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12-20-2018, 06:44 PM
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and the imperial war machine crew is fit to be tied Smile

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12-20-2018, 06:47 PM
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Some lovely Syrian girls taking in the holiday festivities in the real Syria this year...




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12-21-2018, 03:19 AM
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Brothers? You mean comrades, right?
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12-21-2018, 03:52 AM
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ISIS is closing up shop in Syria because US/Israel is turning their mercenaries on Iran.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/ho...-571533325

“Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.”
― Confucius
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12-21-2018, 09:35 AM
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(12-21-2018 03:19 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  



Brothers? You mean comrades, right?

OH fuck. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO....

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12-21-2018, 10:10 AM
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(12-21-2018 03:52 AM)jho Wrote:  ISIS is closing up shop in Syria because US/Israel is turning their mercenaries on Iran.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/ho...-571533325

Yeah, that's great. I mean, if get out of Syria and better relations with Russia were your only election issues in 2016 I'd say this is a pretty good day wouldn't you. Trump has literally delivered on the only stuff I ever cared about in the first place now.

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12-21-2018, 10:31 AM
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Interestingly, the US was building observation towers along the Turkish border last week and now they're getting out. It looks very much like the Turks will be invading Syro Mesopotamia to confront the Kurds to me, which is bad for Syria of course, but better than the status quo.
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12-21-2018, 10:41 AM
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https://twitter.com/iraqschristians/stat...0512041984
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12-21-2018, 10:47 AM
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Very interesting analysis of the situation.



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12-21-2018, 11:26 AM
Post: #2905
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Quote:Defense Secretary Mattis Resigns, Citing Differences With Trump

Mattis will leave office in February

https://news.antiwar.com/2018/12/20/defe...ith-trump/

US Secretary of Defense James Mattis has submitted a letter of resignation to President Trump on Thursday, citing differences on myriad issues, and saying he believes Trump deserves a Secretary of Defense “whose views are better aligned with yours.”

Mattis was one of Trump’s first cabinet picks, and long-serving despite reports of mounting differences with Trump. It’s not clear exactly why he is resigning just now, though a lot of media outlets are speculating it is related to the end of the Syria War.

President Trump announced earlier in the day on Twitter, before Mattis’ letter went public, that he would be “retiring, with distinction, at the end of February.” Trump has yet to name a successor, but says he will do so shortly.

Thee is no early indication of who this next defense secretary might be, and while Mattis emphasized the need to confront Russia and China and the value of NATO in his letter, it’s not clear what Trump’s priority would be that differs from Mattis’ own view.
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12-21-2018, 11:33 AM
Post: #2906
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Quote:US to Withdraw From Syria-Turkey Border Outposts to Buy Time for Pullout

Officials hope to slow Turkey's invasion of Kurdish territory

https://news.antiwar.com/2018/12/19/us-t...r-pullout/

Having just built multiple observation posts in Syria, along the Turkey border, US officials say the military is going to quickly withdraw from them, as part of an effort to buy some time with Turkey as they complete a full US pullout from Syria.

The observation posts were presented by the Pentagon as a confidence-builder for Turkey, to give them warning if any Kurdish forces got too close to the border. Turkey’s President Erdogan was deeply critical of the move, saying the US was really observing the Turkish military to prevent them attacking the Kurds.

Ironically, ditching the posts is intended to prevent the exact same thing, with hopes that this will please Erdogan, and that the US will be able to keep Erdogan talking, and not invading, for awhile. At least long enough to get the US troops out of Syria.

Though it is clearly the preference of the US not to have its Kurdish allies overrun outright by the Turkish military, it’s clearly going to be more palatable if the US doesn’t have 2,000 troops in the middle of it. This oft-threatened Turkish invasion is likely a driving reason for President Trump, who just spoke with Erdogan a couple of days ago, wanting to withdraw.
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12-21-2018, 12:14 PM
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Quote:The video from President #Trump @realDonaldTrump signing into law H.R. 390: Iraq & Syria Genocide Relief & Accountability Act. The law provides relief to persecuted Iraqi/Syrian Christians & Yazidis, & help to hold ISIS accountable for their atrocities.

https://twitter.com/iraqschristians/stat...4206557185

Quote:Contrary to false reports, Syrian Christians are glad US forces will leave Syria as they want their country united. Also, Syrian Christians do not support the #SDF-#YPG Marxist separatist group. SDF-YPG has been persecuting Christians in Northeast Syria.

https://twitter.com/iraqschristians/stat...0512041984

Quote:I am happy to see a President who can declare victory and bring our troops out of a war. It’s been a long time since that has happened.

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1075413915180384256
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12-21-2018, 12:42 PM
Post: #2908
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What may have precipitated the troop pullout:

Quote:INTELBRIEF: TURKEY WARNS THE U.S. IT WILL LAUNCH CROSS-BORDER STRIKES INTO SYRIA

Posted on December 18, 2018

http://thesoufancenter.org/intelbrief-tu...nto-syria/

Bottom Line Up Front

The U.S. will likely maintain an enduring military presence in Syria for years, in an extremely complex operating environment.
Washington sees its force posture as necessary to check the expansion of Iranian influence, yet others, like Turkey, Russia, and the Assad regime, view the situation quite differently.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has threatened a military strike against U.S.-backed Syrian Kurdish rebels in northern Syria.
Ankara strongly objects to American support of a Kurdish presence along its border, a threat the Turks interpret as a more serious long-term challenge to stability than the so-called Islamic State.
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On December 12, Turkish President Erdogan stated, in unequivocal terms, ‘it is clear that the purpose of U.S. observation points in Syria is not to protect our country from terrorists, but protect terrorists from Turkey.’ He was referring to U.S. outposts along the border that the U.S. has said are to ‘warn’ Turkey of possible terrorist attacks emanating from Syria. Ankara, which accuses the U.S. of supporting terrorism by supporting the Kurds, dismisses the U.S. rationale that the outposts are about addressing Turkish ‘security concerns’ and it is likely Turkey will conduct some attack despite U.S. pressure to stand down. Far from being a defined military campaign to ‘defeat’ the so-called Islamic State, the U.S. is now embarking on a sustained military presence in Syria that is not justified under the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF). The campaign is shifting from a counter-IS campaign to one aimed at limiting Iranian influence. All of this is taking place against a backdrop with limited congressional oversight or public debate over the merits of a prolonged American military mission in Syria.

As reported most recently in the Washington Post, the U.S. is operating in northeast Syria with a light footprint, but with major geopolitical interests at stake. The U.S. has substantially and directly supported a coalition known as the Syrian Defense Forces (SDF), dominated by Syrian Kurdish elements. These Kurdish forces, the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), have been Washington’s most reliable ally on the ground and an effective fighting force against the Islamic State. The counter-IS fight is now winding down in northeastern Syria as the Islamic State’s territory is reduced to less than one percent of what it was at its peak, mostly centered around the Hajin pocket and other towns and villages in the Central Euphrates River valley.

The Kurds are seizing the opportunity to settle in as a de facto governing force, a major concern for Erdogan. Turkey views a sizable Kurdish presence along its southern border as a threat far greater than any posed by the Islamic State. The U.S. finds itself seeking to maintain a long-term presence in northeastern Syria where its strongest local support is the stated main enemy of Turkey. The Assad regime—along with its Russian and Iranian supporters—is directly opposed to any continued U.S. presence in Syria. Essentially, the U.S. finds itself in a situation far more complicated than Afghanistan with less capability and little regional support: fighting terrorists and insurgents without a local government with whom to engage in sustained security cooperation and seeking to counter Iranian influence that enjoys the direct support of the ruling regime and its powerful allies. For the U.S., the issue is worse than a lack of regional support; Turkey is openly threatening to conduct cross border attacks against YPG positions in Syria.

Just recently, the situation escalated to a point where a direct phone call between Erdogan and President Trump was arranged, perhaps as a confidence building measure to avoid direct conflict between two NATO members. The prospect of the U.S. being militarily involved in Syria, caught in the middle of one of the most complex conflicts in recent memory, with shifting objectives and an ambiguous endgame, has been met with congressional indifference and public apathy. While press coverage of the ‘forever war’ in Afghanistan periodically spikes amid U.S. personnel losses or significant attacks against Afghan civilians and security forces, the emergence of another long-term military commitment with scant prospects of success is happening in Syria. Nevertheless, recent developments in Syria have been largely absent from public debate or congressional scrutiny, raising the prospects of mission creep in yet another theatre in the Middle East.
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12-21-2018, 04:19 PM
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12-21-2018, 05:28 PM
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How long has the middle East been at war with itself and why? Is it perhaps because of Islam? Let the Muslims kill each other imo.
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