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it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
08-31-2021, 07:27 AM
Post: #16
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
20 years down the drain.

To supposedly stop a regime the CIA itself created.

Ridiculous.

This is the end result of the people who fell for the 9/11 narrative.
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08-31-2021, 10:48 AM
Post: #17
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
Turkey is making moves towards support for the Taliban.

https://odysee.com/@theduran:e/erdogan-m...anistan,:5
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08-31-2021, 05:03 PM
Post: #18
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08-31-2021, 06:42 PM
Post: #19
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.




These are grown men in the video, people of the harsh Afghan reality. I guess they are supposed to be kept in a particular mindset because the leadership burned down that amusement park, presumably to prevent the foot soldiers from getting in touch with the happy child like side we all have internally.
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08-31-2021, 10:28 PM
Post: #20
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
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I was watching those bumper cars and saw that nobody was bumping those guys. Then I saw the AK-47s and realized why.
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09-01-2021, 03:52 AM
Post: #21
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
100-200 Americans left behind in Afghanistan after the US military presence has left. The US are depending for the Taliban to keep order and that Americans no be harmed. The Taliban know that if Americans are harmed we would retaliate. But a hostage situation might happen.

Not a sophisticated way to end a war, a war that we were winning or at least stalemating.

Americans, except the soldiers and people who call themselves patriots, will forget, but it will be a long time in the minds of many???!!!
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09-01-2021, 03:53 AM
Post: #22
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The Marines must be fuming they truly believe: don't leave anyone behind!!!
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09-01-2021, 04:23 AM
Post: #23
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
SEE???!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/31/politics/...index.html
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09-01-2021, 04:26 AM
Post: #24
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
Now its the taliban's turn to fight terrorists and extremists.
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09-01-2021, 11:00 AM
Post: #25
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
A detailed analysis of the Anglo-American defeat in Afghanistan in historical context:





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09-01-2021, 11:06 AM
Post: #26
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
Send Borat in to negotiate???!!!
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09-01-2021, 11:11 AM
Post: #27
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
(09-01-2021 11:06 AM)ba_dass Wrote:  Send Borat in to negotiate???!!!

The Pashtuns hate Kazahks BA.

It would be another disaster.
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09-01-2021, 12:05 PM
Post: #28
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
(09-01-2021 03:52 AM)ba_dass Wrote:  100-200 Americans left behind in Afghanistan after the US military presence has left. The US are depending for the Taliban to keep order and that Americans no be harmed. The Taliban know that if Americans are harmed we would retaliate. But a hostage situation might happen.

Not a sophisticated way to end a war, a war that we were winning or at least stalemating.

Americans, except the soldiers and people who call themselves patriots, will forget, but it will be a long time in the minds of many???!!!

Before we know it there will be a new enemy with an evil dictator that we must remove for humanitarian reasons and we'll have a brand new war to talk about. It's inevitable.
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09-02-2021, 11:16 PM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2021 04:01 AM by Rako.)
Post: #29
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How did the Taliban get the equipment to overtake the Afghan army? Is this a manufactured situation? Maybe Pakistan has been helping the Taliban.
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09-03-2021, 04:55 AM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2021 05:45 AM by Rako.)
Post: #30
RE: it's a real mess in Afghanistan right now.
Quote:In April, Biden ordered the Pentagon to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan by Sept. 11, a decision he said was made in lockstep with NATO coalition forces. On Monday, the president defended his decision to leave the country and placed the blame squarely on the Afghan national government.

“American troops cannot and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that Afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves,” Biden said. “We gave them every chance to determine their own future. We could not provide them with the will to fight for that future,” he added.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/16/how-afgh...ickly.html

They picked the Sept 11 date, 20 years of occupation of Afghanistan.

I agree that the Afghan government has blame. Ultimately if the US policy there is to succeed, the Afghan allies of the US would need to take responsibility.

I am thinking that maybe Pakistan shares blame too though as a possible Taliban unofficial ally.

Out of past Democratic officials, Biden was one of the more pro-war ones, and he even supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003.
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