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01-24-2014, 02:40 PM
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(01-24-2014 12:53 PM)Megatherium Wrote:  
(01-24-2014 12:47 PM)BRIC Countries Wrote:  
(01-23-2014 04:50 PM)W. Jones Wrote:  Let's say for a moment that we are back in 2010 and pretend that there were no Jihadis in Syria. Some people there wanted democracy and started protesting. They wanted a democratic change of government, and some of them wanted Assad to leave. In fat, I heard that Assad's nonreligious government is very authoritarian, and sometimes harsh.

I remember hearing stories about the Syrian police attacking protestors. This would not be a complete surprise- although I do not agree with it, it does happen in lots of countries sometimes. At some point thereafter parts of Syria's army were defecting and starting to make a Civil War.

In the perhaps over-idealized world I created above, would one say that the rebels were the good guys? Maybe not. Maybe there was still a certain space allowed for dissent and also a possibility for government reform in Syria? The Syrian government has claimed that it wants reforms.

What seems to be happening is that some people, including in the US, who believe in democracy, seem to be limiting themselves to the set of facts above.


In reality, there are two other factors- Gen. Wesley Clark said that he was told about 10 years ago that Syria, Iraq, Libya, and other Middle East countries were going to get taken down. There are lots of proxy fighters in Syria, and 100,000 or more casualties. Plus, what portion of the insurgents are democrats and what portion are strong fundamentalists?

Does this new information and events change the picture of whether the rebellion was good, or even if it is best if Assad and the regular army are destroyed at this point?

Due to time constraints, I am providing a rushed response to these important points:

1) There have always been protests against this government; what you witnessed in 2010, from the accounts I've read, some of which are posted on this thread, was not a spontaneous event; whether it included members of Syrian society disaffected with the government I'm not questioning. Every proxy "uprising" needs some type of cover.

2) The disaffected army members joined the ranks of the FSA, who have been generously funded throughout this conflict by the Qatari royals; these are the same Royals that, just prior to the commencement of the conflict, had been shut out of the Syria oil/gas sector by Assad, who had opted instead to sign deals with Russia.

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Quote:I remember hearing stories about the Syrian police attacking protestors.

I've heard it was the opposite and have watched videos documenting the same. But even if you're right, that wouldn't account for the longevity of the conflict. Moreover, does completely destroying the infrastructure of a society and dividing a country along sectarian lines somehow improve a society? That, of course, has been the narrative advanced by the Western slave media and states throughout this conflict.

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Quote:Maybe there was still a certain space allowed for dissent and also a possibility for government reform in Syria?[/color] The Syrian government has claimed that it wants reforms.

Has not just claimed, but implemented them, including setting elections dates.

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Quote:What seems to be happening is that some people, including in the US, who believe in democracy, seem to be limiting themselves to the set of facts above.[/b]

This couldn't be further from the truth. Read through this thread from the beginning. A lot of the juicy details are near the beginning outlining the U.S. role in funding groups hostile to Syrian democracy, including the Jihadists it claims to oppose. Moreover, there's the simple fact that the bulk of the funding for this conflict has come from the coffers of the two worst dictatorships on the planet -- namely, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. These sheikdoms are controlled by the U.S. -- who has fleets stationed right off their coasts and, I believe, bases on their territory, at least in the case of the Saudis. If Obama wanted this funding to stop, he could achieve that at the flip of a switch.

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Quote:In reality, there are two other factors- Gen. Wesley Clark said that he was told about 10 years ago that Syria, Iraq, Libya, and other Middle East countries were going to get taken down. There are lots of proxy fighters in Syria, and 100,000 or more casualties. Plus, what portion of the insurgents are democrats and what portion are strong fundamentalists?

It was spelled out in the Yinon report of the 80s, which has been discussed on this board.

The number of proxy fighters -- or percentage of non-Syrian fighters fighting the Syrian state and the ideological make up of all of the fighters in the conflict, according to intelligence reports -- has been documented in this thread. The vast majority of the fighters, as these intelligence reports have shown, subscribe to fundamentalist Sunni Islam. The secular fighters, if they exist at all at his point, are so marginal to even merit discussion. So it's pointless even discussing "democrats" on the "rebel" side, as it would be discussing hypotheticals.

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Quote:Does this new information and events change the picture of whether the rebellion was good, or even if it is best if Assad and the regular army are destroyed at this point?

I would look at the cost of the war rather than posing hypothetical questions. The war, perpetuated by groups with no interest in democratic reform, has cost 100 000 plus Syrian lives, destroyed the infrastructure in many parts of the country, and set the economy probably decades back. These types of sectarian conflicts are not events any society easily recovers from, and certainly in a region as volatile as the Middle East.

And for what? To replace a society with restricted political freedoms with an Islamic dictatorship modelled on the Gulf Sheikdoms of Saudi Arabis or Qatar, where people become the cattle of the governing and women become the property of their husbands?

The thread needs reading. A lot of time and effort has gone into presenting this horror show. The Orthodox Christian genocide hasn't even been touched on in this side discussion..

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