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God Isn't a Magician - Pope Francis
10-29-2014, 04:46 PM
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God Isn't a Magician - Pope Francis
Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are right and God isn't 'a magician with a magic wand'



The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.
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Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.

He added: “He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.

“The Big Bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.

“Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

The Catholic Church has long had a reputation for being anti-science – most famously when Galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his “heretic” theory that the Earth revolved around the Sun.

But Pope Francis’s comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of Pope Pius XII, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the Big Bang theory. In 1996, John Paul II went further and suggested evolution was “more than a hypothesis” and “effectively proven fact”.

Yet more recently, Benedict XVI and his close advisors have apparently endorsed the idea that intelligent design underpins evolution – the idea that natural selection on its own is insufficient to explain the complexity of the world. In 2005, his close associate Cardinal Schoenborn wrote an article saying “evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true, but evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense – an unguided, unplanned process – is not”.

Giovanni Bignami, a professor and president of Italy’s National Institute for Astrophysics, told the Italian news agency Adnkronos: “The pope’s statement is significant. We are the direct descendents from the Big Bang that created the universe. Evolution came from creation.”

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10-29-2014, 05:25 PM
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John Paul II had similar positions, he argued in favor of evolution, supported the Big Bang theory.
The theory that the universe we live in is a result of a single infinitely dense point rapidly expanding is one born from the mind of a Jesuit in the first place.
For all their kid fucking, mystical practices of the inner church,the RCC is the most scientifically progressive of the major flavors Christianity or any other major religion for that matter.
It is reflected in the RCC interpretation of the Bible, the church says that their can not be two truths so of course the man made Bible is open for interpretation.
Rather enlightened when compared to many other protestant modes of thinking.
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10-29-2014, 09:19 PM
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Catholics discovered the theory of evolution (LaMarck) and the church itself singularly discovered the big bang theory (Lemaitre)

Catholicism is not a delusional religion for the most part.

however I feel Francis is pushing a secular agenda with this.
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10-29-2014, 09:20 PM
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Quote:The Catholic Church has long had a reputation for being anti-science

Uhh. catholic friar Roger Bacon basically invented the scientific method.

Catholicism created modern science as we know it.
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10-30-2014, 09:29 PM
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GOD the SUPREME INTELLIGENCE gave humans the WORD. The WORD gave humans LANGUAGE. It was the FIRST TOOL to learn and use.

GOD the SUPREME INTELLIGENCE gave humans LIGHT. That LIGHT gave humans TECHNOLOGY. Scientists recently figured out a way to BEND the SPACE-TIME CONTINUUM. And the NEW QUANTUM COMPUTERS are using ATOMS.

Ancient History can offer insight into "The Secret Teachings" which is more than a map for Inner Self-Realization. Just ask, "Doctor Science". GOD "the ALIEN" gave the CUBE to Moses so that in the FUTURE humans would be educated enough to read NEW INSTRUCTIONS building A NEW WORLD.

GOD the SUPREME INTELLIGENCE gave humans raw resources and told them to "Go For It!" Humans can ride their bicycles without training wheels anymore.

Planet Earth is known as DREAMLAND. Your 5 senses cannot see what is going on around you. That information is BLOCKED. President Obama just recently appeared in front of reporters at the White House speaking about military air support in Iraq and nobody realized he was a HOLOGRAPHIC INSERT looking very real.

NANO-MIND CONTROL TECHNOLOGY does exist. NANO-DUST can be put in water, food, and the air you breathe. Now there's a COMPUTER PROGRAMMER inside your head. GLOBAL SATELLITES send a signal to your cellphone, TV, computer, Sirius Radio, and a host of other sneaky technology. Did you really see a plane hit the TWIN TOWERS? Can the Pentagon control the minds of over 7 million people in New York City making them think they saw something? The answer is yes.

Try and look 50 years into the future and tell me what you see in terms of technology? Guess what Boy's and Girl's? We're already there. I think SYSTEM FAILURE is approaching. It could happen "In the Blink of an Eye". The "End of Days" Reality Script has been running since the events of 9/11. Bin Laden is Hannibal. Elvis may have exited the building but Hannibal Lector was seen eating a bowl of ice cream. Mystery of Mystery. Seventy Seven Sunset Strip. I still have Cookies Comb.
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10-30-2014, 09:54 PM
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Horus knows.
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10-31-2014, 12:16 AM
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Yeah man, awesome post.

come for the calo, stay for the yoshida brotha
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10-31-2014, 08:35 AM
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The THEORY of Evolution is a lie just like the the big bang THEORY has been disproved by the LAWS of thermodynamics.
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10-31-2014, 09:16 AM
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(10-31-2014 08:35 AM)PUBLICnoose Wrote:  The THEORY of Evolution is a lie just like the the big bang THEORY has been disproved by the LAWS of thermodynamics.

The LAWS of thermodynamics break down in some models so what ?
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10-31-2014, 09:41 AM
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All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. ~2 Timothy 3: 16-17~

"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free"
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11-01-2014, 01:38 AM
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Could God make a rock so big and heavy that He couldn't move it?

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11-01-2014, 05:39 AM
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this pope is just ridiculous.

the RCC is feeling more and more like protestantism.

Just waiting until they hold christian rock and rap concerts at St. Peter's Square.

Also waiting for Francis to use Nacho Chips dipped in Cheese Whiz as matter for the eucharist.
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