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Have Some Modern Magicians Sold Their Souls To Demons?
01-19-2015, 03:22 AM
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it's still camera tricks. I'd like to see this crap live.

YIF got busted big time in the vid I just posted.
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01-19-2015, 03:29 AM
Post: #32
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As Masato Toys mentioned, some of these guys come right out with it regarding where their power derives. Why share the limelight? Just as the greatest guitar players of all-time attribute their music to entities from the supernatural, there is something more than hoax going on here.

At least SOME of the time.
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01-19-2015, 03:36 AM
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(01-19-2015 03:22 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  it's still camera tricks. I'd like to see this crap live.

YIF got busted big time in the vid I just posted.

Because YIF got busted, doesn't discredit the whole notion.

How does Mandel's mind get read in the above vid? Or GSP's in the other I referenced? There are tons of vids of celebrities getting "tricked" this way. Are they ALL in on it? Seems someone would spill the beans. Where is the incentive not to?

I agree, though, that being there live for some of these would dispel the notion that they are all in on it.

I guess it depends on your world view to a large extent. Do you believe in the supernatural? If not, it's much easier to discount all of it. If a supernatural realm exists, why is impossible that people have been "tapping into it" for ages?
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01-19-2015, 03:37 AM
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01-19-2015, 03:38 AM
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@ around 7:10 of that there is old footage of a similar trick Blaine does poking a stick through his arm

No blood, apparently no pain

Who is that dude with Blaine for that trick? Looks like Peirs Morgan ;lol

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01-19-2015, 03:44 AM
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What I found interesting so far is that the guys poking and stabbing themselves correlates with something I remember. In the ancient world, you could only kill a demon possessed man by completely removing his head.
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01-19-2015, 03:53 AM
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Just another admission...
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01-19-2015, 04:05 AM
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vote up Fugazi
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01-19-2015, 04:06 AM
Post: #39
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it's all fake folks.

note, I want this stuff to be real.. but I have to call it out.

i believe every one can have an explanation.

keep in mind these people are using CGI and camera editing tricks.
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01-19-2015, 04:14 AM
Post: #40
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i believe some of these magicians are pushing this demonic angle to make it seem like they have real magical powers.

it makes them larger than life, even if they are on the "evil" side.

if sorcery was real the power would not be in the hands of TV hucksters and glorified PUA conmen.

Remember, Satan is the father of LIES... and that includes his lame magic tricks.
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01-19-2015, 04:14 AM
Post: #41
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very interesting thread though Fugazi.

If you just watch these vids you can easily get amazed, but dig around.. people have exposed this stuff.
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01-19-2015, 04:15 AM (This post was last modified: 01-19-2015 04:16 AM by Masato Toys.)
Post: #42
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Jada Smith vid not convincing to prove fakery imo

There were a bunch of Cris Angel vids I remember that much more clearly showed how some of his better illusions were totally faked, with hired actors to pretend to gawk in amazement

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01-19-2015, 04:16 AM
Post: #43
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I'm not sure how you can declare it all fake by the revelation that some of them are,in fact, just trickery.

As noted in one of the vids, it's standard procedure to mix the two so as to not make it too obvious. The whole notion behind the occult is that it remains a secret to all but a few. Trying to suggest that all of these claims by musicians, magicians, and even the satanic rituals performed by the world's most influential leaders are just the result of their active imaginations is quite a stretch.
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01-19-2015, 04:18 AM (This post was last modified: 01-19-2015 04:19 AM by Masato Toys.)
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We have to appreciate the art of an illusionist too imo. Its kind of silly call them out as 'fake' in a negative way. They are performers and work hard at their craft.

I'm not saying spirits are never part of things, but most imo are just clever people excited about the creation of good illusions. Many are ingeniously crafted, practised for many many hours to perfection, etc. I really admire this

The only thing I abhor is if/when they use camera fakery and paid actors for 'street magic'.

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01-19-2015, 04:22 AM
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Yeah, this is an interesting topic and I am not claiming that most (or even some) of these guys are sorcerers. But because I do believe it possible, it's fascinating to dissect some of the more baffling tricks. If what the guy from America's Got Talent said is true, you can't always rely on the entity to be there for you when you perform. So, it would make sense to have a back up plan.
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