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06-24-2017, 01:17 AM (This post was last modified: 06-24-2017 01:18 AM by pilgrim.)
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Actually I have perused this thread several times in the past. Your mistake is thinking this thread is the end all of information on the war in Syria. There is a lot of good information available on the internet.

I also have another view on things that is based on a biblical outlook. The same thing with other areas of the middle east and around the world. A lot of what is happening is starting to fit into prophecies in the bible and are worth noting. There is a lot to learn and this thread is not the only place to learn things. Keep an open mind. You have only yourself to blame for your ignorance.
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06-24-2017, 01:31 AM
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(06-24-2017 01:17 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  Actually I have perused this thread several times in the past. Your mistake is thinking this thread is the end all of information on the war in Syria. There is a lot of good information available on the internet.

I also have another view on things that is based on a biblical outlook. The same thing with other areas of the middle east and around the world. A lot of what is happening is starting to fit into prophecies in the bible and are worth noting. There is a lot to learn and this thread is not the only place to learn things. Keep an open mind. You have only yourself to blame for your ignorance.

Skimming a thread of this volume is simply not the same as actually reading it.

You don't get an accurate view with cliff notes.

Post your thoughts and the evidence that backs up your views.

Otherwise, you are merely asserting that the info in this thread is biased (and therefore unreliable) without really examining said info, and without providing anything that supports your assertion.

I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.
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06-24-2017, 01:34 AM
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Why don't you just post what you want and ignore me. We aren't going to be able to have a real dialogue. Peace.
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06-24-2017, 02:00 AM
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(06-24-2017 01:34 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  Why don't you just post what you want and ignore me. We aren't going to be able to have a real dialogue. Peace.

Why don't you actually review the mountain of information on this thread instead of writing it off out of hand?

I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.
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07-20-2017, 01:43 PM
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Quote:Trump ends CIA program to arm, train anti-Assad rebels in Syria: U.S. officials

The Trump administration has decided to halt the CIA’s covert program to equip and train certain rebel groups fighting the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, two U.S. officials said, a move sought by Assad ally Russia.

The U.S. decision, said one of the officials, is part of an effort by the administration to improve relations with Russia, which along with Iranian-supported groups has largely succeeded in preserving Assad’s government in the six-year-civil war.

The CIA program began in 2013 as part of efforts by the administration of then-President Barack Obama to overthrow Assad, but produced little success, said the officials, both of whom are familiar with the program and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The Washington Post was first to report the program’s suspension on Wednesday. White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders declined to comment on the topic at the White House briefing.

The CIA also declined to comment.

The decision was made with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and CIA Director Mike Pompeo after they consulted with lower ranking officials and before Trump’s July 7 meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in Germany. It was not part of U.S.-Russian negotiations on a ceasefire in southwestern Syria, the two officials said.

One of the officials said the United States was not making a major concession, given Assad’s grip on power, although not on all of Syria, “but it’s a signal to Putin that the administration wants to improve ties to Russia.”

Trump is under intense scrutiny by Congress and a special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and whether Trump’s campaign had ties to the activity. Russia has denied U.S. intelligence agencies’ allegations of Moscow meddling, and Trump has denied collusion between his campaign and Russians.

A downside of the CIA program, one of the officials said, is that some armed and trained rebels defected to Islamic State and other radical groups, and some members of the previous administration favoured abandoning the program.

Before assuming office in January, Trump suggested he could end support for Free Syrian Army groups and give priority to the fight against Islamic State.

A separate effort by the U.S. military effort to train, arm and support other Syrian rebel groups with air strikes and other actions will continue, the officials said.

However, aside from air strikes after the Syrian military launched a chemical weapons attack, the Trump administration has not increased military support from the limits set by the Obama administration.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor...e35743136/

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07-20-2017, 05:38 PM
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Quote:Turkey Leaks Secret Locations of U.S. Troops in Syria

Ankara has long been angered by the alliance between Washington and Kurdish factions. But a new report exposing secret American bases is a dangerous way to strike back.

In the latest display of Turkish anger at U.S. policy in Syria, the state news agency has divulged the locations of 10 U.S. military bases and outposts in northern Syria where the U.S. is leading an operation to destroy the so-called Islamic State in its self-styled capital of Raqqa.

The list published by the Anadolu news agency points to a U.S. presence from one end to the other of the Kurdish self-administration region—a distance of more than 200 miles. The Anadolu news agency even listed the number of U.S. troops in several locations and in two instances stipulated the presence of French special forces.
Turkey has openly criticized the Trump administration—and the Obama administration before it—for relying in the battle against ISIS on a militia led by Kurds affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers Party or PKK. A separatist movement now at war with Turkey, the PKK has been listed by the U.S., EU, and Turkey as a terror organization.

To avoid the appearance of allying with such a group, the U.S. military set up the Syrian Democratic Forces, which have a large component of Arab recruits. But they are led by officers from the People’s Protection Units (YPG), the Syrian affiliate of the PKK.
Although Turkey’s powerful president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, regularly vents his anger at the U.S., it is still highly unusual for a NATO ally to reveal details of a U.S. military deployment during active operations in a war zone. But the U.S. operation in Syria is in many respects an unusual case. Not only is the United States acting against the express wishes of NATO ally Turkey, which says its national security is directly endangered, it’s also operating without the permission of the Assad regime.

After a meeting Monday evening, Turkey’s National Security Council charged that weapons provided to the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia had come into the possession of the PKK. “This shows that both are the same organization,” it said, adding that other countries were using a “double standard” for terror groups, an apparent reference to the U.S. alliance with the YPG militia.

The U.S. has denied repeatedly that arms it is supplying to the Kurdish fighters have seeped into the PKK war against the Turkish state, and the Turkish government did not back up its allegations with evidence.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/turkey-leak...s-in-syria
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07-20-2017, 05:42 PM
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Quote:US Armored Vehicles Pouring Into Syrian Kurdish Territory

Officials: Vehicles Aren't Part of Aid to Kurdish YPG

A growing number of videos and pictures released in the past week show large numbers of US armored vehicles being delivered into Syrian Kurdistan, suggesting a massive escalation in the positioning of US military assets in the country.

Officials insist that the vehicles shown in the videos are not in any way part of US military aid being provided to the Kurdish YPG, suggesting that the US is deploying the vehicles there with the intention of American troops using them.

This must inevitably raise questions about whether this undeniably substantial vehicle surge into Syrian Kurdistan portends a major new deployment of US ground troops into the area to operate them. That these are armored vehicles also suggests further loosening of the US “non-combat” claims.

Unfortunately, we may not get a definitive answer about more US ground deployments, as the Pentagon has made it a matter of policy not to offer specific US troop levels in either Iraq or Syria, a decision that was made after months of overtly lying about troop levels in Iraq to pretend they hadn’t exceeded negotiated caps.

http://news.antiwar.com/2017/07/19/us-ar...territory/
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07-20-2017, 06:04 PM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2017 06:04 PM by Rako.)
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(06-24-2017 01:17 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  Actually I have perused this thread several times in the past. Your mistake is thinking this thread is the end all of information on the war in Syria. There is a lot of good information available on the internet.

I also have another view on things that is based on a biblical outlook. The same thing with other areas of the middle east and around the world. A lot of what is happening is starting to fit into prophecies in the bible and are worth noting. There is a lot to learn and this thread is not the only place to learn things. Keep an open mind. You have only yourself to blame for your ignorance.
Just remember that now since this civil war started, Christians are getting crucified, beheaded, and forced into a life of sex slavery in Syria due to the "Freedom Fighter" Wahhabi headcutters.

Yes, Assad was an authoritarian president like a lot of Asian leaders, and the country needed a democratic overhaul, but still he kept the country stable and secular without mass persecution of Christians.

You need to see what the Wahhabi "Freedom Fighters" are doing to Christians or else your "Christianity" is really a smokescreen covering up for these mass killings of real Christians. A smokescreen and an "outlook" that in practice supports the persecuting forces cannot be called "Biblical" any more than the Assyrian and Babylonian conquerors of ancient Israel had a "Biblical outlook".
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Yesterday, 05:35 PM
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Syria after ISIS: U.S. on 'collision course' with Iran and Russia
https://www.axios.com/what-happens-after...72783.html

Quote:The U.S. is on a "collision course" with Iran and Russia in a key territory of Syria once the battle to root ISIS out of its de-facto capital, Raqqa, is complete, per Anne Barnard of the NY Times.
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The Pentagon told Axios "the Coalition is not seeking to claim land or conquer territory...does not seek to fight the Syrian regime, Russian or pro-regime forces...but is well prepared to defend itself from hostile threats."
So "the Coalition" is illegally supporting rebels and is prepared to fight the government if it tries to take control again over its own territory?
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Today, 12:10 AM
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Former Marine Intelligence Officer and former UN Chief Weapons Inspector for Iraq, Scott Ritter, joins the Liberty Report today to explain why in his vast intelligence and WMD experience he believes the "Russia hacking" US Intel Report is bogus and why the "Assad used gas" conventional wisdom is just more fake news. Ritter's expertise sheds much-welcome actual light onto these two vexing issues, where so much empty speculation seems to drive the thinking.



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(Yesterday 05:35 PM)Rako Wrote:  Syria after ISIS: U.S. on 'collision course' with Iran and Russia
https://www.axios.com/what-happens-after...72783.html

Quote:The U.S. is on a "collision course" with Iran and Russia in a key territory of Syria once the battle to root ISIS out of its de-facto capital, Raqqa, is complete, per Anne Barnard of the NY Times.
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The Pentagon told Axios "the Coalition is not seeking to claim land or conquer territory...does not seek to fight the Syrian regime, Russian or pro-regime forces...but is well prepared to defend itself from hostile threats."
So "the Coalition" is illegally supporting rebels and is prepared to fight the government if it tries to take control again over its own territory?

So coalition forces are looking to defend Syrian ground from Syria. That makes sense. Strong position.

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