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Turns out, Neil deGrasse Tyson is a complete douche
09-23-2014, 09:42 PM
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Turns out, Neil deGrasse Tyson is a complete douche
“I’m beginning to think this Neil deGrasse Tyson fellow is a serial fabricator of quotes.” — President Thomas Jefferson, “Stuff Jefferson Said: The Prequel,” Originally self-published at Amazon.com in 1573

Neil deGrasse Tyson may be a fabulous scientist, and a consummate showman, but he’s downright terrible at accurately quoting people. Or, if you’re a “glass half full” kind of person, you might say that Neil deGrasse Tyson is pretty amazing at needlessly fabricating quotes and scenarios to showcase his own brilliance.

We’ve already established that a newspaper headline touted for years by Tyson likely doesn’t exist. We’ve also established that the exact quote he uses to bash members of Congress as being stupid also doesn’t exist. And then we established that the details within one of Tyson’s favorite anecdotes — a story of how he bravely confronted a judge about his mathematical illiteracy while serving on jury duty — seem to change every time Tyson tells the story.

In addition to those two highly questionable quotes and one highly questionable story, we now have another blatantly false quote peddled by Tyson. He has peddled this quote for years (including at a presentation on Sunday night at the Paramount Theatre in Seattle).

According to Tyson, in the days following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Bush uttered the phrase, “Our God is the God who named the stars.” According to Tyson, the president made that claim as a way of segregating radical Islam from religions like Christianity or Judaism. Here’s Tyson:

Quote:TYSON: Here’s what happens. George Bush, within a week of [the 9/11 terrorist attacks] gave us a speech attempting to distinguish we from they. And who are they? These were sort of the Muslim fundamentalists. And he wants to distinguish we from they. And how does he do it?

He says, “Our God” — of course it’s actually the same God, but that’s a detail, let’s hold that minor fact aside for the moment. Allah of the Muslims is the same God as the God of the Old Testament. So, but let’s hold that aside. He says, “Our God is the God” — he’s loosely quoting Genesis, biblical Genesis — “Our God is the God who named the stars.”


Neil deGrasse Tyson’s story has three central claims: 1) Bush uttered that precise phrase, 2) in the days immediately after 9/11, 3) in order to distance American religion from that practiced by radical Muslims.

As you have probably already guessed, every single claim is false. Every one! Then there’s Tyson’s aside that Bush’s quote was a “loose quote” of the book of Genesis. Yep, that’s false, too. Add embarrassing biblical illiteracy to Tyson’s list of accomplishments on his CV.

First off, Bush never uttered the quote attributed to him by Tyson. He did, however, include a separate but similar phrase in a February 2003 speech immediately following the Columbia space shuttle disaster:

Quote: In the skies today we saw destruction and tragedy. Yet farther than we can see, there is comfort and hope. In the words of the prophet Isaiah, “Lift your eyes and look to the heavens. Who created all these? He who brings out the starry hosts one by one and calls them each by name. Because of His great power, and mighty strength, not one of them is missing.”

The same Creator who names the stars also knows the names of the seven souls we mourn today. The crew of the shuttle Columbia did not return safely to Earth; yet we can pray that all are safely home.

I don’t have a Ph.D. in physics, but I’m pretty sure February 2003 did not happen in the week after 9/11...

...At this point, I’m legitimately curious if any quotes or anecdotes peddled by Neil deGrasse Tyson are true. Over the last week, I’ve examined only four, and every single one appears to be garbage. The “above average” headline. The “360 degrees” quote from a member of Congress. The jury duty story. And now the bogus George W. Bush quote. These are normally the types of errors that would be uncovered by peer review. Blatant data fabrication, after all, is the cardinal sin of scientific publishing. In journalism, this would get you fired. In Tyson’s world, it got him his own television show. Where are Tyson’s peers, and why is no one reviewing his assertions?

Somebody seriously needs to stage an intervention for Neil deGrasse Tyson. This type of behavior is not acceptable. It is indicative of sheer laziness, born of arrogance. Please, somebody, help him before he fabricates again.

http://thefederalist.com/2014/09/16/anot...sse-tyson/
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09-23-2014, 09:51 PM
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He's always seemed like a bit of a douche to me. His worshippers who hang off every word he says, as if it is gospel, are very douchey as well.

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09-23-2014, 10:33 PM
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He's not that good of a scientist. I believe he is a science educator?

Michio Kaku is more accomplished
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09-23-2014, 10:44 PM
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Hey man, don't be dissing the astrophysics black guy, don't want him going medieval on your ass.
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09-23-2014, 11:40 PM (This post was last modified: 09-23-2014 11:41 PM by Masato Toys.)
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Its him or Bill Nye the Science guy.

You have to bow down to at least one, or you will be put away.






PS: I never liked him either. Way too confident and condescending.

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09-23-2014, 11:55 PM
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You're not a nerd, geeks aren't sexy and you don't "fucking love" science.

come for the calo, stay for the yoshida brotha
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09-24-2014, 12:11 AM (This post was last modified: 09-24-2014 12:12 AM by Gimp.)
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Quote:Neil DeGrasse Tyson, the celebrated black physicist (he is one of the only few), has published a grand total of... ...THREE papers in his field. Total. and if you read them they are shockingly mediocre.

Quote:Tyson makes the entire room dance with enthusiasm.

But intellectually speaking, he is at the very bottom of the pecking order. In fact he probably wouldn't even have a doctorate without affirmative action.

Just who the hell drops out of the University of Texas and automatically gets accepted to an Ivy League? Wtf??

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09-24-2014, 12:13 AM
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NDT also says that GMOs are nothing to worry about LOL.
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09-24-2014, 12:14 AM
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I bet he also preaches that WTC came down from office fires

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09-24-2014, 12:15 AM
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NDT's background is indeed suspect. You don't drop out of UOT and get into an IVY league.

It is also racist just to push some guy due to his skin color.

If NDT was white, would he get the same results?

Affirmative action = racism.
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09-24-2014, 12:21 AM
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RE: Turns out, Neil deGrasse Tyson is a complete douche
The Faint-End Slopes of Galaxy Luminosity Functions in the COSMOS Field
Liu, C. T.; Capak, P.; Mobasher, B.; Paglione, T. A. D.; Scoville, N. Z.; Tribiano, S. M.; and Tyson, N. D.
2008, Astrophysical Journal Letters, v.672, p.198

--- notice how he is credited last in this paper, which means he probably contributed to least. the Chinese guy was credited first.
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09-24-2014, 12:28 AM
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^ yeah but in Hollywood... when they put an "AND _________" at the end of credits, it usually means they have a small role, but are a huge celeb.

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09-24-2014, 12:43 AM
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He's obviously not a top scientist in his field. The racist establishment decided to push him because he is black and well spoken. When you push someone purposefully for a political/social agenda you are being race conscious and therefore racist.

Other popularizers of science like Hawking or Kakau were actually top scientists in their field. I don't believe NDT is top in anything.
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09-24-2014, 12:45 AM
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Quote:Which brings us to l’affaire de Tyson. Neil Tyson, a prominent popularizer of science (he even has his own television show) was recently found to have repeatedly fabricated multiple quotes over several years. The fabrications were not a one-off thing. They were deliberate and calculated, crafted with one goal in mind: to elevate Tyson, and by extension his audience, at the expense of know-nothing, knuckle-dragging nutjobs who hate science. Tyson targeted journalists, members of Congress, even former President George W. Bush. And what was their crime? They were guilty of rejecting science, according to Tyson.

There’s only one problem. None of the straw man quotes that Tyson uses to tear them down are real. The quote about the numerically illiterate newspaper headline? Fabricated. The quote about a member of Congress who said he had changed his views 360 degrees? It doesn’t exist. That time a U.S. president said “Our God is the God who named the stars” as a way of dividing Judeo-Christian beliefs from Islamic beliefs? It never happened.

lol. this guy is DELIBERATELY making stuff up to push a political agenda. this is treachery.
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09-24-2014, 01:22 AM
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RE: Turns out, Neil deGrasse Tyson is a complete douche
He's so charismatic though, and funny.

Dodgy

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