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Remembering John Titor
05-02-2014, 09:58 PM
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Remembering John Titor
One of the greatest trolls ever, or a man from the future who brought a message with him?


From his wikipedia page;

John Titor is the name used on several bulletin boards during 2000 and 2001 by a poster claiming to be a time traveler from 2036.[1]

In these posts, Titor made numerous predictions (a number of them vague, some quite specific)[2] about events in the near future, starting with events in 2004. He described a drastically changed future in which the United States had broken into five smaller regions, the environment and infrastructure had been devastated by a nuclear attack, and most other world powers had been destroyed.

To date, the story has been retold on numerous web sites, in a book, in a play, and the Japanese visual novel/anime Steins;Gate. Titor has also been discussed occasionally on the nationally syndicated radio show Coast to Coast AM.[3]


[Image: Titor_insignia.jpg]

John Titor's military insignia

History[edit]

The first posts appeared on the Time Travel Institute forums on November 2, 2000, under the name TimeTravel_0. At the time the posts had nothing to do with future events and the name "John Titor" was not being used. Instead, the posts discussed time travel in general, the first one being the "six parts" description of what a time machine would need to have to work (see below) and responses to questions about how such a machine would work. Early messages tended to be short.

The name "John Titor" was not introduced until January 2001, when TimeTravel_0 began posting at the Art Bell BBS Forums (which required a name or pseudonym for every account). The Titor posts ended in late March 2001. Eventually, a number of the threads became corrupted; but Titor's posts had been saved on subscribers' hard drives and were copied to Anomalies.net, along with new discussions of the science behind Titor's time travelling as well as his predictions.[4]

Around 2003, various websites reproduced Titor's posts, re-arranging them into narratives. Not all refer to the original dates posted.[5]

Outline[edit]

In his online postings, Titor claimed to be an American soldier from 2036, based in Tampa in Hillsborough County, Florida, who was assigned to a governmental time-travel project. Purportedly, Titor had been sent back to 1975 to retrieve an IBM 5100 computer which he said was needed to "debug" various legacy computer programs in 2036; a reference to the UNIX year 2038 problem. The IBM 5100 runs the APL and BASIC programming languages.

Titor had been selected for this mission specifically, given that his paternal grandfather was directly involved with the assembly and programming of the 5100. Titor claimed to be on a stopover in the year 2000 for "personal reasons", to collect pictures lost in the (future) civil war and to visit his family, of whom he spoke often.

Titor also said he had been, for a few months, trying to alert anyone that would listen about the threat of Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease spread through beef products and about the possibility of civil war within the United States. When questioned about them by an online subscriber, Titor also expressed an interest in mysteries such as UFOs, which remained unexplained in his time. Titor suggested that UFOs and extra-terrestrials might be travelers from much further into the future than his own time, with superior time machines.

Time machine[edit]

Titor described his time machine on several occasions. In an early post, he described it as a "stationary mass, temporal displacement unit powered by two top-spin, dual positive singularities", producing a "standard off-set Tipler sinusoid".

The earliest post was more explicit, saying it contained the following:
Two(2) magnetic housing units for the dual micro singularities
An electron injection manifold to alter mass and gravity of the micro singularities
A cooling and X-ray venting system
Gravity sensors, or a variable gravity lock
Four(4) main cesium clocks
Three(3) main computer units

According to the posts, the device was installed in the rear of a 1967 Chevrolet Corvette convertible and later moved to a 1987 truck having four-wheel drive.

Titor shared several scans of the manual of a "C204 Time Displacement Unit" with diagrams and schematics, and posted some photographs of the device installed in the car.[6]

Titor claimed that the "Everett–Wheeler model of quantum physics", better known as the many-worlds interpretation, was correct. The model posits that every possible outcome of a quantum decision actually occurs in a separate "universe". Titor stated that this was the reason the grandfather paradox would not occur; following the logic of the argument, Titor would be killing a different John Titor's grandfather in a timeline other than his own.


...The grandfather paradox is impossible.

In fact, all paradox is impossible. The Everett–Wheeler–Graham or multiple world theory is correct.

All possible quantum states, events, possibilities, and outcomes are real, eventual, and occurring.

The chances of everything happening someplace at sometime in the superverse is 100%.[7]

Predictions[edit]

Although invoking the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, whereby events from his own timeline may differ from our own, Titor also expressed assurance that the differences were minimal. As such, his descriptions have been interpreted as predictions and compared with historical events since 2001.

The most immediate of Titor's predictions was of an upcoming civil war in the United States having to do with "order and rights".[8] He described it as beginning in 2004,[9] with civil unrest surrounding the presidential election of that year. This civil conflict that he characterizes as "having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse"[9] will be "pretty much at everyone's doorstep"[8] and erupts by 2008.

As a result of the war, the United States splits into five regions based on various factors and differing military objectives. This civil war, according to Titor, will end in 2015 with a brief but intense World War III:


In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China, and Europe.

The United States counter attacks.

The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won.

The European Union and China were also destroyed.[10]

Titor refers to the exchange as "N Day". Washington, D.C. and Jacksonville, Florida are specifically mentioned as being hit. After the war, Omaha, Nebraska is the US's new capital city. Titor is vague as to the exact motivations and causes for World War III. At one point, he characterizes the hostilities as being led by "border clashes and overpopulation",[11] but also points to the present conflict between Arabs and Jews as not a cause, but rather a milestone that precedes a World War III.

Titor claimed that as a 13-year old in 2011, he fought with the Fighting Diamondbacks, a shotgun infantry unit of Florida, for at least four years. However, in other posts he describes himself as hiding from the war.

I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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05-02-2014, 10:01 PM
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his fanbois can always say his predictions panned out in some other dimension.

Titor was entertaining while it lasted but none of his predictions came true.

I don't believe you can travel into the past from the future.

Time seems unidirectional.

i believe people can probably travel into the future at some point , but never to the past.
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05-02-2014, 10:08 PM
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He covers the fact that his predictions haven't all come to fruition with his multiple worlds claim. Those things happened on Titor's Earth, not this Earth.

I do think it is interesting that in 2001 he said that Russia and America would be at war in 2015.

I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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05-02-2014, 10:18 PM
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Quote:"There is a civil war in the United States. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe . The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. (3 Billion People wiped out.) Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska."
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05-02-2014, 10:34 PM
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Seems reasonable.

I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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05-03-2014, 11:35 AM
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(05-02-2014 10:18 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
Quote:"There is a civil war in the United States. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe . The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. (3 Billion People wiped out.) Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska."

lol

I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.
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05-03-2014, 11:41 AM
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^ he probably made that up because buffet lives there lol.
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05-03-2014, 12:34 PM
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kind of like the hidden hand series,

there were also a couple of very entertaining threads on the RB, from a couple of people somewhat like this.
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09-04-2017, 11:50 PM
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It was nice of Russia to become America's biggest trading partner after nuking them.
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09-05-2017, 12:41 AM
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Epic story! Read it a couple of years ago. It had something to do with an old atari motherboard or something John Titor came to pick up? Very interesting and detailed troll story. enjoyed it for sure
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09-05-2017, 01:08 AM
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(09-04-2017 11:50 PM)Redneck Wrote:  It was nice of Russia to become America's biggest trading partner after nuking them.

Isn't that what the US did to Japan?
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09-05-2017, 04:15 AM (This post was last modified: 09-05-2017 04:16 AM by Texas Samurai.)
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If you believe time is a social construct, a lot of things seem possible.

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Men tend to paint themselves in a better light when they're about to die; and Texas ground is filled with fools who thought they were quicker

Sometimes 'nothing' can be a real cool hand.
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