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03-19-2014, 08:13 PM
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Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
I haven't checked into anything regarding Halbigs fraud status outside of this thread, but, is it possible this is planted info to simply discredit him?
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03-19-2014, 10:55 PM
Post: #17
RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
(03-19-2014 10:34 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  The one guy that looked like he could've done something.. is looking kind of shady now.

he was asking for money BEFORE the sandy hook event. This reeks. It really does.

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Please donate and investigate what we can do in saving children from committing suicide.
I need $100,000 thousand dollars and probably pay it back once the company is up and running.
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Why not a hundred thousand thousand thousand dollars?

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03-19-2014, 11:05 PM
Post: #18
RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
(03-19-2014 08:13 PM)jscorbett Wrote:  I haven't checked into anything regarding Halbigs fraud status outside of this thread, but, is it possible this is planted info to simply discredit him?

probably not. He would have defended himself. For now it seems he has disappeared.

I would be surprised if he shows up for another interview.

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03-20-2014, 01:34 AM
Post: #19
RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
Don't kill the messenger.

Just cuz someone brings truth doesn't make them a saint. Everyone has faults, everyone needs money.

The focus should be on Sandy Hook itself, not those who question it.

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03-20-2014, 01:46 AM
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RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
^ exactly. that is the attitude I'm taking. he brought up many good issues that were not in the public discourse previously.

No one really talked about "why not a single lawsuit"

That really made me think.
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03-20-2014, 02:19 AM
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03-20-2014, 03:05 AM (This post was last modified: 03-20-2014 03:47 AM by Daglord.)
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RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
(03-20-2014 01:34 AM)Masato Toys Wrote:  Don't kill the messenger.

Just cuz someone brings truth doesn't make them a saint. Everyone has faults, everyone needs money.

The focus should be on Sandy Hook itself, not those who question it.

IMO this is an unfortunate case where it is warranted.

When almost your entire (related) background is in question, those questions should be asked (& answered). & in the interviews I have heard, he doesn't stand up well to questioning.

guy shows up (from seemingly nowhere) IMMEDIATELY asking for money so he can “ask the hard questions so you don’t have to” & starts taking people's money claiming to be filing FOIA requests, when in reality all he is doing is sending poorly written emails.

he parades around almost the entire alt media lying (?) about how the authorities are harassing him, losing his job & begins to push even harder for donations. in addition, he appears (to me) to spend a good amount of time trolling comment sections of all the major current events, trying to inject himself into the narrative. from day one he looked to gain complete control of any SH truth movement, prey on people's naivety (& take their money), & possibly put fear into people that asking about SH could potentially cost you your job and/or get the authorities attn.

besides, as winnson said, there is literally nothing to see there anymore. I doubt the truth will ever be known.

I don't think there is anything real groundbreaking in his questions either, but would like to see them answered nonetheless. some can be explained rationally imo.

RE: Lifestar chopper.

there are many cases where a chopper is not used due to the ambulance being quicker & more efficient. again, they break it down pretty well in the vid I posted.

danbury hospital is less than 12 miles away by road, straight down a freeway, an ambulance could prob make that pretty quick. taking into consideration getting the chopper ready (40 miles away from what i heard), takeoff, flight, landing, loading, & then repeat, it could be very possible the decision was made to use ambulance.

fuck knows? but it is a rational explanation. I'm still all for further investigation & getting those answers though if the opportunity arises.

I am still ALL IN for Vibin to get him on & give him a chance to clear it all up. I wasn't trying to dog the guy (too much) & pretty much stayed out of it b/c no one knows for sure...

but figured it some food for thought since EY was plugging his donation site so hard.

Quote:Update: March 10: 2014: I recalled something that Halbig said and did in my interview with him (3/4/2014). When I asked him about the address of his business, 5703 Red Bug Lake Road, Suite 103, he initially said that it was the Chief Executive officer's address. Then he quickly changed the subject and wanted to give his home address which I thought was very unwise. Then he attempted to imply that I was not being fair by not allowing him to be open with the listeners and telling him what he could and could not say. It seemed like a distraction ploy to halt my query about his business. I think he may have been feeling a bit uncomfortable at that point. When I asked him if the suite was really just a mailbox, he said, "Don't need an office." Evidently, the Chief Executive, whoever that is, lives at the UPS store. Listen to the short exchange: MP3

Update: March 9, 2014:
Halbig's website, Children’s Safety Institute, is now down. On his Face Book page he is claiming that he was fired for questioning Sandy Hook. How can one be fired from a website-based business whose phone went directly to his home? He said that his partner quit his job because of Halbig's activities. Halbig has been asking questions about Sandy Hook for about a year. Didn't his "partner," whoever that is, know about this before now? Halbig took down his web site just three days after I questioned the validity of his business on my radio program on March 4. Poseidon points out (see below) that Halbig's references on his website were dead before Halbig even created his site. If he fabricated false references, how are people trust him or seriously accept anything that he says? Did he also fabricate the story about the local "homicide" detectives and the sheriff's deputies coming to his house to threaten him? He has questioned the behavior and accused the Newtown police officials of dereliction of duty yet he does not say anything about the local police and sheriff's deputies who seem to be harassing him?

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03-20-2014, 03:17 AM
Post: #23
RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
Well, I kind of disagree with Wolfgang on the main focus.

I think the real question is whether somebody named 'Adam Lanza' committed this crime.

Whether a police office temporary told a kid to go into room 8 isn't going to shed any real light on anything.

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03-20-2014, 03:51 AM
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RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
(03-20-2014 03:17 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote:  Well, I kind of disagree with Wolfgang on the main focus.

I think the real question is whether somebody named 'Adam Lanza' committed this crime.

Whether a police office temporary told a kid to go into room 8 isn't going to shed any real light on anything.

yeah. security footage of Adam Lanza going in. Halbig did mention that he wanted to get the name of the security company and investigate this.

like I said. his 16 questions are not the only things he brought up. he talked a good game during the interviews.

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03-20-2014, 03:58 AM
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RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
Quote:RE: Lifestar chopper.

there are many cases where a chopper is not used due to the ambulance being quicker & more efficient. again, they break it down pretty well in the vid I posted.

danbury hospital is less than 12 miles away by road, straight down a freeway, an ambulance could prob make that pretty quick. taking into consideration getting the chopper ready (40 miles away from what i heard), takeoff, flight, landing, loading, & then repeat, it could be very possible the decision was made to use ambulance.

it's pretty much standard protocol in these cases esp. with a massive casualty shooter incident.

You just have them just in case. You don't know how many people are injured, you don't know if danbury can accommodate that many people so it would make sense just to have them on standby.

Here is an example of a car accident in Conneticut:

Quote:NEWINGTON, CT (WFSB) -
A fiery crash that killed one person and sent three others to local hospitals late Sunday night remains under investigation.

Newington police said they received word of the two-vehicle crash in the area of Willard Avenue and Veterans Drive just before 10:30 p.m.

According to officials, one person was pronounced dead at the scene and two other people were brought to Hartford Hospital to be treated for their injuries. A LIFE STAR medical helicopter was also requested to transport a third person to St. Francis Hospital.

2 people were sent by ambulance, lifestar was used for the 3rd because they had to go to a diff. hospital.
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03-20-2014, 04:05 AM
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RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
Quote:but figured it some food for thought since EY was plugging his donation site so hard.

I was actually one of the first to reveal the fraud claims. Professor Jim Fetzer, Alex Jones, American Free Press, Professor James Tracy have all not issued clarifications on this guy.

When I found out all the youtube vids with halbig = fraud they were fresh off the press so this is new info. the video you posted just after mine was only up for 21 hours by the time you posted it which I did see prior. And as people know I adapt to new information. Still doesn't change the validity of at least some of his questions.

It appears he is a cop/state trooper and former principal. he also ran for office which I noted in the video.

He just isnt' being straightforward with the asking for money part. Also some of his companies may be self starters and not legitimate operations.
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03-20-2014, 04:19 AM
Post: #27
RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
also I do not think this guy is dumb at all. Sure, his spelling and grammar sucks, but he knew how to work the audience in his interviews.

He was interviewed twice by infowars. He was seen as legitimate by 2 tenured professors Jim Fetzer and James Tracy. He was held up by nearly all the top Sandy Hook researchers, people who had a skeptical mindset to begin with.

He took an angle that seemed to make sense. Make people accountable for their actions. He wanted to find specific information about the companies that did the cleanup, the security etc.
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03-20-2014, 04:26 AM
Post: #28
RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
(03-20-2014 03:58 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  it's pretty much standard protocol in these cases esp. with a massive casualty shooter incident.

You just have them just in case. You don't know how many people are injured, you don't know if danbury can accommodate that many people so it would make sense just to have them on standby.

Here is an example of a car accident in Conneticut:

not entirely true:

Shooting in US leaves at least 9 dead
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/2010-08/04/...089161.htm

Quote:WASHINGTON - A shooting at a beer distribution business in the US state of Connecticut has left at least 9 people dead, local media reported on Tuesday.
The shooting took place on Tuesday morning. Omar Thornton, 34, a driver for the Hartford Distributors Inc, which is a family-run craft beer distributor in Manchester, Connecticut, opened fire at co-workers. He was reported to be using a 0.223 caliber semiautomatic rifle.

Quote:Victims were taken to Hartford Hospital by ambulance. Life Star helicopter was standing by, but officials decided ambulances would be faster. Police from Manchester and nearby towns flooded the area, as reports of an active shooter went out over the police radio.

again, I have no problems w/him asking the questions, just don't think his questions should be the main focus. porta potties? organ donors?

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03-20-2014, 04:30 AM
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RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
that exactly proves my point. The life star helicoper was standing by. whether or they would be used is an entirely different matter. In a case like sandy hook they would have to be called. esp. since the helicopters were just 30 miles away.

Like I said at least they would have to be on standby. Of course if we assume Sandy HOok was a full scale exercise, they probably wouldn't' involve the helicopters.
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03-20-2014, 04:39 AM (This post was last modified: 03-20-2014 04:49 AM by Daglord.)
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RE: Sad. Sad. Sad. Wolfang Halbig is a Fraud
(03-20-2014 04:05 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
Quote:but figured it some food for thought since EY was plugging his donation site so hard.

I was actually one of the first to reveal the fraud claims. Professor Jim Fetzer, Alex Jones, American Free Press, Professor James Tracy have all not issued clarifications on this guy.

When I found out all the youtube vids with halbig = fraud they were fresh off the press so this is new info. the video you posted just after mine was only up for 21 hours by the time you posted it which I did see prior. And as people know I adapt to new information. Still doesn't change the validity of at least some of his questions.

It appears he is a cop/state trooper and former principal. he also ran for office which I noted in the video.

He just isnt' being straightforward with the asking for money part. Also some of his companies may be self starters and not legitimate operations.

wolfgang being a potential fraud has been going since the beginning of the month. deanna spingola called him out on march 4th on RBN & no one has heard from him since. you've been pushing HARD for people to donate to him all month, but you were quick w/the fraud claim & good to see you questioning him.

meh, doesn't matter who was first, but fetzer, AJ? I doubt you will ever get those corrections. I'm not trying to totally discredit the guy, he is obviously doing more than me, but his motives should now be questioned.

I have never seen any proof of him being a principal, not to say it's isn't out there & I see no reason to lie about it, i will proudly stand corrected if it is found... unless he was talking about Aquasplash.

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