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Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
04-03-2014, 05:15 PM
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Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
The Pope ends state of limbo after 800 years

Babies who die before being baptised will no longer be trapped in limbo following a decision by the Pope to abolish the concept from Roman Catholic teaching.

The decision was taken after Benedict XVI was presented with Vatican studies that said there were "serious" grounds that such souls could go to heaven, rather than exist between heaven and hell as they have done for almost 800 years.
The 41-page report by the Vatican's Theological Commission, which was compiled following a three-year study, said the concept was an "unduly restrictive view of salvation". However, it added that baptism was the only way to remove the stain of original sin - which according to the Catholic faith all are born with - and urged parents to continue to baptise their children.
"There is greater theological awareness today that God is merciful and wants all human beings to be saved. Grace has priority over sin, and the exclusion of innocent babies from heaven does not seem to reflect Christ's special love for the little ones," the report says.
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"Our conclusion is that the many factors that we have considered... give serious theological and liturgical grounds for hope that unbaptised infants who die will be saved and enjoy the beatific vision. We emphasise that these are reasons for prayerful hope, rather than grounds for sure knowledge."
The decision marks a gradual and protracted softening of the Church's view on those who had not been baptised.
In the fifth century, St Augustine concluded that infants who died without baptism were consigned to hell.
In the 14th century, the poet Dante described limbo as the "first circle of hell" in The Divine Comedy, where such souls were not punished but grieved for their separation from God.
Later, theologians surmised that the "limbo of infants" was a state where they were deprived of the vision of God, but did not suffer because they did not know what they were deprived of. The Pope approved the document, titled The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die Without Being Baptised, in January after it was presented to him by Cardinal William Levada, the president of the Theological Commission.
The decision was announced at the weekend and posted on the Catholic News Service website.
Father Paul McPartlan, a British priest and a member of the commission, said: "We cannot say we know with certainty what will happen to unbaptised children but we have good grounds to hope that God in his mercy and love looks after these children and brings them to salvation."

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04-03-2014, 05:26 PM
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RE: Pope Francis ends the concept of Limbo.
So he's going back on centuries of ecclesiastical tradition now. Nice.


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04-03-2014, 05:33 PM (This post was last modified: 04-03-2014 05:34 PM by Hellfire Awaits.)
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
1) the Catholic church teaches that all children of Adam, save the Virgin Mary and her son Jesus, have been conceived in original sin.

2) God has granted only the Church the power to forgive sins.

3) the gates of paradise are locked for all those who have not been forgiven of their mortal sins, as well as the hereditary sin of Adam and Eve.

4) the sacrament of baptism is necessary for young children (who have not yet reached the age of accountability) to be cleansed of their original sin.

5) as such, paradise is FORBIDDEN to infants who perish before baptism.

6) however, because they have not yet reached the age of accountability, they cannot be punished for venial and mortal sins that they have not yet committed.

7) THEREFORE, sound theology dictates that all infants who have not been baptized are destined for an eternity where they are denied the presence of God, yet remain immune from the torment of the souls in Hell and Purgatory.



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04-03-2014, 05:37 PM
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
^ good post.
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04-03-2014, 08:46 PM
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
LOL, how can he just end limbo?


Is he saying that he thinks the Catholic church has had it wrong for all these years, or is he simply over riding God on this one?

I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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04-03-2014, 09:12 PM
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
the Catholic Church adapts to the times. I agree with people who say it's not pure christianity.
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04-03-2014, 11:09 PM
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
(04-03-2014 08:46 PM)Redneck Wrote:  LOL, how can he just end limbo?


Is he saying that he thinks the Catholic church has had it wrong for all these years, or is he simply over riding God on this one?

Lol

The Pope is the self-proclaimed replacement Jesus, so yeah, he can wake up tomorrow and proclaim Heaven is now somewhere in southwest Detroit and it will be so.

This is yet one more example of why there will be a special place in Sheol for these blasphemers....Wink
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04-03-2014, 11:48 PM
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
LOL Fugazi, good to see you here.

I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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04-05-2014, 07:16 AM
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
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I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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04-05-2014, 07:57 AM
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
Isn't this the fuzzy area where Jesus and God put all the LGBT?

It reminds me of the story about ice-cream and how you can't afford it

Pick a story and apply it to the character, yeah there you go
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04-06-2014, 01:28 AM
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
Denis Leary nails this one IMO

"They just change their rules too much in the Catholic church for me. Remember the Latin mass, they changed that? They just change the rules for no reason, like God just called up on the hotline. Remember Saint Christopher? They kicked him out, he's not a saint anymore, you know that? Yeah, Saint Christopher, the patron saint of travel. When we were growing up, your parents would have that Saint Christopher figurine magnetic thing that was on the dashboard when you were driving around. Now he's gone, they kicked him out. "Fuck ya! Fuck Saint Christopher, you're out!" Why? I wanna know! What did he do? Did he smoke crack in the rectory, what? Was he giving people bad directions or something? "Honey, take a left." "Make a right!" "Fuck you! Hey, wait a minute man, we're in Rochester!?"
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04-06-2014, 09:32 AM
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RE: Pope Benedict ended the concept of Limbo.
FYI:
St.Christopher is still a saint he is just not celebrated in the Calender of Saints any longer.
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10-02-2018, 08:31 PM
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