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Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
12-23-2013, 09:30 PM
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Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
Quote:Fierce debate has been raging in 'The Independent' about Israel's conduct in Gaza. Here, one leading Jewish thinker argues that until Jews shake off their persecution complex, there can never be peace in the Middle East

Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
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12-24-2013, 02:38 AM
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RE: Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
the answer is "YES".


passive aggressive culture.
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12-24-2013, 02:40 AM
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RE: Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
the guy who wrote that article is jewish.

A lot of jews are waking up to what is happening.

like all religions, the flock can be manipulated by the higher ups.
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12-24-2013, 03:45 AM
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RE: Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
Quote:We are not condemned to accept the fate which the closed-minded ethnocentricity of so many Jews dictates to us. Ameliorating our predicament, restoring the balance, could come from acknowledging modest but profound truths, even if we get to them through distasteful comparisons.

I know that the siege, bombardment and invasion of Gaza were not like the German obliteration of the Warsaw ghetto – a comparison that critics of Israel are spreading through the internet I believe. And our need for calm and compassionate examination of the reality of the conflict would be greatly enhanced if we could retire such comparisons. But if we pause to think of the suffering of a dying Jewish child in the ghetto and a dying Palestinian child in Gaza, who would dare to suggest that their suffering is any different. Yet, as Professor Baron seems to imply, we fall all too easily into the trap of thinking that there is something unique about Jewish suffering. There isn't.



Antony Lerman is the former director of the Institute for Jewish Policy Research
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12-26-2013, 03:45 PM
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RE: Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
Of course the answer is yes, it's a vital aspect of the self-rationalization of their behavior. They must think what they're doing is right, like everyone else, and so the victim complex is part of what enables them to survive in their unique mode of existence.

It's not uncommon for Jews to write some of the most poignant truths about Jews, but you must be careful not to be taken in. Virtually every Jew places "What's best for the Jews" first and foremost in every situation, and what's best for the Jews is almost always to the detriment of the founding peoples of a given nation (unless it's Israel, of course). Stuff like this, Norman Finkelstein's "The Holocaust Industry", etc. are almost always the product of a Jew simply skeptical of whether the behavior of their kin is really what is best for the tribe.
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12-26-2013, 04:41 PM
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(12-26-2013 03:45 PM)Reflexion Wrote:  It's not uncommon for Jews to write some of the most poignant truths about Jews, but you must be careful not to be taken in. Virtually every Jew places "What's best for the Jews" first and foremost in every situation, and what's best for the Jews is almost always to the detriment of the founding peoples of a given nation (unless it's Israel, of course). Stuff like this, Norman Finkelstein's "The Holocaust Industry", etc. are almost always the product of a Jew simply skeptical of whether the behavior of their kin is really what is best for the tribe.

The problem is not that Jewish people share this mentality.

Because this is something that all races around the world ought to emulate.

The problem is retard goyim whites who believe in the exact opposite. MY NAIVE POLITICAL VIEWS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE WELFARE OF MY RACE! Typical.




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12-26-2013, 05:07 PM
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RE: Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
Great points, it certainly behooves every people to look out for the interests of their own, but Jews tend to go to great lengths to conceal this motive, while claiming to be looking out for everyone.

It's also very true that none of the subversions I accuse Jews of would bear any fruit if not for the moral weakening of whites, which of course I also blame on subversion, haha. On one end they exploit white altruism by conditioning whites to think their race is morally bankrupt and thus doesn't deserve autonomy anywhere (could any other race be capable of such racial self-guilt? I highly doubt it), while on the other end they get behind or act in league with all the most self (money)-centered businessmen and political prospects. Deracinated men who don't look out for anyone beyond themselves and their families, addicted to making money and ever-beholden to "What's good for business?" before all else.
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12-26-2013, 05:13 PM
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RE: Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
but at some point, you just have to stop blaming others and learn how to use their methods.

Asians were completely overrun and butt-fugged by white people.. but they didn't sit around and complain about the white boogeyman all day. they were basically like.. what do they have that we don't have. Namely tech, organization, modern methods. they learned that stuff and built up the capability to defend themselves.
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12-26-2013, 07:06 PM (This post was last modified: 12-26-2013 07:11 PM by Hellfire Awaits.)
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(12-26-2013 05:07 PM)Reflexion Wrote:  Great points, it certainly behooves every people to look out for the interests of their own, but Jews tend to go to great lengths to conceal this motive, while claiming to be looking out for everyone.

It's also very true that none of the subversions I accuse Jews of would bear any fruit if not for the moral weakening of whites, which of course I also blame on subversion, haha. On one end they exploit white altruism by conditioning whites to think their race is morally bankrupt and thus doesn't deserve autonomy anywhere (could any other race be capable of such racial self-guilt? I highly doubt it), while on the other end they get behind or act in league with all the most self (money)-centered businessmen and political prospects. Deracinated men who don't look out for anyone beyond themselves and their families, addicted to making money and ever-beholden to "What's good for business?" before all else.

Well what country doesn't, or hasn't, historically speaking? Look at the hilarious excuses the Japanese made when they slaughtered millions of innocents during WWII. WELL WE'RE JUST LOOKING OUT FOR OUR FELLOW ASIANS. Uhh, I think not.

The problem with Jews is that until recently they didn't have a country if their own. Even a cursory glance at the long history of enmity, mutual hatreds, open deception, and espionage between closely related European tribes reveals that Jewish tribal behavior is only unique in degree and subtlety, not in kind. Shit, over 30% of the population of Germany perished during the Thirty Years' War, and all of this was at the hands of their fellow whites. Do blame this on the Jews too?) That, combined with their towering paranoia over gentile persecution (which is partially based on legitimate historical grievances) informs many of their toxic and self-destructive* political agendas.

It also doesn't help that whites (well, the "creative" ones) genuinely did do a lot of evil shit up to the first half of the twentieth century -- and if you're going to count geopolitical "mishaps" such as the Iraq War (you can partially blame the Tribe for that one, but most of the willing and public executioners remain goyim), much of it continues unabated to the present day. Hard to guilt trip the Koreans into hating their heritage and culture because historically speaking, they have done very little to victimize other races and cultures, even when they were in a position of power. Certain eastern Europeans are also immune to the effects of toxic liberal nihilism partially for this reason.

But that's neither here nor there, and none of it justifies the ongoing assault on traditional western values and civilization.

Israel hasn't helped matters much at all, because it exists at precisely the wrong moment in time in exactly the worst place imaginable. If the Jewish persecution complex was bad in the decades following the second world war, imagine how paranoid the Heebs are now that they've got BOTH of the world's two great monotheistic faiths allied against their cause. Criminal elements exist in every single race, but in order for ordinary, law abiding Jews to support toxic and destructive agendas, you just first convince them that these are moral actions that will ensure their continued survival as a people. And I'm not even sure that they're going to win this final round in the clash between civilizations. The Götterdämmerung of the Jews.



*I say self-destructive, because liberalism really hasn't been good for the Jewish tribe whatsoever. Secular Jews (even in Israel) have some of the highest rates of intermarriage with gentiles (in the US, to the tune of 40% or higher) and one of the lowest birth rates in the world. They're pretty much driving themselves to extinction.



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12-27-2013, 04:22 AM
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come for the calo, stay for the yoshida brotha
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12-27-2013, 06:33 PM
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^ I really need to watch that.

I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.
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12-27-2013, 07:26 PM
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RE: Must Jews always see themselves as victims?
(12-24-2013 02:40 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  the guy who wrote that article is jewish.

A lot of jews are waking up to what is happening.

like all religions, the flock can be manipulated by the higher ups.


He's clearly a self-hating Jew.

I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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