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Proof that the Knights Templar Formed Switzerland?
02-13-2014, 11:24 PM
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Proof that the Knights Templar Formed Switzerland?
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There are a few important reasons why this is likely to have been the case. For example:

1. The founding of the embryonic Switzerland conforms exactly to the period when the Templars were being persecuted in France.

2. Switzerland is just to the east of France and would have been particularly easy for fleeing Templar brothers from the whole region of France to get to.

3. In the history of the first Swiss Cantons there are tales of white coated knights mysteriously appearing and helping the locals to gain their independence against foreign domination.

4. The Templars were big in banking, farming and engineering (of an early type). These same aspects can be seen as inimical to the commencement and gradual evolution of the separate states that would eventually be Switzerland.

5. Even the Swiss don’t really know the ins and outs of their earliest history (or suggest that they don’t.) They are famous for being secretive and we don’t have to tell interested readers that this is something they share absolutely with the Templars.

6. The famous Templar Cross is incorporated into the flags of many of the Swiss Cantons. As are other emblems, such as keys and lambs, that were particularly important to the Knights Templar.

7. The Swiss were and are famous for their religious tolerance – and so were the Templars.


Many would say that these are but coincidences and this is perhaps another case of conjecture. The story however is much more complicated than this, there isn’t any doubt that the Templars went somewhere. Nor should we run away with the idea that they were taken by surprise in 1307 when their order was attacked by Philip IV of France. We believe we can show that the Templars had been well aware of what was coming and were taking measures to counter the effects of their troubles with France and the Church long before 1307. Their problems actually started as early as 1280 and were directly related to (of all things) sheep scab.

In addition the Templars had lost control of their Western European Headquarters and founding city of Troyes in France. This region had fallen to the French Crown, another reason why the Templars knew their days in the region were numbered. Philip IV of France hated the Templars – and they don’t seem to have had much regard for him either.

So – Did the Templars found Switzerland? Well you can either get yourself on a plane to that mountainous region and ask someone there (though we doubt you would get a reliable answer) or you can read our book. The idea is quirky, unlikely and even (to some) unbelievable. But we remain confident that when you have read our reasons you will probably agree with us that they did.

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02-13-2014, 11:32 PM
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RE: Proof that the Knights Templar Formed Switzerland?
The Swiss Cantons

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02-13-2014, 11:37 PM
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A significant number of Templars also found refuge in Scotland, the only monarchy in 14th century Europe that didn't recognize the authority of the Catholic Church. Reorganizing under the protection of King Robert the Bruce, they soon found the perfect camouflage to hide their existence in the British Isles.

Some Templars escaped to Spain and entered orders like the Caltrava, Alcantra, and Santiago de la Espada, while others moved on to Portugal and they renamed themselves the Order of Christ. Still others fled to the Holy Roman Empire of the German nation and joined the Teuton knights, while another large group of Templars is known to have joined the Hospitalers. In England, the Templars were arrested and interrogated, but quickly released again. In still other countries, the Templars remained unmolested.

The Templars seemed to have disappeared from the history until 1804; when Bernard-Raymond Fabré Palaprat became Grand Master. Truly interesting is an accidental discovery he made in 1814… In one of the bookstalls along the river Seine in Paris, he came upon a handwritten Bible of the Yuhanna translation in the Greek language. The Bible's last two chapters were missing; and in their place were notes divided by - and containing - numerous triangles.

Examining these notes a bit closer, he realized that this was a document listing the Grand Masters of the Templars, beginning with the fifth Grand Master, Bertrand de Blanchefort ( 1154), through the 22nd, Jacques de Molay, the 23rd Larmenius of Jerusalem (1314) and then on to Grand Master Claudio Mateo Radix de Chevillon (1792). This document suggested that Jacques de Molay passed the title of Grand Master on to Larmenius of Jerusalem


After Beaujeu, the order has never ceased to exist, not for a moment, and after Aumont we find an uninterrupted sequence of Grand Masters of the Order down to our own time, and if the name and seat of the true Grand Master and the true Seneschals who rule the Order and guide its sublime labors remain a mystery today, an impenetrable secret known only to the truly enlightened, it is because the hour of the Order has not struck and the time is not ripe.

It's widely accepted that the Masons played a major role in the downfall of the French monarchy and the ensuing Revolution. When Louis XVI was guillotined in a public square in Paris, one of the onlookers shouted,

"Jacques de Molay, you have been avenged!"

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociop...lars01.htm

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02-13-2014, 11:44 PM
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RE: Proof that the Knights Templar Formed Switzerland?
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Many researchers of Templar history have pointed out the links between this symbol and the one used by the Knights Templar on their ships.

If we take into account the fact that the Templars had the world’s biggest fleet in the 13th century, and that they were well known for acts that we would call today ‘piracy’ then there is no wonder. Part of the Templar Fleet becomes integrated into the Lords of the Isles and the Northern (Sinclair)Fleet. There was a settlement on lands in Argyllshire near Sadell Abbey.


The latter Knights of Malta were also well known for piracy and we find that these Maltese Knights were in fact the very same as the Templars - having been formed or joined by the remnant of the dissolved Templars.


These new Templars or Knights of Malta were accused on several occasions of piracy and henceforth we have tales of piracy on the high seas. There is a direct link therefore between the creation or use of the skull and crossbones by the Knights Templar and our modern day idea of it being a symbol of piracy.


As for the meaning of the Skull & Bones symbol itself, in The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail, Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln tell the tale:

A great lady of Maraclea was loved by a Templar, A Lord of Sidon; but she died in her youth, and on the night of her burial, this wicked lover crept to the grave, dug up her body and violated it.


Then a voice from the void bade him return in nine months time for he would find a son. He obeyed the injunction and at the appointed time he opened the grave again and found a head on the leg bones of the skeleton (skull and crossbones).


The same voice bade him ‘guard it Well, for it would be the giver of all good things’, and so he carried it away with him. It became his protecting genius, and he was able to defeat his enemies by merely showing them the magic head. In due course, it passed to the possession of the order.

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02-13-2014, 11:59 PM
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RE: Proof that the Knights Templar Formed Switzerland?
In Portugal, the Templars were cleared by an inquiry and simply modified their name, becoming the Knights of Christ. They survived under this title well into the sixteenth century, their maritime explorations leaving an indelible mark on history. (Vasco da Gama was a Knight of Christ; Prince Henry the Navigator was a grand Master of the Order. Ships of the Knights of Christ sailed under the Templars' familiar red patte cross. And it was under the same cross that Columbus's three caravels crossed the Atlantic to the New World. Columbus himself was married to the daughter of a former Grand Master of the Order, and had access to his father-in-law's charts and diaries.) - Baigent & Leigh, The Temple and the Lodge

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Some more claims about the Templars:

It is documented that on Thursday the 12th, 1307 the entire Templar fleet was in port... and at dawn on the 13th, they were not there any more.

It is documented that Robert the Bruce of Scotland had no cavalry - and in his last battle with Longshanks he was getting his butt handed to him - until suddenly a large cavalry contingent rode in and turned the tide of the battle. There is no record as to who the riders were or where they went, but they were described as having white tabards with red crosses on them.

One of the more obscure Templar flags - their naval flag - was a white skull and crossed thigh bones on a black background.

An army came trying to conquer a peasant village in the Swiss mountains, the army was caught off-guard when the peasants fought like they were veteran solders and wiped out the army.

The Copper Scroll, which was unrolled and deciphered at Manchester University under the guidance of John Allegro, was a list of all the burial sites used to hide the various items both sacred and profane described as the treasure of the Temple of Jerusalem. Many of these sites have been re-excavated since the discovery of the Copper Scroll, and several of them have disclosed not Temple treasure but evidence of Templar excavation made in the twelfth century.

Some 200 years after the Friday the 13th incident, in 1506 the Vatican created the Swiss guard. Are the Templars still guarding the Holy Roman Church?

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02-14-2014, 12:38 AM
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RE: Proof that the Knights Templar Formed Switzerland?
Swiss Canton symbolism, closer up.

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02-14-2014, 02:19 PM
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The official story about the origin of Swiss banks.


Banking in Switzerland is regulated by the Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority (FINMA), which derives its authority from a series of federal statutes. The country's tradition of bank secrecy, which dates to the Middle Ages, was first codified in the Federal Act on Banks and Savings Banks, colloquially known as the Banking Law of 1934.[1] The regime of bank secrecy that Swiss banks are famous for came under pressure in the wake of the UBS tax evasion scandal, and the 1934 banking law was amended in 2009 to limit tax evasion by non-Swiss bank clients.

Swiss mercenaries brought home funds from their contracts that helped Swiss banks begin.[5] Banking began in the eighteenth century by way of the riches of merchants. Wegelin & Co., established in 1741, was the oldest bank in Switzerland[6][7][8] until it restructured into a new legal entity in 2013.[9] Hentsch & Cie and Lombard Odier were both founded in 1796 in Geneva as private banks, and Pictet and Cie was established in 1805 as a merchant bank.[10][11][12][13][14] Hentsch & Cie was a founding member of the Swiss National bank during 1852.[15]

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Swiss neutrality and national sovereignty, long recognized by foreign nations, have fostered a stable environment in which the banking sector was able to develop and thrive. Switzerland has maintained neutrality through both World Wars, is not a member of the European Union, and was not a member of the United Nations until 2002.[

The term private bank refers to a bank that offers private banking services and in its legal form is a partnership. The first private banks were created in St. Gallen in the mid-18th century and in Geneva in the late 18th century as partnerships, and some are still in the hands of the original families such as Hottinger and Mirabaud. In Switzerland, such private banks are called private bankers (a protected term) to distinguish them from the other private banks which are typically shared corporations. Historically in Switzerland a minimum of CHF1 million was required to open an account, however, over the last years many private banks have lowered their entry hurdles to CHF250,000 for private investors.[citation needed]

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Pressure on Switzerland has been applied by several states and international organizations attempting to alter the Swiss privacy policy. The European Union, whose member countries geographically surround Switzerland, has complained about member states' nationals using Swiss banks to avoid taxation in their home countries. The EU has long sought a harmonized tax regime among its member states, although many Swiss banking officials (and, according to some polls, the public) are resisting any such changes.[1]

However, Switzerland did not want to be seen as an obstacle to closer tax cooperation among EU-member states and decided to support the international efforts to adequately tax cross-border investment income. The retention tax agreed with the European Union (EU) in the taxation of savings income agreement is a suitable and efficient means of doing so. The EU is committed to eliminating existing loopholes in the system of taxation of savings income. Switzerland has expressed to the EU its willingness in principle to correspondingly adjust the taxation of savings income. Here it should be noted that Switzerland has adopted the OECD standard on administrative assistance and that the Federal Council rejects the automatic exchange of information.[44] Since July 1, 2005, Switzerland has charged a withholding tax on all interest earned in the personal Swiss accounts of European Union residents.

Switzerland is not a member of the European Union but, since December 2008,[45] is a part of the Schengen agreement.


Currently an estimated one-third of all worldwide funds held outside their country of origin (sometimes called "offshore" funds) are kept in Switzerland. In 2001, Swiss banks managed US$2.6 trillion. The following year they handled US$400 billion less which has been attributed to both a bear market and stricter regulations on Swiss banking.[20] By 2007 this figure has risen to roughly US$2.7 trillion, a record.[21]

The Bank of International Settlements, an organization that facilitates cooperation among the world's central banks, is headquartered in the city of Basel. Founded in 1930, the BIS chose to locate in Switzerland because of the country's neutrality, which was important to an organization founded by countries that had been on both sides of World War I.[22]

SWISS CAPITAL MARKET

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American courts convicted Wegelin & Co. of money-laundering and tax evasion, and accordingly the bank's correspondent account held by UBS AG in Connecticut was fined $16 million by the federal courts.[3][27] The bank argued that it only had branches in Switzerland, not the United States, and was, therefore only subject to Swiss law. In January 2013, Wegelin & Co. admitted to allowing more than 100 American citizens to hide approximately $1.2 billion from the Internal Revenue Service for almost 10 years. The bank agreed to pay $57.8m (£36m; 44m euros) in fines to US authorities: a restitution of $20 million, asset forfeiture of $15.8 million, and $22.05 million in other fines.[8]

In the New York court, the bank's representatives said the bank's practice was legal under Swiss law and common practice in Swiss banking, but admitted that their US customers violated the US law.[6]


"Wegelin was aware that this conduct (of their customers) was wrong ... From about 2002 through to about 2010, Wegelin agreed with certain US taxpayers to evade the US tax obligations of these US taxpayer clients, who filed false tax returns with the IRS."—Otto Bruderer, a manager of Wegelin & Co. in NY court.[4]

After pleading guilty in a New York court to helping Americans evade their taxes, the bank announced that it would close permanently.[7] It was the first non-American bank to plead guilty to tax evasion charges in the United States.[7]

Although it paid millions in fines, a lawyer involved in previous prosecutions of Swiss banks noted, "It is unclear whether the bank was required to turn over American client names who held secret Swiss bank accounts."[8]

According to Reuters, "At the end of [January 2012], 270-year-old Wegelin said it had moved most of its employees, along with clients and assets of 21 billion Swiss francs, to Notenstein Privatbank,"[28] just a week prior to being inculpated, on 3 February 2012. Thus, the bank managed to transfer most of its business activities and employees—all non US related—to a legally different entity, Notenstein Privatbank, established by Wegelin & Co. as a subsidiary in 1968, but legally distinct. This subsidiary was also based in the same Nothveststein building, as the Wegelin & Co.'s employees were. The Notenstein Privatbank continues to operate from the former Wegelin & Co. headquarters[9] with Wegelin's former 700 employees.[10] Also, while under a different name and legal identity, the bank's business continues with little impact.

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After the transfer of the bulk of its activities including about 700 employees to Notenstein Privatbank, Wegelin & Co. only had 15 remaining employees as of February 2012

The case has led to a general unwillingness of Swiss banks to have US citizens as clients, "so much so that US citizens living in Switzerland find it extremely difficult to open a bank account or get a mortgage.

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02-14-2014, 03:28 PM
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extremely fascinating stuff right here prof.

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02-14-2014, 03:34 PM
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proof prof? leally?
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02-14-2014, 10:50 PM
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(02-14-2014 03:34 PM)Som-Pong Wrote:  proof prof? leally?



I was asking a question, not stating a fact.

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02-14-2014, 10:59 PM
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RE: Proof that the Knights Templar Formed Switzerland?
not ridiculous. I think even academics attribute the rise of banking with the templars.

switzerland is the banking capital of the world. Switzerland is home to the boss of the federal reserve the Bank of INternational Settlements.
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02-14-2014, 11:17 PM
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Quote:In the 12th century, the need to transfer large sums of money to finance the Crusades stimulated the re-emergence of banking in western Europe. In 1162, Henry II of England levied a tax to support the crusades—the first of a series of taxes levied by Henry over the years with the same objective. The Templars and Hospitallers acted as Henry's bankers in the Holy Land. The Templars' wide flung, large land holdings across Europe also emerged in the 1100–1300 time frame as the beginning of Europe-wide banking, as their practice was to take in local currency, for which a demand note would be given that would be good at any of their castles across Europe, allowing movement of money without the usual risk of robbery while traveling.


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02-14-2014, 11:23 PM
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RE: Proof that the Knights Templar Formed Switzerland?
The Templars were forced to relocate their headquarters to other cities in the north, such as the seaport of Acre, which they held for the next century. It was lost in 1291, followed by their last mainland strongholds, Tortosa (Tartus in what is now Syria), and Atlit in present-day Israel.

The establishment of the Swiss Confederation is traditionally dated to 1 August 1291, which is celebrated annually as Swiss National Day.

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02-14-2014, 11:26 PM
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Quote:The toponym Schwyz itself is first attested in 972, as Old High German Suittes, ultimately perhaps related to suedan "to burn", referring to the area of forest that was burned and cleared to build

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02-15-2014, 10:55 PM
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RE: Proof that the Knights Templar Formed Switzerland?
(02-14-2014 11:26 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
Quote:The toponym Schwyz itself is first attested in 972, as Old High German Suittes, ultimately perhaps related to suedan "to burn", referring to the area of forest that was burned and cleared to build

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I think even the most die-hard skeptic would have to concede that there's some smoke here that could be from a fire.

Even if the Templars descendants melded into Swiss society and disbanded as an order, I think the chances of at least some of the Knights Templar being an integral part of the formation of Switzerland, are reasonably good.

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