SYRIA - Discussion Thread

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could it be true that the avg. westerner is a fan of these assaults on these secular regimes?

Is it the feeling of power they get when their govt. is ransacking these helpless countries?

I'm really curious, because if you truly care for peace, you would speak against this.

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(04-09-2013 01:21 PM)Hellfire Awaits Wrote:  These MSM retards in the American media are hyping up the idea that Bashir al Assad is some sort of crazed Hitleresque dictator who is, of course, the worst thing on earth since Ghadaffi. And of course, we're not exactly saying that we have to go to war against Syria, but, ummm, democracy! Freedom! Terrorists! USA numbah one! What a bunch of shit heads.

The worst thing is that if you watch Al Jazeera or Russia Today, you will HEAR these Sunni rebels openly declare that as soon as they get into power, they will oppress the Christians, Shia, and Allawites, institute Sharia law, declare hostility to the West, etc.... and these retards are freedom powers to you goat scrotums?? Is something wrong with your frontal lobes?

They said the EXACT same thing about Ghadaffi. Did he commit some atrocities? Sure. But not because he was a uniquely oppressive guy. Both he and Assad are strongmen who 1) wish to maintain the status quo, and 2) mercilessly crush anyone who challenges their rule. You are a tard if you assume, therefore, that anybody who opposes him is a "freedom fighter". No. This is like calling Communists who fought against the Chinese warlords in 1920 "freedom fighters", instead of dangerous thugs.

These Islamic radicals are 100% more oppressive and dangerous than any Arab dictator. Saddam Hussein was a declared ENEMY of Al Qaeda. And yet the American shitheads had to depose him, because, uhhh, he was gonna make nukes out of camel turds and date palms. And now they act all surprised when Christians are being murdered in the streets every day, and the entire country has descended into chaos.


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Oppression of Christians and minority sects is exactly what the Iraqi experience has been, with tolerant multi-religious Syria available and willing to house the great influx of Iraqi Christians, Yezidis and Mandean-Sabean gnostics as refugees by the tens of thousands. Toppling Syria leaves Lebanon as the last Christian friendly country in the region. It must be next on the US to do list.

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^ they have now classified Catholics as Extremists. yes the dept. of defense did this.

Putin has vowed to protect Christianity worldwide. he sees what I see.

there is a reason why I talk about something I don't really believe in. It is the spiritual counter-force.

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(04-09-2013 03:04 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  could it be true that the avg. westerner is a fan of these assaults on these secular regimes?

Is it the feeling of power they get when their govt. is ransacking these helpless countries?

I'm really curious, because if you truly care for peace, you would speak against this.

It's either that or they're desperate to see the creation of a medieval mono-religious, mono-ethnic Sunni fundamentalist Caliphate in the middle east. That seems to be their governments plan.

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the Christian evangelicals are praying for armaggedon. they are part of the problem too. British dispensionalist christianity

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(04-09-2013 03:16 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  ^ they have now classified Catholics as Extremists. yes the dept. of defense did this.

Putin has vowed to protect Christianity worldwide. he sees what I see.

there is a reason why I talk about something I don't really believe in. It is the spiritual counter-force.

Of course, the great Assyrian-Iraqi statesman Tariq Aziz is Catholic, and he sits in a dungeon waiting to die.

http://www.acnuk.org/news.php/176/iraq-b...azizs-life

http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.ca/20...rophe.html

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/0...58323.html

http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.ca/20...to-be.html

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Saddam Hussein was extremely tolerant toward Christians during his tenure. He did oppress the Kurds and the marsh Arabs, but only because they dared to challenge his rule. He ruthlessly suppressed the Shia majority for exactly the same reason.

Any objective, dispassionate observer of Iraq during this time period would have LAUGHED at the idea that Saddam would have made his bed with Islamist radicals. Really, allies with the same people who had been trying to destabilize his regime for decades? Terrorists who were funded largely by Saudi Arabia, a sworn enemy of the Ba'athist state? What a bunch of clowns.


It is impossible to exaggerate just how retarded the Bush administration acted during this time period. Bush had people in his cabinet who did not even know the difference between Sunni and Shi'ite. Donald Rumsfeld famously stated that invading Iraq would result in little opposition from the populace, because Iraq had no holy places, unlike Saudi Arabia. Oops, except Iraq houses Karbala, one of the HOLIEST places in Shia Islam. You think the locals won't get mad when a bunch of infidel soldiers defile it with their presence? Dipshits.

In 2006 Iraq reached a point where something like 99 out of 100 "insurgents" were local Iraqis. And of course, the usa required a new surge of troops to deal with the new "terrorist" menace. Yeah, you retards. The locals are trying to kill your soldiers because an evil empire invaded their country and is killing their wives and children. Ever hear of a movie called Red Dawn?





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I still think Catholicism is the main target. they have the most followers and have the 2000 year unbroken history.

you cannot dismantle them with petty word games or FEMEN tactics.

people are naturally attracted to Christianity. most people believe in it voluntarily.

All conspiracy enthusiasists should really pay attention to the catholic angle.. once they fall.. it's all smooth sailing. But I don't think they will fall though. I think we are at the point where most poeple are FED up internallly with the psychological subversion.

I can guarantee that if a few major leaders showed up preaching pro-logos values.. MUCH of the population would make their true views known about the cultural marxism.

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(04-09-2013 03:19 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  the Christian evangelicals are praying for armaggedon. they are part of the problem too. British dispensionalist christianity

They're position on Israel-Palestine is pro-Jewish, anti-Christian.

Like the rest of the country. You would think that they would at least feel some sort of empathy for the Iraqi Mandean-Sabeans, their fellow gnostics. But no, all they care about are the Jews of the region.

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Oh are the christians you are talking about Gnostics?

that's a totally diff. strain than Catholicism.

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I posted last week about the Kurds gaining power as a counterweight to the Turks, they are like the Jews in a way a nomadic destabilizing factor in any country.

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(04-09-2013 03:27 PM)Hellfire Awaits Wrote:  Saddam Hussein was extremely tolerant toward Christians during his tenure. He did oppress the Kurds and the marsh Arabs, but only because they dared to challenge his rule. He ruthlessly suppressed the Shia majority for exactly the same reason.

Any objective, dispassionate observer of Iraq during this time period would have LAUGHED at the idea that Saddam would have made his bed with Islamist radicals. Really, allies with the same people who had been trying to destabilize his regime for decades? Terrorists who were funded largely by Saudi Arabia, a sworn enemy of the Ba'athist state? What a bunch of clowns.


It is impossible to exaggerate just how retarded the Bush administration acted during this time period. Bush had people in his cabinet who did not even know the difference between Sunni and Shi'ite. Donald Rumsfeld famously stated that invading Iraq would result in little opposition from the populace, because Iraq had no holy places, unlike Saudi Arabia. Oops, except Iraq houses Karbala, one of the HOLIEST places in Shia Islam. You think the locals won't get mad when a bunch of infidel soldiers defile it with their presence? Dipshits.

In 2006 Iraq reached a point where something like 99 out of 100 "insurgents" were local Iraqis. And of course, the usa required a new surge of troops to deal with the new "terrorist" menace. Yeah, you retards. The locals are trying to kill your soldiers because an evil empire invaded their country and is killing their wives and children. Ever hear of a movie called Red Dawn?





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The plan has been to advance Islamic extremism at the expense of Baathism and to eradicate Christianity in the region. Saddam supported the Assyrians, his right hand man Tariq Aziz is an Assyrian Christian. And he was hard on their traditional enemies and neighbors the fanatically anti-Christian Kurds, but necessarily so. The Kurds are not native to Mesopotamia and have been pushing their way into the ancient Iraqi lands for centuries and he knew, as a friend of the Christians and a student of Mesopotamian history, that this expansion had to be violently checked from time to time.

The Kurdish story in Iraq has been a simple story of village by village Christian genocide and Kurdification. All of the the cities, towns and villages in so-called Iraqi 'Kurdistan' have original Assyrian Aramaic or Akkadian names and cultural markers like ancient Nestorian churches and monasteries. The Kurds are recent comers and usurpers, and they have the recent experience of committing the unspeakable horror of the 1915 Assyrian genocide, or Seyfo where 500,000 Assyrian Christians were massacred by the Kurds across the borders in Turkey and Iran, their towns and villages completely Kurdified. What we are seeing in Northern Iraq today is the end of a long process of Christian genocide and Kurdish expansion, encouraged and abated by the Anglo powers.

Saddam will probably be remembered as the great Iraqi leader; a man that was able to hold together a vastly complex, polyglot nation that has famously been that way since the days of the Tower of Babel.

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Also don't forget how the Kurds oppressed the Armenian Christians.





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(04-09-2013 03:36 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  Oh are the christians you are talking about Gnostics?

that's a totally diff. strain than Catholicism.

I'm equating American Evangelical Christianity with gnosticism, and asking ,rhetorically, why they felt no sympathy for the plight of Iraq's gnostic Mandean-Sabeans who are the worlds last real gnostics and now in the aftermath of the war face extinction as a people. Yet they support the Jews unconditionally.

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oh yeah.. the american evangelicals are probably closer to gnostics/occultists.