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Ke$ha Wakes From Her Spell After 10 Years Of Torture & Programming
10-15-2014, 12:18 PM
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Quote:Last year, Kesha's fans started a petition to free her from her contract with Dr. Luke, claiming he was "controlling [her] like a puppet." "I feel like my fans are really protective of me," she told Rolling Stone last October. "They just want to see me grow as an artist, which I agree with. Hopefully in the future, I'll be in a position where I can put out a ballad or a more vulnerable song."

When asked if she had any creative control, she said, "not really." "What's been put out as singles have just perpetuated a particular image that may or may not be entirely accurate," she said. "I'd like to show the world other sides of my personality. I don't want to just continue putting out the same song and becoming a parody of myself. I have so much more to offer than that and I can't wait [until] the world really gets to hear that on the radio."



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behind all the feminist and male hating theatrics.. it's always a dude engineering this. people have to wake up.

Kesha actually wants to do sappy love ballads but I htink they want to continue to use her as a feminist sex vixen.

all this feminist media stuff is being produced by DUDES. Girls still dont' have power.
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10-15-2014, 12:24 PM
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what people call "MK ULTRA" programming is just what people have been doing to their underlings for years.

they do this in the military too. they break you down as a person and rebuild you back up.

they psychologically abuse you to make you feel worthless then you will do anything to win back their approval and consent.

its' been happening for ages between superiors and their subordinates.
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10-15-2014, 12:26 PM
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they key is NO CRIMINAL CHARGES. if she was raped and drugged, she'd be filing CRIMINAL CHARGES.

she is trumping up various claims to get out of her contract.
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10-15-2014, 12:26 PM
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Yeah, Ke$ha already noted in the past that she was forced to do things she didn't want to do.

So either this Dr. Luke was involved...which he most likely was being a co-writer and producer.

Or he was turning a blind eye and not managing/protecting his artist properly.

Whether these allegations are entirely correct may never be known but I think it's clear he was a terrible manager who engaged in making artists do things they didn't want to do against their will.

"If you don't love all, you love no one" - Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson
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10-15-2014, 12:27 PM
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[Image: kesha-tweet.jpg]

"If you don't love all, you love no one" - Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson
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10-15-2014, 12:29 PM
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i'm sure Dr. Luke is a very very depraved human being.. and he's promoting all sorts of satanic stuff... but I'm finding a lot of her claims fishy simply because she is not filing a CRIMINAL CASE.

drugging a person and raping them is a very serious issue, you just don't file a civil lawsuit over that.
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10-15-2014, 12:32 PM
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Maybe you are correct.

But is there a legitimate reason why a civil lawsuit may have a benefit over a criminal case?

I don't the answer offhand.

Maybe some of these things can't be proven in court and she just wants to remove herself from his presence?

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10-15-2014, 12:32 PM
Post: #23
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have to have smoking gun evidence to win a criminal case, not he said she said.


i can understand why she doesnt. but these are harsh accusations to throw around.
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10-15-2014, 12:35 PM
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most men who are in jail for rape are there because of he said she said stuff. many priests as well.

most of the time people aren't going to get DNA tests right after the rape, so most rape cases have no real physical evidence.

I think Dr. Luke was giving her drugs, psychologically abusing her and probably had sex with her many times, but she probably blew everything out of proportion.
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10-15-2014, 01:52 PM
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(10-15-2014 12:13 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  this whole thing is about Kesha trying to get out of her contract. I'm sure Dr. Luke psychologically abused her like many bosses do to gain control over their minions, but I think this is overblown.

if she was really RAPED by this dude why stop at a civil lawsuit. OPEN UP A CRIMINAL CASE!

Quote:Los Angeles (CNN) -- Kesha and Dr. Luke exchanged harsh accusations in lawsuits filed by the singer and producer Tuesday.
Kesha's civil complaint filed in Los Angeles claims that Dr. Luke sexually, physically and verbally abused her over the 10 years since he signed her as an 18-year-old artist.
Dr. Luke's lawsuit filed hours later in New York contends Kesha made up "outrageous and untrue statements" to extort him into releasing her from her recording contract with his label.
Her lawsuit demands that she be paid damages for suffering he caused and that her contract with Dr. Luke, whose real name is Lukasz Gottwald, be declared void because of the abuse.

If I'm not mistaken, successful civil suits often open up criminal cases.
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10-15-2014, 02:01 PM
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(10-15-2014 12:35 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  most men who are in jail for rape are there because of he said she said stuff. many priests as well.

most of the time people aren't going to get DNA tests right after the rape, so most rape cases have no real physical evidence.

I think Dr. Luke was giving her drugs, psychologically abusing her and probably had sex with her many times, but she probably blew everything out of proportion.

They aren't rich, with powerful friends. If you have wealth and power in this country, you are still innocent until proven guilty. The rest of us, not so much.

I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.
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10-15-2014, 02:07 PM
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this guy did all that? he doesn't even look like he likes women all that much.



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10-15-2014, 02:10 PM
Post: #28
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(10-15-2014 01:52 PM)BRIC Countries Wrote:  
(10-15-2014 12:13 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  this whole thing is about Kesha trying to get out of her contract. I'm sure Dr. Luke psychologically abused her like many bosses do to gain control over their minions, but I think this is overblown.

if she was really RAPED by this dude why stop at a civil lawsuit. OPEN UP A CRIMINAL CASE!

Quote:Los Angeles (CNN) -- Kesha and Dr. Luke exchanged harsh accusations in lawsuits filed by the singer and producer Tuesday.
Kesha's civil complaint filed in Los Angeles claims that Dr. Luke sexually, physically and verbally abused her over the 10 years since he signed her as an 18-year-old artist.
Dr. Luke's lawsuit filed hours later in New York contends Kesha made up "outrageous and untrue statements" to extort him into releasing her from her recording contract with his label.
Her lawsuit demands that she be paid damages for suffering he caused and that her contract with Dr. Luke, whose real name is Lukasz Gottwald, be declared void because of the abuse.

If I'm not mistaken, successful civil suits often open up criminal cases.

Excellent point. If you can't prove it in civil court, you have virtually no chance of proving it in criminal court.

I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.
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10-15-2014, 02:21 PM
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Quote:A civil case begins when a person or entity (such as a corporation or the government), called the plaintiff, claims that another person or entity (the defendant) has failed to carry out a legal duty owed to the plaintiff. Both the plaintiff and the defendant are also referred to as "parties" or "litigants."

A person accused of a crime is generally charged in a formal accusation called an indictment (for felonies or serious crimes) or information (for misdemeanors). The government, on behalf of the people of the United States, prosecutes the case through the United States Attorney's Office if the person is charged with a federal crime. A state's attorney's office prosecutes state crimes.

Raping and drugging people with date rape drugs is a serious crime. Why file a civil lawsuit?

it's obvious she's just trying to get out of her contract.
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10-15-2014, 02:27 PM
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(10-15-2014 02:07 PM)CTsar Wrote:  this guy did all that? he doesn't even look like he likes women all that much.




thsi dude is obviously very talented.

people don't know how hard it is to make pop hits.

Those who know, know! Big Grin
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