the strings having more slack from downtuning.

well the diff. can be heard with recordings as well.

some keys sound better, so why not different tunings?

i personally think 432 sounds better, although the reasoning prob does not have to do with mystism or sacred geometry
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08-07-2018, 05:37 AM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2018 05:37 AM by kungfool.)
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(08-07-2018 04:27 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  well the diff. can be heard with recordings as well.

some keys sound better, so why not different tunings?

Good question. Most instruments are tuned to C Equal Temperament. As you know, Equal Temperament was a way to make all keys playable without retuning an instrument, by equally distributing a number of flaws / imperfections to every key. So your perfect 4th in C might be a few cents flat, while your Major 3rd in D might end up a few cents sharp etc. This is why, especially on a Piano, different keys have different character.

If you were to take an instrument like a guitar, and downtune it, none of this would happen. All of the imperfections would be in the same places. The same would be true if you tuned an instrument for Just Temperment in one Key, then tuned it for Just Temperment in another key. All of the intervals would stay exactly the same.

I hope that makes sense. Let me know if any of it was poorly explained.
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08-07-2018, 05:49 AM
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yes I know about equal temperament.

perfect tuning would be just intonation. equal tempermant makes certain pitches a bit off so one can modulate into diff. keys

but my point is, certain keys do have moods.. even though you could play the same song in diff. keys.. but they would sound diff.

tuning to 432, is effectively playing the same stuff, but relatively everything has been pitched down 32 cents

IMO it sounds better than 440.. esp. when compared side by side. it's not due to magic, but my preference
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08-07-2018, 06:48 AM
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(08-07-2018 04:27 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  i personally think 432 sounds better, although the reasoning prob does not have to do with mystism or sacred geometry

I accept this.

There have been dozens of pitch references over the years, and A=440 just happened to be the one that stuck and became the international standard. Everything from A=235hz to A=450hz has been used. Some classical orchestras have been using A=432 for centuries. It's not some secret frequency.

Almost all of the A=440 conspiracy theories I come across (that it's some Nazi/Vatican co-conspiracy to oppress humanity) lacks understanding of ratio's and intervals. It's like thinking a dowell rod or beam has a magical length. No, the magic is in the angles and ratios of the structures that you build these things into.
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08-07-2018, 07:02 AM
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the cymatic differences are most likely fake.. however just the tuning sounds better to me.. just like how certain songs need to be played in certain keys

if you claim it sounds the same, then you could also claim something played in C major and C# major sounds basically the same, but it doesn't

so the A placed at 432 IMO is better... it has a more relaxed and I guess "sacred" feel to it

like I said it's very apparent when you hear one after another.

a440 sounds fine, until you hear the same thing in a432
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09-03-2018, 07:54 AM
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09-03-2018, 07:56 AM
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lol. such a revolutionary technology , with such bland and uninspired canned music



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09-03-2018, 08:58 AM
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counterpoint to A432 claims:

https://www.roelhollander.eu/en/tuning-f...s-and-440/
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