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02-25-2014, 10:33 AM
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UKRAINE - Important Discussion Thread
Quote:“After three visits to Ukraine in five weeks, Victoria Nuland explains that in the past two decades, the United States has spent five Billion dollars ($5,000,000,000) to subvert Ukraine, and assures her listeners that there are prominent businessmen and government officials who support the US project to tear Ukraine away from its historic relationship with Russia and into the US sphere of interest (via “Europe”).

Victoria Nuland is the wife of Robert Kagan, leader of the younger generation of “neo-cons”. After serving as Hillary Clinton’s spokesperson, she is now undersecretary of state for Europe and Eurasia.”
Diana Johnstone

Hear Victoria Nuland’s very concise, almost victorious speech:



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02-25-2014, 10:41 AM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
oh my my my.

Tards on the OG were accusing me of "conspiracy theorizing" again.

I am proven right again. Dupes will be dupes. so tired of haters who don't know JACK.
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02-25-2014, 10:44 AM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
OG is a cesspool of filth and debauchery.
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02-25-2014, 10:50 AM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
Did people really think ordinary Ukrainians would rise up over a failed EU deal?

Would Americans protest like this over TPP? No.

the naive, gullible ukrainians were BEING PAID to protest, through scholarships, salary through NGOs/Foundations or other indirect forms of payment etc.
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02-25-2014, 11:01 AM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
look at these shifty eyes

[Image: victoria-nuland-300x225.jpg]
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02-25-2014, 11:03 AM
Post: #6
RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
Quote:Occurring during the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia, the coup in Ukraine dealt an embarrassing black eye to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who had offended neocon sensibilities by quietly cooperating with Obama to reduce tensions over Iran and Syria, where the neocons favored military options.

Over the past several weeks, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was undercut by a destabilization campaign encouraged by Nuland and Pyatt and then deposed in a coup spearheaded by neo-Nazi militias. Even after Yanukovych and the political opposition agreed to an orderly transition toward early elections, right-wing armed patrols shattered the agreement and took strategic positions around Kiev.

Despite these ominous signs, Ambassador Pyatt hailed the coup as “a day for the history books.” Most of the mainstream U.S. news media also sided with the coup, with commentators praising the overthrow of an elected government as “reform.” But a few dissonant reports have pierced the happy talk by noting that the armed militias are part of the Pravy Sektor, a right-wing nationalist group which is often compared to the Nazis.

pathetic US mainstream media.. basically a neo-con mouthpiece.

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/23/neo...aine-coup/
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02-25-2014, 11:06 AM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
^click that link. one of the best analyses I've read so far.

written by a former AP reporter.
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02-25-2014, 01:21 PM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
At the end of the day, how will Ukrainian Euromaidan protestors be happy? Their guys were killed in a 4 to 1 ration (65 dead vs 15). Will their new president take a disadvantageous EU deal? Maybe. Ukraine's credit rating is now CCC. Is the IMF going to give them Fanny Mae free bailouts?

They don't like Yuschenko, Timoshenko, or Yanukovych, understandably. How is a new president going to make all the opposite forces happy and fix their economic problems? By opposite forces, I mean the oligarchs, IMF, and the impoverished people.

Yuschenko, the winner of the 2004 orange revolution had something like a 2% approval rating when he left- and I am not saying it is all his fault, either.

If they take the debt agreements they will be like Greece.
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02-25-2014, 02:13 PM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
it's a big game of chess.
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02-25-2014, 02:28 PM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
(02-25-2014 10:41 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  oh my my my.

Tards on the OG were accusing me of "conspiracy theorizing" again.

I am proven right again. Dupes will be dupes. so tired of haters who don't know JACK.

This is the 2nd subversive overthrow in Ukraine.

Dupes on the OG are somehow convinced that they are privy to every relevant piece of information the world has to offer. If somebody asserts an idea they are unfamiliar with, it must obviously be false because if it were true, they would know about it. Their level of dupery knows no bounds.

I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.
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02-25-2014, 02:31 PM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
(02-25-2014 02:13 PM)DonJohnson Wrote:  it's a big game of chess.

[Image: grand-chessboard.jpg]

I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.
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02-25-2014, 02:56 PM
Post: #12
RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
It's hilarious that those people consider this trolling. It is world politics, it is called realpolitik.
Serious question is the OG dumber than your average American? Currently.
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02-25-2014, 03:09 PM
Post: #13
RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
^ yeah. that place is on its last legs.

You tell something real and they accuse you of "ruining a thread"

common pattern nowadays
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02-25-2014, 03:14 PM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
whats the og forum?
Online Games? Where is it?
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02-25-2014, 03:16 PM
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RE: Nuland: US Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
^ the underground forum. I believe you PMed there first before you found out about this place.
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