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02-05-2013, 01:11 PM (This post was last modified: 02-05-2013 01:28 PM by Daniel Carver.)
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Now that my posts are showing up, I think colloidal silver isn't what it's cracked up to be...at the same time, I don't buy the "it'll turn you blue" stuff either. I think it's a cleverly packaged placebo.

(02-05-2013 01:11 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
(02-05-2013 01:09 PM)Daniel Carver Wrote:  
(02-05-2013 01:07 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  wow.

I had never heard about this even in Chinese medicine.

i guess it's some western folk medicine or something.

Honestly, I don't buy into the whole "eastern vs. western medicine" thing. There's medicine and there's stuff that hasn't been proven to work, IMO.

well there are differences.

I think a lot of the chinese stuff is unproven but through practical experience has worked.

i think over thousands of years, through trial and error.. it basically simulates the scientific method or scientific trials.

it's amazing how much they knew, without modern scientific techniques.

like ginseng.. that stuff is a gonadal stimulant! they knew this without scientific proof!

Unless it's studied in a double blind trial, we can't be sure that the placebo effect isn't at work.




All I've been able to find about Jubb is a PhD in physiology, and no independent studies that back the Italian doctor's assertions. You''l have to excuse me if I remain skeptical...taking stuff like this at face value is how we get guys like Stanislaw Burzynski running wild.
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02-05-2013, 01:51 PM (This post was last modified: 02-05-2013 01:53 PM by Gracie.)
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Have you ever tried Meso Silver? I used to take echinacea and I still got sick. I tried Zinc and still got sick. Why was that not a placebo affect? With all due respect doctor..I am not surprised an MD is here trying to debunk everything. That's fine..this is a conspiracy theorist dominated website and everyone here is skeptical of you and how you just popped up here. And skeptical of the whole AMA and the Pharmaceutical companies. You may be an honest doctor with good intentions that really wants to help people but we believe what the AMA has taught you (especially about cancer) is deliberately wrong. That just comes to conspiracy theorists naturally.

If someone gets into a bad car accident..the techology to help them is amazing. But cancer-wise, I will take holistic over pharmaceutical any day (just like JD Rockefeller did..one of the fathers of the AMA and modern pharmaceutical system, who lived to be 98 with holistic methods).
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02-05-2013, 01:53 PM
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hey gracie can you link the JD Rockefeller holistic medicine info?

i am curious about this. thanks.

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02-05-2013, 01:56 PM
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Google it I read about it in books and it is common knowledge. Holistic medicine was suppressed in the early 20th century by the AMA (Rockelfeller/Rothschilds) since it was too hard to control.
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02-05-2013, 01:56 PM
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(02-05-2013 01:51 PM)Gracie Wrote:  Have you ever tried Meso Silver? I used to take echinacea and I still got sick. I tried Zinc and still got sick. Why was that not a placebo affect? With all due respect doctor..I am not surprised an MD is here trying to debunk everything. That's fine..this is a conspiracy theorist dominated website and everyone here is skeptical of you and how you just popped up here. And skeptical of the whole AMA and the Pharmaceutical companies. You may be an honest doctor with good intentions that really wants to help people but we believe what the AMA has taught you (especially about cancer) is deliberately wrong. That just comes to conspiracy theorists naturally.

If someone gets into a bad car accident..the techology to help them is amazing. But cancer-wise, I will take holistic over pharmaceutical any day (just like JD Rockefeller did..one of the fathers of the AMA and modern pharmaceutical system, who lived to be 98 with holistic methods).

I keep hearing CT's tell me how I'm bought and paid for by pharmaceutical companies. If that's true, someone owes me a ton of money.

I "popped up" here because I came back from an ACEP conference to discover that I had been banned from the OG for no apparent reason. I saw a thread about this place since I've been lurking the forums for the past three days, and thought I'd drop in.

If everything I know is wrong, then all of this should be easy to independently duplicate...right?
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02-05-2013, 01:57 PM
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You know Gracie, I apologize for not having commented on this topic yet.

The stuff you are posting...I really want to take some time to look into it. It's a really important topic IMO.

When I managed a vitamin and sports supplement store...I talked to many people who survived cancer.

Some of the were only given 5-6 months to live by their doctors.

Many of them were buying Noni Juice by the case and still alive years later...still telling their stories.

Another popular product was Essiac Tea.

I'm really interested in some of the new ideas that have come out since then.

Great thread!

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02-05-2013, 01:59 PM (This post was last modified: 02-05-2013 02:04 PM by Daniel Carver.)
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(02-05-2013 01:56 PM)Gracie Wrote:  Google it I read about it in books and it is common knowledge. Holistic medicine was suppressed in the early 20th century by the AMA (Rockelfeller/Rothschilds) since it was too hard to control.

A lot if it was dismissed due the the proliferation of snake oil salesmen killing people with quack cures. The pendulum swung from the side of "anything goes" to "tightly controlled." The one good thing that came out of all of this is requiring independent proof of treatment efficacy, instead of relying on the claims of the salesmen.

I'll admit that I have some bias here. Having to tell a young man that he's going to lose his arm because the infection he tried to self-treat with tea tree oil has now become full blown nec-fac will take off your rose colored glasses very quickly.

Damn...my replies keep on getting added to previous posts.
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02-05-2013, 02:09 PM
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daniel carver, what is your take on food synergy...

i believe this thing makes it more complex to assess medical cures etc.

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02-05-2013, 02:24 PM
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I think there's something to it, to a certain degree. Certain foods do have certain healing properties, and yes, when researching a medication, diet has to be taken into account.
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02-05-2013, 02:32 PM
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(02-05-2013 02:24 PM)Daniel Carver Wrote:  I think there's something to it, to a certain degree. Certain foods do have certain healing properties, and yes, when researching a medication, diet has to be taken into account.

yes.. this food synergy and interdependence or cumulative/combined effect makes it very hard to construct reliable control groups.

when you have this many variables, it is hard to isolate cause/effect etc.

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02-05-2013, 02:42 PM
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02-05-2013, 02:43 PM
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MJ has been used as chinese medicine for centuries.

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02-05-2013, 03:56 PM
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Doc Carver, Im happy to see you posting here
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02-05-2013, 04:14 PM
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it's good to have a doc posting here. he seems to know his stuff.

but i like Gracie's take on alt medicine too.

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02-05-2013, 04:24 PM
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(02-05-2013 04:14 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  it's good to have a doc posting here. he seems to know his stuff.

but i like Gracie's take on alt medicine too.


My comment was not meant as a slight against Gracie.


doc carver was one of my favorite og posters. i am surprised you dont remember his threads about opiate seekers
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