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09-12-2021, 08:19 PM
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FACTS. beware of new age deception folks. At an all time high right now




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09-12-2021, 08:37 PM
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finally someone gets it about YOGA
i been on this tip for YEARS


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09-12-2021, 08:38 PM
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HARRY POTTER. SATANIC


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09-12-2021, 08:45 PM
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these people are right fundamentally

however stuff like acupuncture, tai chi, concepts like QI, martial arts ARE NOT OCCULT.
that is taking it way too far.
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09-13-2021, 02:13 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepsis
Quote:Nepsis (or nipsis; Greek: νῆψις) is an important idea in Orthodox Christian theology. It means wakefulness or watchfulness and constitutes a condition of sobriety acquired following a period of catharsis.

Etymology

The term comes from the New Testament's First Epistle of Peter (5:8, νήψατε, γρηγορήσατε. ὁ ἀντίδικος ὑμῶν διάβολος ὡς λέων ὠρυόμενος περιπατεῖ ζητῶν τινα καταπιεῖν — NIV: Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour). There nepsis appears in a verb form, in the imperative mood, as an urgent command to vigilance and awakeness: "be alert and awake".
Context

Perhaps most associated with Orthodox monasticism, innumerable references to nepsis are made in The Philokalia (the full title of The Philokalia being The Philokalia of the Neptic Fathers). Parallels have been drawn between nepsis and Jewish devekut.

Related to asceticism

In Orthodox Christianity, the struggle against the corruption of the passions is conducted through ascetic effort to purify the soul (asceticism from Greek: askesis "exercise"). At the advanced stages this involves "bringing the mind into the heart" ("mind" is a substitution for the tricky-to-translate Greek nous (νοῦς), which here indicates that faculty of the soul by which man enters into communion with God). Purification of the soul, which is achieved only through the help of divine grace, is pursued through one's efforts to fulfill the commandments of Christ, participation in the Holy Mysteries of the Christian Orthodox Church, private prayer including devotion to the Jesus Prayer, fasting according to the Church calendar, study of Holy Scripture and the lives of the saints, and vigilant watchfulness over the thoughts to prevent sinful thoughts from becoming sinful actions, and then passions.

Greek monks have never used the teachings of Plato or any other philosophical system as part of their ascetic labors. While several Greek philosophers including the Neoplatonists formulated theories based on Trinitarian ideas, none of these was ever adopted into Orthodox usage as all are based on rational concepts of a divinity that can ultimately be understood by the human intellect, whereas Orthodox Christian theology is apophatic in nature; this means that although God is personally known and experienced through His divine energies, in His "essence" his incomprehensibility remains absolute. The soul knows God through mystical union, not philosophical speculation. Orthodox theology is the result of divine revelation exclusively. As Vladimir Lossky says, "All that can be said in regard to the platonism of the Fathers … is limited to outward resemblances which do not go to the root of their teaching, and relate only to a vocabulary which was common to the age."

As the Christian becomes purified, in time he reaches the stage of theoria or illumination. At this point, the contemplative life begins. All ascetic practice must be understood as simply the means by which the goal of Christian life is pursued. This is the acquisition of the Holy Spirit, which is called theosis, meaning the "deification" of man. According to St. Athanasius and others, "God became man so that man can become god."
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09-13-2021, 10:00 AM
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AmeriCON Capitalist Materialism has certainly infected Yoga just as it corrupts Christianity but when i consider Rickson Gracie as example then I observe that Yoga seems to have some value as spiritual practice
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09-13-2021, 06:04 PM
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(09-13-2021 10:00 AM)karasu Wrote:  AmeriCON Capitalist Materialism has certainly infected Yoga just as it corrupts Christianity but when i consider Rickson Gracie as example then I observe that Yoga seems to have some value as spiritual practice

Yes. Not all Christian beliefs are good.
I do think generally their "on the ground" morality is better than most religions, esp. when it comes to relationships and treating other people.

I also think spiritual traditions native to a land are authentic as well.
The new age is CORRUPTED because it borrows from all the world's religions, but its fundamental blueprint is satanism.

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09-13-2021, 06:10 PM
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the problem also lies in the fact that many new agers grew up Christian, so the conflicting energy between the two opposing belief systems is a perfect concoction straight out of Satan's cookbook.

I do not think shamans in siberia are engaging in satanism. It's a native belief system that fits their way of life.
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09-13-2021, 06:17 PM
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(09-13-2021 02:13 AM)jho Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepsis
Quote:Nepsis (or nipsis; Greek: νῆψις) is an important idea in Orthodox Christian theology. It means wakefulness or watchfulness and constitutes a condition of sobriety acquired following a period of catharsis.

Etymology

The term comes from the New Testament's First Epistle of Peter (5:8, νήψατε, γρηγορήσατε. ὁ ἀντίδικος ὑμῶν διάβολος ὡς λέων ὠρυόμενος περιπατεῖ ζητῶν τινα καταπιεῖν — NIV: Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour). There nepsis appears in a verb form, in the imperative mood, as an urgent command to vigilance and awakeness: "be alert and awake".
Context

Perhaps most associated with Orthodox monasticism, innumerable references to nepsis are made in The Philokalia (the full title of The Philokalia being The Philokalia of the Neptic Fathers). Parallels have been drawn between nepsis and Jewish devekut.

Related to asceticism

In Orthodox Christianity, the struggle against the corruption of the passions is conducted through ascetic effort to purify the soul (asceticism from Greek: askesis "exercise"). At the advanced stages this involves "bringing the mind into the heart" ("mind" is a substitution for the tricky-to-translate Greek nous (νοῦς), which here indicates that faculty of the soul by which man enters into communion with God). Purification of the soul, which is achieved only through the help of divine grace, is pursued through one's efforts to fulfill the commandments of Christ, participation in the Holy Mysteries of the Christian Orthodox Church, private prayer including devotion to the Jesus Prayer, fasting according to the Church calendar, study of Holy Scripture and the lives of the saints, and vigilant watchfulness over the thoughts to prevent sinful thoughts from becoming sinful actions, and then passions.

Greek monks have never used the teachings of Plato or any other philosophical system as part of their ascetic labors. While several Greek philosophers including the Neoplatonists formulated theories based on Trinitarian ideas, none of these was ever adopted into Orthodox usage as all are based on rational concepts of a divinity that can ultimately be understood by the human intellect, whereas Orthodox Christian theology is apophatic in nature; this means that although God is personally known and experienced through His divine energies, in His "essence" his incomprehensibility remains absolute. The soul knows God through mystical union, not philosophical speculation. Orthodox theology is the result of divine revelation exclusively. As Vladimir Lossky says, "All that can be said in regard to the platonism of the Fathers … is limited to outward resemblances which do not go to the root of their teaching, and relate only to a vocabulary which was common to the age."

As the Christian becomes purified, in time he reaches the stage of theoria or illumination. At this point, the contemplative life begins. All ascetic practice must be understood as simply the means by which the goal of Christian life is pursued. This is the acquisition of the Holy Spirit, which is called theosis, meaning the "deification" of man. According to St. Athanasius and others, "God became man so that man can become god."

very informative.
Also interesting the last quote about man becoming God. In western christian traditions, it is often associated with the new age that man himself can become God.
Would like to look into that more.

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09-14-2021, 12:34 AM
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09-14-2021, 09:59 AM
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RE: The Lies We Buy: Exposing Spiritual Dangers - Sharon Lee Giganti
(09-13-2021 06:04 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 10:00 AM)karasu Wrote:  AmeriCON Capitalist Materialism has certainly infected Yoga just as it corrupts Christianity but when i consider Rickson Gracie as example then I observe that Yoga seems to have some value as spiritual practice

Yes. Not all Christian beliefs are good.
I do think generally their "on the ground" morality is better than most religions, esp. when it comes to relationships and treating other people.

I also think spiritual traditions native to a land are authentic as well.
The new age is CORRUPTED because it borrows from all the world's religions, but its fundamental blueprint is satanism.


I do agree with you that Xianity can be a very good religion. *note* I use the X as I believe it is the ancient symbol of the CHRIST as to differentiate it from CONtemporary Corrupt Capitalism Christianity

what I was trying to express is the shared similar VULGAR influence Capitalism has on Spiritual systems as can be observed in both Yoga and Christianity.

I see Religion(s) as like Philosophy and do not think it wrong if one chooses not to limit themselves and to seek knowledge from various sources which to me can often seem complimentary
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09-14-2021, 10:01 AM
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(09-13-2021 06:10 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  the problem also lies in the fact that many new agers grew up Christian, so the conflicting energy between the two opposing belief systems is a perfect concoction straight out of Satan's cookbook.

I do not think shamans in siberia are engaging in satanism. It's a native belief system that fits their way of life.


I see it that sometimes people have to go out into the world and wonder and when they return home it can be with a better understanding of their own roots
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09-14-2021, 10:09 AM
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(09-13-2021 06:17 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 02:13 AM)jho Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepsis
Quote:Nepsis (or nipsis; Greek: νῆψις) is an important idea in Orthodox Christian theology. It means wakefulness or watchfulness and constitutes a condition of sobriety acquired following a period of catharsis.

Etymology

The term comes from the New Testament's First Epistle of Peter (5:8, νήψατε, γρηγορήσατε. ὁ ἀντίδικος ὑμῶν διάβολος ὡς λέων ὠρυόμενος περιπατεῖ ζητῶν τινα καταπιεῖν — NIV: Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour). There nepsis appears in a verb form, in the imperative mood, as an urgent command to vigilance and awakeness: "be alert and awake".
Context

Perhaps most associated with Orthodox monasticism, innumerable references to nepsis are made in The Philokalia (the full title of The Philokalia being The Philokalia of the Neptic Fathers). Parallels have been drawn between nepsis and Jewish devekut.

Related to asceticism

In Orthodox Christianity, the struggle against the corruption of the passions is conducted through ascetic effort to purify the soul (asceticism from Greek: askesis "exercise"). At the advanced stages this involves "bringing the mind into the heart" ("mind" is a substitution for the tricky-to-translate Greek nous (νοῦς), which here indicates that faculty of the soul by which man enters into communion with God). Purification of the soul, which is achieved only through the help of divine grace, is pursued through one's efforts to fulfill the commandments of Christ, participation in the Holy Mysteries of the Christian Orthodox Church, private prayer including devotion to the Jesus Prayer, fasting according to the Church calendar, study of Holy Scripture and the lives of the saints, and vigilant watchfulness over the thoughts to prevent sinful thoughts from becoming sinful actions, and then passions.

Greek monks have never used the teachings of Plato or any other philosophical system as part of their ascetic labors. While several Greek philosophers including the Neoplatonists formulated theories based on Trinitarian ideas, none of these was ever adopted into Orthodox usage as all are based on rational concepts of a divinity that can ultimately be understood by the human intellect, whereas Orthodox Christian theology is apophatic in nature; this means that although God is personally known and experienced through His divine energies, in His "essence" his incomprehensibility remains absolute. The soul knows God through mystical union, not philosophical speculation. Orthodox theology is the result of divine revelation exclusively. As Vladimir Lossky says, "All that can be said in regard to the platonism of the Fathers … is limited to outward resemblances which do not go to the root of their teaching, and relate only to a vocabulary which was common to the age."

As the Christian becomes purified, in time he reaches the stage of theoria or illumination. At this point, the contemplative life begins. All ascetic practice must be understood as simply the means by which the goal of Christian life is pursued. This is the acquisition of the Holy Spirit, which is called theosis, meaning the "deification" of man. According to St. Athanasius and others, "God became man so that man can become god."

very informative.
Also interesting the last quote about man becoming God. In western christian traditions, it is often associated with the new age that man himself can become God.
Would like to look into that more.


this just popped up on the youtube last night.....a Portland Theologian of all things, fancy that Tongue I gave it a chance and found that this chap grows on you and it was actually pretty good.....it deals what what EY just stated about looking into, the "kingdom of God with/man becomes God" and this fellow gives a good lecture on it!



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09-14-2021, 10:15 AM
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(09-13-2021 02:13 AM)jho Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepsis
Quote:Nepsis (or nipsis; Greek: νῆψις) is an important idea in Orthodox Christian theology. It means wakefulness or watchfulness and constitutes a condition of sobriety acquired following a period of catharsis.

Etymology

The term comes from the New Testament's First Epistle of Peter (5:8, νήψατε, γρηγορήσατε. ὁ ἀντίδικος ὑμῶν διάβολος ὡς λέων ὠρυόμενος περιπατεῖ ζητῶν τινα καταπιεῖν — NIV: Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour). There nepsis appears in a verb form, in the imperative mood, as an urgent command to vigilance and awakeness: "be alert and awake".
Context

Perhaps most associated with Orthodox monasticism, innumerable references to nepsis are made in The Philokalia (the full title of The Philokalia being The Philokalia of the Neptic Fathers). Parallels have been drawn between nepsis and Jewish devekut.

Related to asceticism

In Orthodox Christianity, the struggle against the corruption of the passions is conducted through ascetic effort to purify the soul (asceticism from Greek: askesis "exercise"). At the advanced stages this involves "bringing the mind into the heart" ("mind" is a substitution for the tricky-to-translate Greek nous (νοῦς), which here indicates that faculty of the soul by which man enters into communion with God). Purification of the soul, which is achieved only through the help of divine grace, is pursued through one's efforts to fulfill the commandments of Christ, participation in the Holy Mysteries of the Christian Orthodox Church, private prayer including devotion to the Jesus Prayer, fasting according to the Church calendar, study of Holy Scripture and the lives of the saints, and vigilant watchfulness over the thoughts to prevent sinful thoughts from becoming sinful actions, and then passions.

Greek monks have never used the teachings of Plato or any other philosophical system as part of their ascetic labors. While several Greek philosophers including the Neoplatonists formulated theories based on Trinitarian ideas, none of these was ever adopted into Orthodox usage as all are based on rational concepts of a divinity that can ultimately be understood by the human intellect, whereas Orthodox Christian theology is apophatic in nature; this means that although God is personally known and experienced through His divine energies, in His "essence" his incomprehensibility remains absolute. The soul knows God through mystical union, not philosophical speculation. Orthodox theology is the result of divine revelation exclusively. As Vladimir Lossky says, "All that can be said in regard to the platonism of the Fathers … is limited to outward resemblances which do not go to the root of their teaching, and relate only to a vocabulary which was common to the age."

As the Christian becomes purified, in time he reaches the stage of theoria or illumination. At this point, the contemplative life begins. All ascetic practice must be understood as simply the means by which the goal of Christian life is pursued. This is the acquisition of the Holy Spirit, which is called theosis, meaning the "deification" of man. According to St. Athanasius and others, "God became man so that man can become god."


....and that was good reading jho

"Greek monks have never used the teachings of Plato or any other philosophical system as part of their ascetic labors"

though I am not convinced of this part as I would question if Greek philosophy in fact had some influence on this concept of "ascetic" practices themselves
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09-14-2021, 11:49 AM
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(09-14-2021 10:15 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 02:13 AM)jho Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepsis
Quote:Nepsis (or nipsis; Greek: νῆψις) is an important idea in Orthodox Christian theology. It means wakefulness or watchfulness and constitutes a condition of sobriety acquired following a period of catharsis.

Etymology

The term comes from the New Testament's First Epistle of Peter (5:8, νήψατε, γρηγορήσατε. ὁ ἀντίδικος ὑμῶν διάβολος ὡς λέων ὠρυόμενος περιπατεῖ ζητῶν τινα καταπιεῖν — NIV: Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour). There nepsis appears in a verb form, in the imperative mood, as an urgent command to vigilance and awakeness: "be alert and awake".
Context

Perhaps most associated with Orthodox monasticism, innumerable references to nepsis are made in The Philokalia (the full title of The Philokalia being The Philokalia of the Neptic Fathers). Parallels have been drawn between nepsis and Jewish devekut.

Related to asceticism

In Orthodox Christianity, the struggle against the corruption of the passions is conducted through ascetic effort to purify the soul (asceticism from Greek: askesis "exercise"). At the advanced stages this involves "bringing the mind into the heart" ("mind" is a substitution for the tricky-to-translate Greek nous (νοῦς), which here indicates that faculty of the soul by which man enters into communion with God). Purification of the soul, which is achieved only through the help of divine grace, is pursued through one's efforts to fulfill the commandments of Christ, participation in the Holy Mysteries of the Christian Orthodox Church, private prayer including devotion to the Jesus Prayer, fasting according to the Church calendar, study of Holy Scripture and the lives of the saints, and vigilant watchfulness over the thoughts to prevent sinful thoughts from becoming sinful actions, and then passions.

Greek monks have never used the teachings of Plato or any other philosophical system as part of their ascetic labors. While several Greek philosophers including the Neoplatonists formulated theories based on Trinitarian ideas, none of these was ever adopted into Orthodox usage as all are based on rational concepts of a divinity that can ultimately be understood by the human intellect, whereas Orthodox Christian theology is apophatic in nature; this means that although God is personally known and experienced through His divine energies, in His "essence" his incomprehensibility remains absolute. The soul knows God through mystical union, not philosophical speculation. Orthodox theology is the result of divine revelation exclusively. As Vladimir Lossky says, "All that can be said in regard to the platonism of the Fathers … is limited to outward resemblances which do not go to the root of their teaching, and relate only to a vocabulary which was common to the age."

As the Christian becomes purified, in time he reaches the stage of theoria or illumination. At this point, the contemplative life begins. All ascetic practice must be understood as simply the means by which the goal of Christian life is pursued. This is the acquisition of the Holy Spirit, which is called theosis, meaning the "deification" of man. According to St. Athanasius and others, "God became man so that man can become god."


....and that was good reading jho

"Greek monks have never used the teachings of Plato or any other philosophical system as part of their ascetic labors"

though I am not convinced of this part as I would question if Greek philosophy in fact had some influence on this concept of "ascetic" practices themselves
Glad you enjoyed that. Early church history has become a favorite topic of mine as of late. The Greek Cynics, who weren't fans of Plato may have influenced Orthodox ascetic practices.

Since you seem to be a bit of a history nut like myself, here's something else to further tickle your fancy.

Quote:https://orthodoxwiki.org/Fool-for-Christ
Fool-for-Christ

A saint who has the title Fool-for-Christ is one who is known for his apparent, yet holy, insanity. This title in Russian is Yurodivyi.

Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. (1 Corinthians 3:18-19 KJV)

One form of the ascetic Christian life is called foolishness for the sake of Christ. The fool-for-Christ set for himself the task of battling within himself the root of all sin, pride. In order to accomplish this he took on an unusual style of life, appearing as someone bereft of his mental faculties, thus bringing upon himself the ridicule of others. In addition he exposed the evil in the world through metaphorical and symbolic words and actions. He took this ascetic endeavor upon himself in order to humble himself and to also more effectively influence others, since most people respond to the usual ordinary sermon with indifference. The spiritual feat of foolishness for Christ was especially widespread in Russia. --(Excerpted from The Law of God, Holy Trinity Monastery, Jordanville, NY: 1993)

Saint Andrew of Constantinople is considered to be the first such saint, although Saint Basil of Moscow is also widely known.

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Xenia_of_St._Petersburg
Xenia of St. Petersburg

Our venerable Mother, the Blessed Xenia of St. Petersburg, (Russian: Святая блаженная Ксения Петербургская [Xenia Grigoryevna Petrova]) is an 18th century Russian fool-for-Christ. In grief over the death of her husband, she distributed all her possessions and took up a life as a holy fool. Her life was centered on God, and she sought protection and comfort only in Him while wandering among the poor of St. Petersburg. She is commemorated on September 11.

Little is known of her early life. Neither the dates of her birth nor of her death are known. Her birth is believed to have been about 1731 and her death about 1803.

The wife of Colonel Andrei Feodorovich Petrov, who served as a court chorister, Xenia fell into great grief upon the death of her husband when she was 26 years old. Appearing to have lost her mind from her grief, Xenia distributed her possessions to the poor, and keeping and dressing only in the clothes of her husband she wandered the streets of St Petersburg among the paupers. She called herself by her husband’s name: Andrei Feodorovich. Her life was centered on God, seeking protection and comfort only in Him. During the nights, she refused refuge and went into the fields where she prayed through the nights.

When relatives of Xenia tried to help her with necessities she replied , “I do not need anything.” The people of St. Petersburg came to love her as she placed the Kingdom of Heaven before earthly possessions. The people considered her presence in their homes as good signs. Her acceptance of services and bread from merchants, however small, brought them great sales as their customers, who loved the saintly Xenia, frequented those who helped her.

Xenia possessed the gift of clairvoyance. She foretold the deaths of the Empress Elizabeth, in 1761, and of the imprisoned John IV Antonovich, the great-great-grandson of Tsar Alexis, in 1764. After her death her grave became a place of pilgrimage. Portions of the dirt from her grave brought healing for many of the pilgrims.
Epitaph

The only record of "vital statistics" that has been left to us concerning Blessed Xenia is the epitaph on her gravestone:

In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Here rests the body of the servant of God, Xenia Grigorievna,
Wife of the imperial chorister, Colonel Andrei Theodorovich Petrov.
Widowed at the age of 26, a pilgrim for 45 years,
She lived a total of 71 years.
She was known by the name Andrei Theodorovich.
May whoever knew me pray for my soul that his own may be saved. Amen.

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