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I AM THE WALRUS! The Official Beatles Conspiracy Thread
01-16-2014, 04:42 AM
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We'll see EY, Redneck might have some smoking gun evidence when he gets here. He's been looking at this for years.

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01-16-2014, 04:51 AM
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RE: I AM THE WALRUS! The Official Beatles Conspiracy Thread
"Ringo Starr"

Ring + Star

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01-16-2014, 04:54 AM
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Who knows what this "Ringo Stars" story was or why he replaced Peter Best.

But we do know that George Martin didn't trust him enough to play drums on the first album and hired a studio drummer instead.

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01-16-2014, 04:56 AM
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(01-16-2014 04:27 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote:  And ends with a Lennon tribute to the "Old Paul", who had just passed on in a car accident.

The "New Paul" makes an appearance in the middle that describes being called upon the fill his new role.




it was inspired by the death of tara browne. friend of lennons & mccartneys who died in a car crash.

day in the life was a true lennon/macca collaboration. two separate songs combined into one. they each sing their own respective parts, thats why paul comes in the middle.

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01-16-2014, 05:02 AM
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PID was a troll job, but my belief system has been shattered the last few years so anything is possible now IMO.

but most lyrics are easily explainable.

but...

"paul is a dead man, miss him, miss him..." & the "I buried paaauuul" ramblings...????

odd.

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01-16-2014, 05:03 AM
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(01-16-2014 04:56 AM)Daglord Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 04:27 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote:  And ends with a Lennon tribute to the "Old Paul", who had just passed on in a car accident.

The "New Paul" makes an appearance in the middle that describes being called upon the fill his new role.




it was inspired by the death of tara browne. friend of lennons & mccartneys who died in a car crash.

day in the life was a true lennon/macca collaboration. two separate songs combined into one. they each sing their own respective parts, thats why paul comes in the middle.

Well, to be honest, I am not convinced at all that Paul actually died.

They look like the same guy to me but the theories floating around surrounding it are interesting.

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01-16-2014, 05:06 AM
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But idea that their popularity might have been largely manufactured by Tavistock seems more valid.

Just kind of throwing different things out there for discussion.

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01-16-2014, 05:07 AM
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I also think Ringo was a good drummer but it is odd that George Martin didn't want him playing on the first album for whatever reason.

It might, at the very least, show how controlled and engineered the band was early on.

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01-16-2014, 05:09 AM
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and this...





Quote:In the released version, Lennon sings “Like a rolling stone. A like a rolling stone. Like the FBI and the CIA, and the BBC, BB King and Doris Day, Matt Busby.” At the end of the song Lennon can be heard saying “that was Can You Dig It by Georgie Wood, and now we’d like to do Hark the Angels Come.” The second sentence was cut out from the Let It Be film recording.

The person that immediately stands out is B.B. King. Similar to McCartney, a rumor has been spreading for a long time that B.B King was killed and replaced. In 1958, King’s tour bus collided with a gas truck while traveling on a bridge in Texas. The truck driver was killed in the accident and the bus was burned beyond recognition. Reports surfaced that B.B. King was killed in the crash, but it was revealed that he was not on the bus. On the weekend of the accident, King’s insurance company was in the process of dissolution and his insurance was terminated. B.B. King has performed over 15,000 concerts in his career and continues to entertain the masses.

In the song Dig It, John’s reference to the Rolling Stones has been attributed to two possible individuals, Bob Dylan and Brian Jones. Doris Day is an American actress and singer. To date, she has starred in 39 films and recorded over 650 songs. As of 2009, Doris Day was the top-ranking female box office star of all time. The conspiracy theory claims that Doris Day died in 1958, after suffering from an unknown illness. In an interesting twist, the only son of Doris Day is a man named Terry Melcher, who was connected to Charles Manson and owned the house where Sharon Tate was murdered.

Matt Busby was a Scottish football player and manager. He managed Manchester United between the years 1945 and 1969. In 1958, the Munich air disaster occurred, when a plane carrying the Manchester United football team crashed and 23 people died. Eight Manchester United players died in the crash. The theory states that Matt Busby was killed in the 1958 accident, and replaced with a look-alike. At the end of Dig It, Lennon makes a reference to Wee Georgie Wood, who was a British actor and comedian who appeared in films, plays and music hall revues. Wood, who was a midget, worked most his professional life in the disguise of a child, appearing in comic and sentimental sketches. Whatever the case, John Lennon certainly put together an interesting list of people for this song.

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01-16-2014, 05:17 AM
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(01-16-2014 04:51 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote:  "Ringo Starr"

Ring + Star

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[Image: pentagram9hm1.jpg]

Mind blown!!!!

Wow

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01-16-2014, 05:38 AM
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(01-16-2014 04:36 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 03:55 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote:  Offhand, I remember that when George Martin signed The Beatles their problem with getting signed was that, despite being good singers, their songs were terrible.

It only makes sense that somebody like Theodor Adorno would have been hired.

Adorno had ties to Tavistock and supposedly devised what was known as the 12 atonal system of music.




Just need a solid link or source. Im apt to believe they were a social engineering exercise... But cant find the smoking gun. This would be very useful for me lol

Not probably the 'smoking gun' you are looking for but a great analysis of what made the early Beatles music so unique and different.

The chordal implementation, according to the author of the article, is traced back to philosopher and musicologist Theodor Adorno.

http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLU...ords.shtml

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01-16-2014, 05:52 AM
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It would be very hard dor an academic musician to make such catchy pop tunes imo. TotLly diff. Domain of expertise. Fascinating threAd dean
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01-16-2014, 06:51 AM (This post was last modified: 01-16-2014 06:52 AM by Daglord.)
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I AM THE WALRUS! The Official Beatles Conspiracy Thread
(01-16-2014 05:03 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 04:56 AM)Daglord Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 04:27 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote:  And ends with a Lennon tribute to the "Old Paul", who had just passed on in a car accident.

The "New Paul" makes an appearance in the middle that describes being called upon the fill his new role.




it was inspired by the death of tara browne. friend of lennons & mccartneys who died in a car crash.

day in the life was a true lennon/macca collaboration. two separate songs combined into one. they each sing their own respective parts, thats why paul comes in the middle.

Well, to be honest, I am not convinced at all that Paul actually died.

They look like the same guy to me but the theories floating around surrounding it are interesting.

Absolutely! The whole PID thing sent me down the path of really listening to the beatles.

They've prob been my favorite band ever since.

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01-16-2014, 07:24 AM
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(01-16-2014 04:54 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote:  Who knows what this "Ringo Stars" story was or why he replaced Peter Best.

But we do know that George Martin didn't trust him enough to play drums on the first album and hired a studio drummer instead.

when asked in an interview once "Is Ringo Starr the best drummer in the world?" Lennon quipped "He's not the best drummer in The Beatles!"
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01-16-2014, 08:07 AM
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(01-16-2014 04:01 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote:  There is also evidence to suggest that the 'screaming and fainting girls' seen on the Ed Sullivan appearance was basically planted ahead of time as a way of introducing The Beatles and this new form of rock-n-roll to the American teenage public.



The entire US Invasion was staged, the girls at the airport were hired and given signs, and to;d to scream wildly. The same with the Ed Sullivan audience, the vast majority of the screaming girls had never heard of the Beatles, and neither had the US public at the time. The Ed Sullivan show was used to sell them to America, and it worked.

When they released their first single. 'Please please me', it was not popular and sales were flat. Brian Epstein, the Beatles manager, purchased thousands of copies of the record and forced it into the charts. Ringo sucked so bad at drumming that Martin used another drummer on the early recordings. McArtney and Lennon could not read or write music, yet the stuff they started churning out when they stopped being a cover band, was cutting edge for its time and indicated strong technical knowledge of music.

I do find it interesting that the Adorno refined his craft at the German Frankfurt school, where he returned after the war until his death in 1969 (same year that the Beatles stopped writing songs), and that the young Beatles spent a great amount of their formative years in Germany. Probably just another coincidence.

There is no documented connection that I can find between Tavistock, Adorno, and the Beatles, or even proff that Adorno ever owned the songs, but there is no doubt in my mind that the Beatles were a creation, the prototype boy band, and it would amaze me if they weren't receiving the very best help to ensure their success and influence on society.

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