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Jewish Converts to Christianity. A list.
02-01-2015, 09:46 PM
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Jewish Converts to Christianity. A list.
The Apostle Paul - early Christian leader and author of many New Testament epistles.[2]
Abd-al-Masih (martyr) - a convert martyred for his faith [3]
Michael Solomon Alexander - first Anglican Bishop of Jerusalem[4]
Petrus Alphonsi - physician in ordinary to King Alfonso VI of Castile[5]
Juan Alfonso de Baena - medieval Castilian troubadour[6]
Lovisa Augusti- opera singer and actress.[7]
Eduard Bendemann - German painter[8]
Sir Julius Benedict - English composer[8]
Leo de Benedicto Christiano - medieval financier[9]
Theodor Benfey - German philologist[8]
David Berkowitz - American serial killer [10]
Michael Bernays - German professor of literature[8]
Gottfried Bernhardy - German philologist and literary historian[8]
Ludwig Börne - German political writer and satirist[8]
John Braham - English tenor opera star[8]
Moritz Wilhelm August Breidenbach - German jurist[8]
Julius Friedrich Cohnheim - German pathologist[8]
Isaac da Costa - Dutch language poet[8]
Abraham Capadose - Dutch physician and writer; friend of Isaac da Costa[8]
Carl Paul Caspari - Norwegian theologian[8]
Jehuda Cresques - Catalan cartographer[11]
Ferdinand David - German virtuoso violinist and composer[8]
Ludwig Dessoir - German actor[8]
Benjamin Disraeli - British Prime Minister and leader of the Conservative Party in the 19th century[12]
Alfred Döblin - German expressionist novelist[13]
Bob Dylan - popular musician who converted to Christianity in 1979.[14] He later began studying with Chabad, a branch of Hasidic Judaism,[15] though his current religious affiliation is uncertain. See also information on Dylan's Conversion to Christianity, Born-again period and Religious beliefs.
Alfred Edersheim - Biblical scholar[8]
Rachel Felix - French-Swiss theatre actress[8]
Albert Einstein - physicst and scientist
Pero Ferrús - Castilian poet[16]
Bobby Fischer - chess grandmaster
Achille Fould - French financier and politician[8]
Jacob Frank - 18th century Jewish reformer[17]
The Reverend Canon Dr Giles Fraser - Christian minister and former Canon Chancellor of St Paul's Cathedral
Heinrich von Friedberg - German jurist and statesman[18]
Ludwig Friedländer - German philologist[8]
Eduard Gans - German philosopher and jurist, exponent of the conservative Right Hegelians[19]
Hermann Mayer Salomon Goldschmidt - German astronomer and painter[8]
Fritz Haber - German chemist and Nobel laureate[20]
Heinrich Heine - German writer[8]
Friedrich Gustav Jakob Henle - German physician, pathologist and anatomist[8]
Jorge Isaacs - Colombian writer, politician and soldier[21]
Heinrich Jacoby - German educator[8]
Georg Jellinek - German legal philosopher[22]
Paul S. L. Johnson - American scholar and pastor[23]
David Kalisch - German playwright and humorist[8]
Felix Philipp Kanitz - Austro-Hungarian naturalist, geographer, ethnographer, archaeologist and author of travel notes[24]
Andrew Klavan - filmmaker and novelist [25]
Leopold Kronecker - German mathematician and logician[8]
Hermann Lebert - German physician[8]
Karl Lehrs - German classical scholar[26]
Osip Mikhailovich Lerner - 19th century Russian intellectual and lawyer[27]
Fanny Lewald - German author[8]
Tsaritsa Theodora of Bulgaria - Wife of tsar Ivan Alexander, tsaritsa in the late Second Bulgarian Empire
Jean-Marie Lustiger- Cardinal, former Archbishop of Paris [28]
Heinrich Gustav Magnus - German chemist and physicist[8]
Ludwig Immanuel Magnus - German mathematician[8]
Gustav Mahler - Composer (1860–1911)[29]
Hugh Montefiore - Anglican Bishop of Birmingham from 1977 to 1987
Robert Moses - politician and "master builder" of 20th century New York City
Felix Mendelssohn - composer (1809–1847)[8]
Karl Friedrich Neumann - German orientalist[8]
Robert Novak - Raised in secular Jewish culture,[30] he converted to Catholicism in May 1998 after his prolific career as a journalist, columnist, and political commentator.[31]
Harry Frederick Oppenheimer - South African businessman[32]
Francis Palgrave - English historian[8]
Corey Pavin - PGA golfer[33]
Johannes Pfefferkorn - German theologian and writer[8]
Friedrich Adolf Philippi - German Lutheran theologian[8]
Howard Phillips - Prominent American conservative leader and former presidential candidate
Lorenzo Da Ponte - Italian librettist[8]
Harry Reems - Adult film actor.[34]
David Ricardo - English political economist[8]
Gillian Rose - British philosopher and sociologist[35]
Moishe Rosen — Founder of Jews for Jesus[36]
Anton Rubinstein — Russian pianist, composer, and conductor[8]
Joseph Schereschewsky — Episcopal Bishop of Shanghai, founder of Saint John's University, Shanghai, bible translator[37]
Eduard von Simson — German jurist and politician[8]
Dan Spitz - lead guitarist of the heavy metal band Anthrax[38]
Friedrich Julius Stahl — Prussian jurist and conservative thinker[8]
Edith Stein - Nun, martyr, saint.[39]
Siegbert Tarrasch — Challenger for the World Chess Championship [40]
Mordechai Vanunu — considered a whistle-blower on Israel's nuclear programme who was subsequently kidnapped, tried and imprisoned by Israel.[41]
Rahel Varnhagen (born Rahel Levin) - writer and saloniste[42]
Simone Weil — French philosopher and activist [43]
Otto Weininger — Austrian philosopher[44]
Joseph Wolff — German missionary[8]
Sir Moses Ximenes — 18th century English merchant[8]
David Levy Yulee - United States Senator from Florida[45]
Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. - American actor[46][47][48]
Israel Zolli - former Chief Rabbi of Rome[49]
Shia LaBeouf - Hollywood actor who decided to leave Judaism and become a Christian while playing a Christian character in the movie Fury (2014).[50][51] He had previously contributed to a book entitled I am Jewish in 2004.[52]

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02-01-2015, 09:48 PM
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RE: Jewish Converts to Christianity. A list.
In 1940 Time magazine quoted Einstein lauding the Catholic Church for its role in opposing the Nazis:

Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.

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Smart people just know. You look at the RCC objectively.. very amazing.

They are the real liberals.
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02-01-2015, 10:00 PM
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QUESTION: Our son has been on a spiritual search for several years but he has just dropped a bombshell. He wants to convert to Christianity and we don’t know how to persuade him not to.

Rabbi Naftali Brawer
Naftali Brawer is rabbi at Borehamwood and Elstree United Synagogue.

It must be extremely painful to learn that your son wants to exchange his faith for Christianity. However, all is not lost.
The story is told of a bright young Russian melamed (school teacher) from Kherson, who shocked his family by converting to Eastern Orthodoxy. Years later he became a famous professor of Semitic languages at the University of St Petersburg. When he was asked if he converted out of conviction or expediency, he replied: “Out of conviction, of course. I was convinced that it would be better to be a famous professor of Semitic languages in St Petersburg than a poor forgotten melamed in Kherson.”
Shameful as the story is, it highlights a certain truth; that while it was rare for a Jew to exchange his faith for another, it was even rarer for him to do so out of a sense of genuine conviction.
It would be much easier understanding your son if he chose to abandon faith altogether. However, the idea of exchanging Judaism for Christianity is difficult to grasp in our predominantly secular society, where there are no obvious social or economic benefits to believing in Christ.
I suspect that your son has little knowledge of Judaism and even less knowledge of Christianity.
In 1769, a young Swiss theologian named Johann Kaspar Lavater challenged the Jewish philosopher Moses Mendelssohn to “do what wisdom, the love of truth and honesty must bid him” and renounce his faith for Christianity. Mendelssohn’s purported response was that if the foundations of his house are faulty, he could certainly not be expected to move his family up on to the second storey.
Explain to your son that Judaism is the oldest monotheistic religion and it is on the foundations of Judaism that Christianity rests. If there are theological flaws with the foundation, then the whole structure must be unsound.
Challenge your son to at least make an informed choice before throwing away his birthright. Encourage him to begin living as an observant Jew; praying daily, keeping the Shabbat and studying Torah. Most importantly, find him an intelligent and sensitive mentor whom he can discuss his questions with. There are no guarantees, but I am fairly confident that the more he delves into his own rich faith, the less need he will have to search for spirituality elsewhere.
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(02-01-2015 09:48 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  In 1940 Time magazine quoted Einstein lauding the Catholic Church for its role in opposing the Nazis:

Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.

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Smart people just know. You look at the RCC objectively.. very amazing.

They are the real liberals.

I was raised in the church and come from generations of Irish Catholics for hundreds of years on my father's side & German catholics on my mother's. Unlike them, am the first "objective" one all these hundreds of years later. I'm ground zero for objectivity amongst my clans. I'm the first to ever ask questions about our church, our priests, church leadership, church history and church doctrine. No one had ever done that before. Not a one, seriously. They, like me, were taught to have blind faith never question anything, just follow along and do what you're told or you will pay some day. Where's the objectivity in that?

Things like this below are woven into the fiber of the church back to it's inception. Sorry, but it's true. I don't think Jesus would be very happy about the organization using his name and likeness doing a whole lot of the things it has done. The actions over much of the churches history have little to do with what the carpenters son brought to mankind. The church is not Jesus. The church is not God. I feel one does not need the Roman Catholic Church to have a spiritual relationship with either.

I don't want to get into a big debate about this. I'm just not on the same page but still need to get my perspective out here.


Quote:"Ratlines" - The Roman Catholic Churches' Complicity In Nazi Leader's Escape To South America, America, Canada & more

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_%2...termath%29

Ratlines were a system of escape routes for Nazis and other fascists fleeing Europe at the end of World War II. These escape routes mainly led toward havens in South America, particularly Argentina, Paraguay, Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, and Bolivia. Other destinations included the United States, Great Britain, Canada and the Middle East. There were two primary routes: the first went from Germany to Spain, then Argentina; the second from Germany to Rome to Genoa, then South America; the two routes "developed independently" but eventually came together to collaborate.[1]

One ratline, made famous by the Frederick Forsyth thriller The Odessa File, was run by the ODESSA (Organisation der ehemaligen SS-Angehörigen; "Organization of Former SS-Members") network organized by Otto Skorzeny.

Early Spanish ratlines

The origins of the first ratlines are connected to various developments in Vatican-Argentine relations before and during World War II.[2] As early as 1942, Monsignor Luigi Maglione contacted Ambassador Llobet, inquiring as to the "willingness of the government of the Argentine Republic to apply its immigration law generously, in order to encourage at the opportune moment European Catholic immigrants to seek the necessary land and capital in our country".[3] Afterwards, a German priest, Anton Weber, the head of the Rome-based Society of Saint Raphael, traveled to Portugal, continuing to Argentina, to lay the groundwork for future Catholic immigration; this was to be a route which fascist exiles would exploit - without the knowledge of the Catholic Church.[3] According to historian Michael Phayer, "this was the innocent origin of what would become the Vatican ratline".[3]

Spain, not Rome, was the "first center of ratline activity that facilitated the escape of Nazi fascists", although the exodus itself was planned within the Vatican.[4] Charles Lescat, a French member of Action Française (an organization suppressed by Pius XI and rehabilitated by Pius XII), and Pierre Daye, a Belgian with contacts in the Spanish government, were among the primary organizers.[5] Lescat and Daye were the first able to flee Europe, with the help of Argentine cardinal Antonio Caggiano.[5]

By 1946, there were probably hundreds of war criminals in Spain, and thousands of former Nazis and fascists.[6] According to US Secretary of State James F. Byrnes, Vatican cooperation in turning over asylum-seekers was "negligible".[6] According to Phayer, Pius XII "preferred to see fascist war criminals on board ships sailing to the New World rather than seeing them rotting in POW camps in zonal Germany".[7] Unlike the Vatican emigration operation in Italy, centered on Vatican City, the ratlines of Spain, although "fostered by the Vatican" were relatively independent of the hierarchy of the Vatican Emigration Bureau.[8]

Roman Ratlines

Early efforts—Bishop Hudal

Bishop Alois Hudal was rector of the Pontificio Istituto Teutonico Santa Maria dell'Anima in Rome, a seminary for Austrian and German priests, and "Spiritual Director of the German People resident in Italy".[9] After the end of the war in Italy, Hudal became active in ministering to German-speaking prisoners of war and internees then held in camps throughout Italy. In December 1944 the Vatican Secretariat of State received permission to appoint a representative to "visit the German-speaking civil internees in Italy", a job assigned to Hudal.

Hudal used this position to aid the escape of wanted Nazi war criminals, including Franz Stangl, commanding officer of Treblinka, Gustav Wagner, commanding officer of Sobibor, Alois Brunner, responsible for the Drancy internment camp near Paris and in charge of deportations in Slovakia to German concentration camps, and Adolf Eichmann[10]— a fact about which he was later unashamedly open. Some of these wanted men were being held in internment camps: generally without identity papers, they would be enrolled in camp registers under false names. Other Nazis were in hiding in Italy, and sought Hudal out as his role in assisting escapes became known on the Nazi grapevine.[11]:289

In his memoirs Hudal said of his actions "I thank God that He [allowed me] to visit and comfort many victims in their prisons and concentration camps and to help them escape with false identity papers." [12] He explained that in his eyes:

"The Allies' War against Germany was not a crusade, but the rivalry of economic complexes for whose victory they had been fighting. This so-called business ... used catchwords like democracy, race, religious liberty and Christianity as a bait for the masses. All these experiences were the reason why I felt duty bound after 1945 to devote my whole charitable work mainly to former National Socialists and Fascists, especially to so-called 'war criminals'."

According to Mark Aarons and John Loftus in their book Unholy Trinity,[13] Hudal was the first Catholic priest to dedicate himself to establishing escape routes. Aarons and Loftus claim that Hudal provided the objects of his charity with money to help them escape, and more importantly with false papers including identity documents issued by the Vatican Refugee Organisation (Commissione Pontificia d'Assistenza).

These Vatican papers were not full passports, and not in themselves enough to gain passage overseas. They were, rather, the first stop in a paper trail—they could be used to obtain a displaced person passport from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), which in turn could be used to apply for visas. In theory the ICRC would perform background checks on passport applicants, but in practice the word of a priest or particularly a bishop would be good enough. According to statements collected by Gitta Sereny from a senior official of the Rome branch of the ICRC,[11]:316–17 Hudal could also use his position as a bishop to request papers from the ICRC "made out according to his specifications". Sereny's sources also revealed an active illicit trade in stolen and forged ICRC papers in Rome at this time.

According to declassified US intelligence reports, Hudal was not the only priest helping Nazi escapees at this time. In the "La Vista report" declassified in 1984, Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC) operative Vincent La Vista told how he had easily arranged for two bogus Hungarian refugees to get false ICRC documents with the help of a letter from a Father Joseph Gallov. Gallov, who ran a Vatican-sponsored charity for Hungarian refugees, asked no questions and wrote a letter to his "personal contact in the International Red Cross, who then issued the passports".[14]
The San Girolamo ratline

According to Aarons and Loftus, Hudal's private operation was small scale compared to what came later. The major Roman ratline was operated by a small, but influential network of Croatian priests, members of the Franciscan order, led by Father Krunoslav Draganović. Draganović organized a highly sophisticated chain with headquarters at the San Girolamo degli Illirici Seminary College in Rome, but with links from Austria to the final embarcation point in the port of Genoa. The ratline initially focused on aiding members of the Croatian Ustashe movement, most notably the Croat wartime dictator Ante Pavelić.[15]

Priests active in the chain included: Fr. Vilim Cecelja, former Deputy Military Vicar to the Ustashe, based in Austria where many Ustashe and Nazi refugees remained in hiding; Fr. Dragutin Kamber, based at San Girolamo; Fr. Dominik Mandić, an official Vatican representative at San Girolamo and also "General Economist" or treasurer of the Franciscan order - who used this position to put the Franciscan press at the ratline's disposal; and Monsignor Karlo Petranović, based in Genoa. Vilim would make contact with those hiding in Austria and help them across the border to Italy; Kamber, Mandić and Draganović would find them lodgings, often in the monastery itself, while they arranged documentation; finally Draganović would phone Petranović in Genoa with the number of required berths on ships leaving for South America (see below).

The operation of the Draganović ratline was an open secret among the intelligence and diplomatic communities in Rome. As early as August 1945, Allied commanders in Rome were asking questions about the use of San Girolamo as a "haven" for Ustashe.[16] A year later, a US State Department report of 12 July 1946 lists nine war criminals, including Albanians and Montenegrins as well as Croats, plus others "not actually sheltered in the COLLEGIUM ILLIRICUM [i.e., San Girolamo degli Illirici] but who otherwise enjoy Church support and protection."[17] The British envoy to the Holy See, Francis Osborne, asked Domenico Tardini, a high-ranking Vatican official, for a permission that would have allowed British military police to raid ex-territorial Vatican Institutions in Rome. Tardini declined and denied that the church sheltered war criminals.[citation needed]

In February 1947 CIC Special Agent Robert Clayton Mudd reported ten members of Pavelić's Ustasha cabinet living either in San Girolamo or in the Vatican itself. Mudd had infiltrated an agent into the monastery and confirmed that it was "honeycombed with cells of Ustashe operatives" guarded by "armed youths". Mudd also reported:

"It was further established that these Croats travel back and forth from the Vatican several times a week in a car with a chauffeur whose license plate bears the two initials CD, "Corpo Diplomatico". It issues forth from the Vatican and discharges its passengers inside the Monastery of San Geronimo. Subject to diplomatic immunity it is impossible to stop the car and discover who are its passengers."[18]

Mudd's conclusion was the following:

"DRAGANOVIC's sponsorship of these Croat Ustashes definitely links him up with the plan of the Vatican to shield these ex-Ustasha nationalists until such time as they are able to procure for them the proper documents to enable them to go to South America. The Vatican, undoubtedly banking on the strong anti-Communist feelings of these men, is endeavoring to infiltrate them into South America in any way possible to counteract the spread of Red doctrine. It has been reliably reported, for example that Dr. VRANCIC has already gone to South America and that Ante PAVELIC and General KREN are scheduled for an early departure to South America through Spain. All these operations are said to have been negotiated by DRAGANOVIC because of his influence in the Vatican."

The existence of Draganović's ratline has been supported by a highly respected historian of Vatican diplomacy, Fr. Robert Graham: "I've no doubt that Draganović was extremely active in syphoning off his Croatian Ustashe friends." Graham pointed out that Draganović, in running his 'ratline,' was not acting on behalf of the Vatican: "Just because he's a priest doesn't mean he represents the Vatican. It was his own operation."[19] At the same time, there were four occasions in which the Vatican did intervene on behalf of interned Ustasha prisoners. The Secretariat of State asked the U.K. and U.S. government to release Croatian POWs from British internment camps in Italy. The presence of some pro-Utashe Croatian clergy at this time is not surprising, but the Vatican itself officially condemned war crimes committed by the Utashe, as well as the Communists.

US intelligence involvement

If at first US intelligence officers had been mere observers of the Draganović ratline, this changed in the summer of 1947. A now declassified US Army intelligence report from 1950 sets out in detail the history of the people smuggling operation in the three years to follow.[20] According to the report, from this point on US forces themselves had begun to use Draganović's established network to evacuate its own "visitors". As the report put it, these were "visitors who had been in the custody of the 430th CIC and completely processed in accordance with current directives and requirements, and whose continued residence in Austria constituted a security threat as well as a source of possible embarrassment to the Commanding General of USFA, since the Soviet Command had become aware that their presence in US Zone of Austria and in some instances had requested the return of these persons to Soviet custody".[20]

These were suspected war criminals from areas occupied by the Red Army which the US was obliged to hand over for trial to the Soviets. The US reputedly was reluctant to do so, partly due to a belief[citation needed] that fair trial could hardly be expected in the USSR (see Operation Keelhaul), and at the same time, their desire to make use of Nazi scientists and other resources.[citation needed] The deal with Draganović involved getting the visitors to Rome: "Dragonovich [sic] handled all phases of the operation after the defectees arrived in Rome, such as the procurement of IRO Italian and South American documents, visas, stamps, arrangements for disposition, land or sea, and notification of resettlement committees in foreign lands".[20] United States intelligence used these methods in order to get important Nazi scientists and military strategists, to the extent they had not already been claimed by the Soviet Union, to their own centres of military science in the US. Many Nazi scientists were employed by the US, retrieved in Operation Paperclip.[citation needed]
The Argentine Connection

See also Juan Perón and the Jewish and German communities of Argentina

“ In Nuremberg at that time something was taking place that I personally considered a disgrace and an unfortunate lesson for the future of humanity. I became certain that the Argentine people also considered the Nuremberg process a disgrace, unworthy of the victors, who behaved as if they hadn't been victorious. Now we realize that they [the Allies] deserved to lose the war. (Argentine president Juan Perón on the Nuremberg Trials of Nazi war criminals.)[21] ”

In his 2002 book The Real Odessa[21] Argentine researcher Uki Goñi used new access to the country's archives to show that Argentine diplomats and intelligence officers had, on Perón's instructions, vigorously encouraged Nazi and Fascist war criminals to make their home in Argentina. According to Goñi, the Argentines not only collaborated with Draganović's ratline, they set up further ratlines of their own running through Scandinavia, Switzerland and Belgium.[citation needed]

According to Goñi, Argentina's first move into Nazi smuggling was in January 1946, when Argentine bishop Antonio Caggiano, bishop of Rosario and leader of the Argentine chapter of Catholic Action flew with Bishop Agustín Barrére to Rome where Caggiano was due to be anointed Cardinal. While in Rome the Argentine bishops met with French Cardinal Eugène Tisserant, where they passed on a message (recorded in Argentina's diplomatic archives) that "the Government of the Argentine Republic was willing to receive French persons, whose political attitude during the recent war would expose them, should they return to France, to harsh measures and private revenge". Over the spring of 1946 a number of French war criminals, fascists and Vichy officials made it from Italy to Argentina in the same way: they were issued passports by the Rome ICRC office; these were then stamped with Argentine tourist visas (the need for health certificates and return tickets was waived on Caggiano's recommendation). The first documented case of a French war criminal arriving in Buenos Aires was Emile Dewoitine — later sentenced in absentia to 20 years hard labour. He sailed first class on the same ship back with Cardinal Caggiano.[22]

Shortly after this Argentinian Nazi smuggling became institutionalised, according to Goñi, when Perón's new government of February 1946 appointed anthropologist Santiago Peralta as Immigration Commissioner and former Ribbentrop agent Ludwig Freude as his intelligence chief. Goñi argues that these two then set up a "rescue team" of secret service agents and immigration "advisors", many of whom were themselves European war-criminals, with Argentine citizenship and employment.[23]

ODESSA and the Gehlen Org

The Italian and Argentine ratlines have only been confirmed relatively recently,[when?] mainly due to research in recently declassified archives. Until the work of Aarons and Loftus, and of Uki Goñi (2002), a common view was that ex-Nazis themselves, organised in secret networks, ran the escape routes alone. The most famous such network is ODESSA (Organisation of former SS members), founded in 1946 according to Simon Wiesenthal, which included SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny and Sturmbannführer Alfred Naujocks and in Argentina, Rodolfo Freude. Alois Brunner, former commandant of Drancy internment camp near Paris, escaped to Rome, then Syria, by ODESSA. (Brunner was thought to be the highest-ranking Nazi war criminal still alive as of 2007). Persons claiming to represent ODESSA claimed responsibility in a note for the 9 July 1979 car bombing in France aimed at Nazi hunters Serge and Beate Klarsfeld.[citation needed] According to Paul Manning (1980), "eventually, over 10,000 former German military made it to South America along escape routes ODESSA and Deutsche Hilfsverein ..."[24]

Simon Wiesenthal, who advised Frederick Forsyth on the novel/filmscript The Odessa File which brought the name to public attention, also names other Nazi escape organisations such as Spinne ("Spider") and Sechsgestirn ("Constellation of Six"). Wiesenthal describes these immediately after the war as Nazi cells based in areas of Austria where many Nazis had retreated and gone to ground. Wiesenthal claimed that the ODESSA network shepherded escapees to the Catholic ratlines in Rome (although he mentions only Hudal, not Draganović); or through a second route through France and into Francoist Spain.[25]

ODESSA was supported by the Gehlen Org, which employed many former Nazi party members, and was headed by Reinhard Gehlen, a former German Army intelligence officer employed post-war by the CIA. The Gehlen Org became the nucleus of the BND German intelligence agency, directed by Reinhard Gehlen from its 1956 creation until 1968.[citation needed]
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02-02-2015, 12:26 AM
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Roy Masters
Dave Mustaine
Larry Kudlow

are a few others I can think of off the top of my head.
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02-02-2015, 02:59 AM
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Chris weidmans dad

Chris wears a cross and claims to be german but chris's hair when It grows out and the area he lives in are telltale signs
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02-02-2015, 03:16 AM
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Yeah. Chris is a probably a convert as well.

Quote:A devout Christian, Charlie Weidman raised his children in the Lutheran Church. Chris Weidman has retained his strong Christian faith, though he now worships at a nondenominational church in his native Long Island, N.Y.
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02-02-2015, 03:23 AM
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Interesting vid. Orthodox jew converted to Christianity.
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02-02-2015, 03:24 AM
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Quote:IN SHORT... Many people -- some but not all Christians, and some Jews as well -- erroneously believe that just as one can be Black and Christian, just as one can be Oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. This is not true. The Jews are not a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. Genetics might indicate that ones ancestors were Jews, but that does not, in fact, make one a Jew. Even if all, or some, of the genetic code in a child proved to be of Jewish origin, that would not make the child a Jew. Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person's mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith and wishes to identify solely as a Jew, then that person is considered fully Jewish. In addition, a convert to Judaism is fully Jewish. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race (for example one cannot convert to become an Asian or an African-American), one can convert to become a Jew. If someone who is Asian or African-American converts to Judaism, that person obviously remains an Asian or an African-American, and at the same time is a Jew. However, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.
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Quote:In 1993 the Supreme Court of Israel, in a case involving a couple affiliated with Jews for Jesus, ruled that Jews who adhere to Christian beliefs are regarded by Israeli law as "members of a different faith," and are not eligible for the automatic citizenship that Israel grants Jews. This is done not to try to change Jewish Law, but to preserve the Jewish character of the State of Israel – i.e., that allowing in people whose sole mission is to get Jews to become Christians is inimical to one of the core ethics of the country (to be a haven for Jews; see Israeli Declaration of Independence). In its summary of the ruling, the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that the belief that Jesus is the Messiah "cannot be reconciled with Judaism" and "marks the clear separation between Judaism and Christianity."
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02-02-2015, 03:36 AM
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This one is probably my favorite.......Jesus Christ. Good dude. Megatherium can confirm this having met him on a couple occasions.
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02-02-2015, 03:38 AM
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some of these are bullshit.

Einstein, Shia Labeouf etc.

Can find nothing about Einstein converting.

Shia hasn't been formally baptized either.
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02-02-2015, 03:39 AM
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RE: Jewish Converts to Christianity. A list.
(02-02-2015 03:38 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  some of these are bullshit.

Einstein, Shia Labeouf etc.

Can find nothing about Einstein converting.

Shia hasn't been formally baptized either.

doesn't really mater iMo. The expression "you can take the kid out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of the kid" is applicable here.
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02-02-2015, 03:41 AM
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RE: Jewish Converts to Christianity. A list.
Jacob Frank is clearly BS. The guy was into "sin for salvation"

very sloppy list, but a good starting point.
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