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11-22-2013, 03:52 PM
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Quote:The fact that the Cathedral / NWO constantly attacks Catholicism convinced me that it is worthy of support.

because you are a trained logician you can see this fact clearly.

I approach all this stuff without bias.

I even admit the Church's pagan leanings.. which many catholics would not admit.

many people cannot see clearly with regards to the RCC. it's been ingrained into them to hate it from the movies, from school, media etc.

You don't have to support every position of the Church... but they do have the power, the organization, the history to combat the NWO.

when the eastern orthodox church and the catholics team up.. they will be a formidable foe against the NWO.
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11-22-2013, 04:31 PM
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(11-22-2013 03:31 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  I think modern day liberals are just atheistic versions of protestants. they lost the faith in god, but sublimated that radical proselytizing fervor into human rights, feminism etc.

like protestant missionaries, they seek to convert others and are dogmatic.

i have been approached dozens of times in my life by protestants.. not once has a catholic tried to convert me.

Moldbug elaborates on this idea in How Dawkins got pwned (part 1). His argument is that Dawkins, who has dedicated his life to attacking religion, is himself a Christian of the progressive denomination.
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11-22-2013, 04:37 PM
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^ very long but interesting.

my view is that as long as people are reactionary to whatever.. the NWO stays in control.

they are the pole.. and the left and right wings spin on their axis.

if you get a more moderate outlook.. you become the pole.. and their space is threatened.
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11-22-2013, 04:47 PM
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this neoreaction guy Laliberte is a catholic.

very interesting. he identifies with thomas aquinas.
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11-22-2013, 04:47 PM
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book is here:

http://www.amazon.com/What-Neoreaction-S...B00FIVER0K
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11-22-2013, 04:52 PM
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(11-22-2013 04:31 PM)KötGödel Wrote:  
(11-22-2013 03:31 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  I think modern day liberals are just atheistic versions of protestants. they lost the faith in god, but sublimated that radical proselytizing fervor into human rights, feminism etc.

like protestant missionaries, they seek to convert others and are dogmatic.

i have been approached dozens of times in my life by protestants.. not once has a catholic tried to convert me.

Moldbug elaborates on this idea in How Dawkins got pwned (part 1). His argument is that Dawkins, who has dedicated his life to attacking religion, is himself a Christian of the progressive denomination.

Mencius Moldbug is a fool, and his erroneous notion of "The Cathedral" [sic] is nothing more than a pretentious attempt to divert blame for modern liberal depravity away from European Jewry and toward ordinary Christians. Why doesn't he call it the "Synagogue" instead?



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11-22-2013, 04:56 PM
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(11-22-2013 04:37 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  ^ very long but interesting.

my view is that as long as people are reactionary to whatever.. the NWO stays in control.

they are the pole.. and the left and right wings spin on their axis.

if you get a more moderate outlook.. you become the pole.. and their space is threatened.

What do you mean by 'moderate'? I'm confident that the establishment would label your views as "extreme" and that most of your views are close to those found among the neoreactionaries.

As for being reactionary, that is a consequence of being the non-political type who only interests himself in politics after politics has interested itself in him. If it weren't for the all-encompassing, insatiable nature of the modern left, I would be focus on more worthy pursuits. Reaction is a defense mechanism.
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11-22-2013, 05:01 PM
Post: #23
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(11-22-2013 04:56 PM)KötGödel Wrote:  
(11-22-2013 04:37 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  ^ very long but interesting.

my view is that as long as people are reactionary to whatever.. the NWO stays in control.

they are the pole.. and the left and right wings spin on their axis.

if you get a more moderate outlook.. you become the pole.. and their space is threatened.

What do you mean by 'moderate'? I'm confident that the establishment would label your views as "extreme" and that most of your views are close to those found among the neoreactionaries.

As for being reactionary, that is a consequence of being the non-political type who only interests himself in politics after politics has interested itself in him. If it weren't for the all-encompassing, insatiable nature of the modern left, I would be focus on more worthy pursuits. Reaction is a defense mechanism.

well.. the establishment espouses radical beliefs.. so normal beliefs are labeled as extreme.

I am very moderate with all this stuff. I like some things about the left, i like some things about the right. I am anti-racism as well, but I believe that race and culture are intertwined.

I tend to support theoretically gun control, but not in the current US climate.

I support the RCC which is the most moderate out of all the mainstream religions.

but maybe you could call it "revolutionary moderatism" or "counter revolutionary"

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11-22-2013, 05:06 PM
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case in point..

if you say there are differences between the races..

the establishment would label you an extremist or a racist.

but anyone with half a brain knows that is true.

So my view is actually a normal view.. whereas their view is extreme.

another point

if you support diplomatic solutions with Syria or Iran..you are labeled an extremist by the establishment.

they have warped black into white, and white into black.

I do react.. everyone reacts.. i have just learned how not to froth at the mouth and get all pissy.

a subversive target needs to be sufficiently reactive. so you react.. but you stay calm.
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11-22-2013, 05:09 PM
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people who believe in the constitution ( US LAW) are now labeled extremists.

but are they really?

I think Putin is a great example of a counter revolutionary force that has learned how to deal with these goons.

he does not overreact.. he does not go to extremes. he knows how to engage in proportionate weighting in terms of what he says.
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11-22-2013, 05:10 PM
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11-22-2013, 05:21 PM
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(11-22-2013 04:52 PM)Hellfire Awaits Wrote:  
(11-22-2013 04:31 PM)KötGödel Wrote:  
(11-22-2013 03:31 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  I think modern day liberals are just atheistic versions of protestants. they lost the faith in god, but sublimated that radical proselytizing fervor into human rights, feminism etc.

like protestant missionaries, they seek to convert others and are dogmatic.

i have been approached dozens of times in my life by protestants.. not once has a catholic tried to convert me.

Moldbug elaborates on this idea in How Dawkins got pwned (part 1). His argument is that Dawkins, who has dedicated his life to attacking religion, is himself a Christian of the progressive denomination.

Mencius Moldbug is a fool, and his erroneous notion of "The Cathedral" [sic] is nothing more than a pretentious attempt to divert blame for modern liberal depravity away from European Jewry and toward ordinary Christians. Why doesn't he call it the "Synagogue" instead?



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Moldbug is no fool, although he is dishonest in ignoring the role of Jews in the rise of progressivism. He does not assign blame to ordinary Christians, but to "post-Christians" who've abandoned belief in God, thereby becoming "progressives". This at least offers an explanation for the non-Jewish white liberal (whose very existence has always astonished me) and is plausible enough that EY independently arrived at the same conclusion. We can explain the rise of the left in terms of Jewish ethnic activism, but the question of why whites are vulnerable to such absurdities requires something like Moldbug's explanation.
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11-22-2013, 05:28 PM
Post: #28
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Blaming the jews is counterproductive IMO.

Sure subsets of them have been at the helm of many revolutionary movements.. and some produced good things like better opportunities for minorities etc. Feminism up to a point was needed etc.

The best way is to criticize the ideology.. not the race. This way you do not alienate the jews that may be sympathetic to your views. Also what is a jew is not entirely clear as they straddle between race, religion, culture.

Also regular whites like blaming the zionists, but who agreed with their activism? So if you agree with it and in turn support it it's unfair to scapegoat them. I mean if someone tells you that race is a social construct.. and you believe it.. whose fault is it?

they are organized and cohesive so they will have an advantage in terms of group power.

The folly of whites is that they organized based on race, rather than on their culture (christianity)
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11-22-2013, 05:48 PM
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Quote:Jewish Influence on Christian Reform Movements Paperback – May 23, 2008
by Louis I. Newman (Author)

This work is a study of a few typical "Reform Movements" or heresies in the history of Catholicism during the Middle Ages and of Protestantism during the Reformation era. It has been undertaken with a view to describing and analyzing the contributions by Jews and Judaism to the rise and development of these movements.

this looks like an interesting book.

700 bucks on amazon haha.

there is a lot of overlap between freemasonry and kabbalistic judaism.
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11-22-2013, 05:53 PM
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(11-22-2013 03:18 PM)KötGödel Wrote:  
(11-22-2013 03:09 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  I am reading the intro of Bryce Laliberte's book now.

He starts off with:

"the history of the world is the history of catholicism"

yep at least for a large part of the world this is true. this is why I talk about catholicism. people think it's weird but it's true. you cannot understand the world without understanding Catholicism and the heretical movements that sought to undermine it.

I think Catholicism is one of the most flexible religions out there and is actually the most open to criticism.

The fact that the Cathedral / NWO constantly attacks Catholicism convinced me that it is worthy of support. Mencius Moldbug's (author of "Unqualified Reservations") thesis is that modern progressivism is a form of protestantism which evolved to a non-theistic form in order to spread more effectively. The competing thesis in the reactosphere is that it is the result of Jewish ethnic activism. In this case, I believe that Hegel applies: the truth lies in the synthesis.

The bold is where I am at. Many who have been led to an atheist leaning simply don't get it. The conditioning and talking points are simply too powerful.

I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.
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