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Martin Luther was a member of the Secretive Rosicrucian Order
07-28-2013, 05:51 PM
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Martin Luther was a member of the Secretive Rosicrucian Order
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Rosicrucianism is symbolized by the Rosy Cross.

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07-28-2013, 06:03 PM
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07-28-2013, 06:05 PM
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Quote:Rosicrucianism is a generic term referring to studies or membership within a philosophical secret society said to have been founded in late medieval Germany by Christian Rosenkreuz. It holds a doctrine or theology "built on esoteric truths of the ancient past", which, "concealed from the average man, provide insight into nature, the physical universe and the spiritual realm."[1] Rosicrucianism is symbolized by the Rosy Cross.
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07-28-2013, 06:08 PM
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Quote:In this study of long neglected Scottish evidence, Stevenson, a Reader in Scottish History
at the University of Aberdeen, pushes the history of freemasonry back a century earlier
than standard accounts. The effect is to de-emphasize the English 18th century
developments, such as the founding of the Grand Lodge in London in 1717, and place the
genesis of this secret fraternity in the context of the Scottish Reformation and the
struggles of the Covenanters. Even further, the fact that the most interesting Mason of the
17th century, Sir Robert Moray, was a Covenanter general, and that one stream of
influence on freemasonry was the hermetic Lutheranism of the Rosicrucians
(which was
present in the military arm of German protestantism) should make us reexamine the goals
and methods of this generation of reformers.

http://www.contra-mundum.org/cm/reviews/tw_masonry.pdf
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07-28-2013, 06:19 PM
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RE: Martin Luther was a member of the Rosicrucian Order
Quote:The Rosicrucian Manifestos were two documents of unknown authorship written in the early 17th century in Europe. They purported to announce the existence of a hitherto unknown esoteric order, the Brotherhood of the Rose Cross, to the world. The Fama Fraternitatis and the Confessio Fraternitatis as they were known, caused an immense furore across Europe with their esoteric imagery and call for a universal spiritual and cultural reformation across the continent. To this day controversy continues whether they were a hoax, whether the Order of the Rose Cross really existed as described in the Manifestos, or whether the whole thing was a metaphor or ludibrium disguising a movement that really existed, but in a different form.
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07-28-2013, 06:55 PM
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RE: Martin Luther was a member of the Secretive Rosicrucian Order
Famed CT researcher William Cooper talks about continued infiltration of the Roman Church. Highly recommended.



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07-28-2013, 07:00 PM
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07-28-2013, 07:12 PM
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(07-28-2013 06:19 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
Quote:The Rosicrucian Manifestos were two documents of unknown authorship written in the early 17th century in Europe. They purported to announce the existence of a hitherto unknown esoteric order, the Brotherhood of the Rose Cross, to the world. The Fama Fraternitatis and the Confessio Fraternitatis as they were known, caused an immense furore across Europe with their esoteric imagery and call for a universal spiritual and cultural reformation across the continent. To this day controversy continues whether they were a hoax, whether the Order of the Rose Cross really existed as described in the Manifestos, or whether the whole thing was a metaphor or ludibrium disguising a movement that really existed, but in a different form.


Oh, they existed alright.

Francis Bacon and Ben Franklin are a couple of well known members.

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07-28-2013, 07:13 PM
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^ yeah. I wonder what Protestants think about this.
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08-01-2013, 07:55 AM
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RE: Martin Luther was a member of the Secretive Rosicrucian Order
EY's auntie arrested? Smile

http://www.wtop.com/109/3404543/Green-pa...-across-DC

"A woman charged with defacing the Washington National Cathedral was carrying what appeared to be a soda can containing green paint when she was arrested, and she has been linked to at least four other incidents of vandalism, including at the Lincoln Memorial, according to prosecutors and court documents.

The woman, who has a Chinese passport, arrived in Washington a few days ago and was traveling on an expired visa, prosecutors said. Police said she had no fixed address but that she told officers she lived in Los Angeles.

According to court documents, the woman is also suspected of vandalizing a statue of Martin Luther on Thomas Circle in downtown Washington, which was also hit with green paint."
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08-01-2013, 10:31 AM
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Would that statue be of Martin Luther, or Martin Luther King?

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08-01-2013, 10:32 AM
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Which raises another question, was MLK intentionally named after an ancient Occultist?

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08-01-2013, 11:34 AM
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RE: Martin Luther was a member of the Secretive Rosicrucian Order
Rose-Cross, the Masonic Lineage


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Golden Cross, and the Rosy Cross appeared. At this time, none of these groups were real parts of Freemasonry. It seems that these groups were not organized together and continued to be isolated from each other for some years after their creation. However, close contacts were initiated between these groups and Freemasons interested in esotericism. In 1757 some Golden and Rosy Cross groups took on a more masonic structure. At this juncture, the relationship between Freemasonry and Rose Cross was only the result of specific individuals who decided to explore and cross pollinate. However, in 1777, one of these circles became a unified group and took the name of The Golden and Rosy Cross of the old system. Its structure was masonic and it was composed of nine high degrees. They required their members to take a strict oath regarding rites and initiations, and they maintained a rigid hierarchical structure. This initiatic group recruited many Freemasons who were interested in the esoteric sciences, such as: Alchemy, Qabalah, and Christian esotericism. The group initiated members of different political affiliations; since they worked in harmony with each other, the group became quite socially influential. Despite this fact that it grew in size very quickly, the Order disappeared approximately nine years after its birth.

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At about this same time in France, a Freemason named Tschoudy devised a new set of degrees which he named Knights of the Rose Cross. These degrees were progressively integrated into other masonic systems, as you can see in the Scottish Rite today.

The next important step in the evolution of this line was the constitution in Scotland of the first Societas Rosicruciana, known as the Societas Rosicruciana in Scotia (S.R.I.S.). This group was directly influenced by the Rose Cross’ publications in Germany. It is difficult to say whether there was a direct link between the two, but they claimed that there was. In 1867 the famous Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia (Society of Rosicrucians in England or S.R.I.A.) was constituted from the S.R.I.S. and the discovery of certain manuscripts in the archives of the Grand Lodge. This order continues to exist today and is the center of all Societas Rosicruciana(s) that have been set up in every country around the world, including those in the United States. Its statements of philosophy are identical everywhere (in every group that is set up using this model) and this is valid evidence of the presence and influence of this line of the Tradition.

The Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia is an independent Christian society. Admission is limited to Master Masons who are subscribing members of a Lodge under the Grand Lodge of England or a jurisdiction in amity with this Grand Lodge and who accept and believe in the fundamental principles of the Trinitarian Christian faith. Even if the affiliation is restricted to the Freemasons, the very restrictive confessional clause is absolutely not in the spirit of what was built by the founders of Freemasonry at its inception. All Masons remember the power of the belief in a Supreme Being without defining Him. This is one of the critical and fundamental elements of Freemasonry; it is a warranty for world peace in our time. That is why this society of The Rose Cross is linked to Freemasonry, but must not be confused with the Rose Cross degrees present within Freemasonry. I am differentiating here between two disparate entities: one inside Freemasonry (R.C. Degrees) and the other outside of that body-(S.R.I.A.).

With this in mind, it is interesting to note that the S.R.I.A. has a very useful set of degrees that utilize the structure of the Qabalistic Tree. Three Orders compose the progression (up the Tree): 1st order: Zelator, Theoricus, Practicus, and Philosophus. 2nd order: Adeptus Minor, Adeptus Major, and Adeptus Exemptus. 3rd order: Magister, and Magus. The society is focused on the practice of the rituals, their Qabalistic studies and the writing of various research papers. These groups are very close to what is called now “research lodges.” Despite this faith’s obligation, the famous magical society called the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn emerged from the S.R.I.A.. The three founders, William Robert Woodman, William Wynn Westcott, and Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers were Freemasons and members of the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia. The complete system was a magical development of the S.R.I.A. system, which attempted to integrate other esoteric elements such as the Enochian magic of John Dee, Agrippa's writings, and, perhaps, some other documents that came from the old German Rose Cross movement. Their hierarchy was built along the same structural lines as Freemasonry. However, as soon as these organizations began initiating women and non-masons, they immediately lost recognition by the Masons, since women cannot be initiated into Freemasonry.

The original S.R.I.A. gave birth to two groups in the United States : 1- The Societas Rosicruciana in America 2- The Societas Rosicruciana in Civitatibus Foederatis (Rosicrucian Society of the United States).

The first group is mostly inactive today. The second group (created in 1880) is still active according to the original tradition of this branch. Among the large number of Masonic allied structures found in the United States, one of them is a society called the Societas Rosicruciana. The 18° degree of the Scottish Rite is called the Knight Rose Cross. This degree is actually connected to symbolic elements of the famous fraternity (the Rose Cross). However, several initiations in Freemasonry also use this name or the symbol of the Rose Cross. Of course none of these degrees pretend to be the heir to the ancient Rose Cross that emerged in the 18th century. Several philosophers and scientists from this time (Paracelsus, Bacon, Fludd, Descartes, Pascal, Spinoza, Newton, Leibniz, John Dee, Elias Ashmole, Robert Fludd, etc.) claimed to be members of the Rose Cross or were associated with this mysterious Order in some way.

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08-01-2013, 01:44 PM
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RE: Martin Luther was a member of the Secretive Rosicrucian Order
(08-01-2013 07:55 AM)Roland Bates Wrote:  EY's auntie arrested? Smile

http://www.wtop.com/109/3404543/Green-pa...-across-DC

"A woman charged with defacing the Washington National Cathedral was carrying what appeared to be a soda can containing green paint when she was arrested, and she has been linked to at least four other incidents of vandalism, including at the Lincoln Memorial, according to prosecutors and court documents.

The woman, who has a Chinese passport, arrived in Washington a few days ago and was traveling on an expired visa, prosecutors said. Police said she had no fixed address but that she told officers she lived in Los Angeles.

According to court documents, the woman is also suspected of vandalizing a statue of Martin Luther on Thomas Circle in downtown Washington, which was also hit with green paint."

LOL. they are calling her the green bandit!~

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08-01-2013, 02:43 PM
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RE: Martin Luther was a member of the Secretive Rosicrucian Order
The Rosicrucian Order is far more covert, and mysterious, than Freemasonry.

The Freemasons even tried to lay claim to a lineage, and introduced the Rose Croix degree into the various Rites.

Rosicrucian historians claim that this is not correct however, and that there is no connection between the two.


Quote:Masonic writers have made many conflicting statements about its origin, some giving it a much higher antiquity than others, but all agree that it is one of the earliest of the higher degrees.

The name has, undoubtedly, been the cause of much confusion in relation to its history, because the Masonic degree of Rose Croix has at times been confused with the kabbalistical and alchemical sect of the “Rosicrucian’s" or "Brothers of the Rosy Cross". In spite of the insidious attempts of several opponents of Masonry to confound the two Orders, there is a great distinction between them. Even their names, a1though somewhat similar in sound are totally different in signification. The Rosicrucian’s, who were alchemists, did not derive their name, like the Rose Croix Masons, from the emblems of the Rose and Cross, but from the Latin “Ros” signifying "dew", which was supposed to be, of all the natural bodies, the most powerful solvent of gold, and "crux", "the cross", a chemical symbol of "Light". Baron Westerode, who wrote in 1784~ suggests that the order was instituted among the Knights Templar in Palestine in the year 1188, and then adds that Prince Edward, the son of Henry III, was admitted into the order in 1196.

The Baron de Gleiche", who was in 1785, the German Secretary of the Philalethan Congress of Paris, says that the Rose Croix and the Masons were united in England under King Arthur. But he has undoubtedly made the fundamental error of messing up Rosicrucianism with the Masonic legends of the Knights of the Round Table, so his assertions are invalid.

Another writer declares that the Rose Croix degree was invented by the Jesuits about the beginning of the 18th. Century to undermine the insidious attacks of the free thinkers on the Roman Catholic religion.

But there is no evidence of this in the history of the Roman Catholic Church. Another writer tells us that there is a tradition among the Masons of Scotland that, after the dissolution of the Templars, many of the knights repaired to Scotland and placed themselves under the protection of Robert Bruce; and that, after the Battle of Bannock burn which took place on St. John the Baptist' s Day ~ June 24th. 1314, the Monarch instituted the Royal Order of Heredom and, knights of the Rosy Cross and established the chief seat at Kilwinning. It seems by no means improbable that the degree of Rose Croix de Heredom may have taken its origin from that Order.

But for all their speculation no one seems able to pinpoint the period when~ and the point where, the Rose Croix degree became a part of Masonry.

One thing we do know for certain. In the year 1747, the Pretender Prince Charles Edward, Bonnie Prince Charlie, established a Chapter in the town of Arras, in France, with the title "Chapitre Primordial de Rose Croix " In the charter of the body the Pretender styles himself "Sovereign Grand Master of the Chapter of Heredom, known under the title of the Eagle and Pelican, and since our sorrows and misfortunes are great, under that of the Rose Croix"

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