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04-23-2021, 03:39 AM
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(04-22-2021 10:48 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  new flat earth video. FOR REFERENCE ONLY




Yeah that's Dave Murphy, he's the guy from the first video I posted.
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04-25-2021, 02:08 AM
Post: #92
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I'm sold!



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08-31-2021, 12:11 PM
Post: #93
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Pity I missed this discussion when it was going.

I'm not a Flat Earther persay but I have to admit that my mind is open on the subject. We have been fed so much provable disinformation and lies by the Global Authority on the subject, NASA, which was founded by Occultists and Nazis, that I can't accept anything they tell us when it comes to space or the universe.

Flat Earth is not heavily promoted on Youtube, in fact it's quite the opposite. If you search for Flat Earth you are presented with a long list of debunking videos, most of which just quote the text book version that they have been taught to repeat. You really have to dig to find the Pro-Flat Earth videos and people like Eric Dubay's channel has a fact checking disclaimer attached which states that the theory is primitive bullshit. And why do the gatekeepers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson get so abusive when they talk about Flat Earthers, why would he even care if it's such a ridiculous notion?

Then there are the disinfo groups, who's sole aim is to make all Flat Earthers seem like morons. The Flat Earth Society is a shill group that pretends to be Pro-Flat Earth whilst throwing all sorts of Red Herrings into the mix so that thay can easily be ridiculed. Dubay created the 'International Flat Earth Society' which is the legit version, but it never receives any publicity from the mainstream, unlike the phony version. The Flat Earth conventions are also made as a distraction, much like the crazy UFO conventions. Real Flat Earthers are rarely found at these events.

As I said, I'm not a Flat Earther, but I'm also not a believer in the footage of space that NASA give us. Anyone that thinks the Moon Landings were faked and who knows we are told a bunch of lies by the establishment, should have an open mind about other possibilities about our planet and the universe.
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08-31-2021, 12:28 PM
Post: #94
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This is a typical debunking video. Michelle Thaller is a NASA scientist and gatekeeper.






Listen to her tell us that "Believing in Flat Earth is NOT OKAY"...WTF?

If I choose to believe that the world is carried on a huge Turtle's back, or that the Earth is pyramid shaped, or that Unicorns are real, then it's OKAY to think that. What right does this NASA Nazi have to tell me what is OKAY to believe?

Her main argument for debunking the FE idea is that:

"Some of her friends have orbited the Earth, and they told her that it's a sphere."

Not very scientific is it?

And

"We have seen pictures of the Earth and it's a sphere"

Yes, but all of those pictures are montages made up of many smaller images, and photo shop and CGI is used to "enhance" them, NASA admit this, so why does she try to use those doctored images as proof of anything?

NDGT has used the "we have pictures" argument as well.

AS I said, why do all of the gatekeepers, including NDGT, Bill Nye and Michio Kaku care so much about what some people choose to believe, why does it matter so much?

Kaku even links Flat Earthers to Anti Vaxxers using some bizarre psuedo psychology.







Kaku has attacked 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists in the same manner, calling them dangerous and a threat to society.


So, the main thing that makes me wonder about Flat Earth, is that all of the establishment shills and gatekeepers of the truth, are all frothing at the mouth in order to try and discredit the idea.
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08-31-2021, 01:34 PM
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flat earthers are Cass Sunstein's children
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08-31-2021, 01:59 PM
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(08-31-2021 12:28 PM)Redneck Wrote:  So, the main thing that makes me wonder about Flat Earth, is that all of the establishment shills and gatekeepers of the truth, are all frothing at the mouth in order to try and discredit the idea.

Their job is to couple 9-11 and anti covid vaxx and pretty much all other conspiracy theories with flat earth so that if you bring up any conspiracy theory to the politically illiterate you can be dismissed as a "flat earther".
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08-31-2021, 03:17 PM
Post: #97
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(08-31-2021 01:59 PM)rezin Wrote:  
(08-31-2021 12:28 PM)Redneck Wrote:  So, the main thing that makes me wonder about Flat Earth, is that all of the establishment shills and gatekeepers of the truth, are all frothing at the mouth in order to try and discredit the idea.

Their job is to couple 9-11 and anti covid vaxx and pretty much all other conspiracy theories with flat earth so that if you bring up any conspiracy theory to the politically illiterate you can be dismissed as a "flat earther".


Yes I get that, UFOs, Aliens, Bigfoot and Flat Earth are all used to group real conspiracies in with the out there stuff. That being said, ever since the Church changed from imprisoning people who said the Earth was a Globe, to telling everyone that it was actually a Globe after all, the Flat Earth theory hs been the subject of ridicule and mockery. Rather strange when a Flat Earth is the core belief of almost every major religion, and was the more popular belief of millions of people for thousands of years.

I know that we can argue that people were less educated back then, and more likely to believe poorly thought out ideas, but it wasn't until Columbus supposedly proved that the Earth was a sphere with his voyage to America, that the narrative really began to change. There are a lot of things about the official Columbus story that are questionable, so once again I'm not convinced.

The rest of it comes down to mathematical formulae, all of which makes assumptions about the distance of the Sun to the Earth, and requires theories such as gravity, to make them work. Neither of which has been proven 100%, in my opinion.


Someone asked about Solar and Lunar Eclipses, and the shadow of Earth that is cast on the moon. The modern science theory is that it relies on all three globes to be perfectly aligned in some sort of universe synergy that seems almost impossible. Flat Earth researchers suggest that the shadow is caused by something known as the Black Sun, which is talked about in most Eastern religions. They talk about how the Black Sun "eats" the regular Sun, and there are many old carvings and statues that depict this. There has been many discssions here about the Black Sun, and whilst not pertaining to the Flat Earth theory, clearly many alternate history researchers believe in the existence of such an entity.


The Vedas depict the Black Sun as the Demon Rahu.

[Image: rahu-with-sun-750x330.jpg]

Personally I find the whole subject fascinating, and I find the arguments from the leaders in FE research to be very compelling, and often making more sense than the theories from Globist science.


But at the end of the day, I love a good conspiracy theory, and this one is right up there when it comes to making me think outside the box, or the Globe.

I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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08-31-2021, 03:38 PM
Post: #98
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In regards to a solar eclipse, NDGT now says that the Earth is Pear shaped, so shouldn't we be seeing a shadow of a Pear on the Moon?

[Image: ndgtpear.png]
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08-31-2021, 03:50 PM
Post: #99
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Tho I love the Discworld series by Pratchett, I think the whole flat earth stuff is quite silly.

If someone actually wanted to know if the earth really was flat any one of these flat earth societies could gather enough funds for a plane flight over the edge by now.

Or can they not calculate where that edge actually is and they can't fly over it.

Like so many other things out there flat earth reeks of being some intelligence service or some secret society project.

I'll borrow a quote from really cool poster on this site, that had this to say about such things.

(10-07-2020 05:18 PM)rezin Wrote:  The forum is conspiracy/politics oriented but has a wide variety of topics for everyone.

And our conspiracy angle is different from other places.

For most "proper presentable people" conspiracy theories are silly marginal things and they would just laugh them off. But life being life, if a person wants to understand how the world works then he has to cross the conspiracy theory barrier. And once a person crosses that barrier, man do they have conspiracies for you. Chem trails, flat earth, ancient aliens, reptiles and on and on it goes.

In a sense conspirology performs a dissolving function, diffusing peoples attention.

This site attempts to see beyond what's "presentable and proper" and at the same time cut through diffusive conspiracy theories.

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08-31-2021, 04:22 PM
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^^^^ Many people have attempted to travel to the edge, or the Ice Wall as FEs call it. Antarctica is a no go zone and ownership of it is divided up into several nations, Argentina, Australia, Chile, France, New Zealand, Norway and the United Kingdom. Unless you have permission from the respective nation, then you can't get close to it. Any private expeditions are stopped and the people either turned around, or arrested.

The only people that go there are scientists and Government workers with high security clearance. Even then, those people just get taken to a section of it, and have no clue that it's not what they are told, a big upside down continent at the base of the world.

No doubt there has been Government planes or helicopters that have at least been able to see over the wall, but the information does not get released to the public.

Maybe it's just millions of miles of ice, for as far as the eye can see. Or maybe there's another Earth on the other side, with people wondering what is on this side. Big Grin
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08-31-2021, 04:25 PM
Post: #101
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(08-31-2021 03:50 PM)rezin Wrote:  Tho I love the Discworld series by Pratchett, I think the whole flat earth stuff is quite silly.

If someone actually wanted to know if the earth really was flat any one of these flat earth societies could gather enough funds for a plane flight over the edge by now.

Or can they not calculate where that edge actually is and they can't fly over it.

Like so many other things out there flat earth reeks of being some intelligence service or some secret society project.

I'll borrow a quote from really cool poster on this site, that had this to say about such things.

(10-07-2020 05:18 PM)rezin Wrote:  The forum is conspiracy/politics oriented but has a wide variety of topics for everyone.

And our conspiracy angle is different from other places.

For most "proper presentable people" conspiracy theories are silly marginal things and they would just laugh them off. But life being life, if a person wants to understand how the world works then he has to cross the conspiracy theory barrier. And once a person crosses that barrier, man do they have conspiracies for you. Chem trails, flat earth, ancient aliens, reptiles and on and on it goes.

In a sense conspirology performs a dissolving function, diffusing peoples attention.

This site attempts to see beyond what's "presentable and proper" and at the same time cut through diffusive conspiracy theories.




Cool quote, who is that guy?


And I agree. The beauty of this forum is that we can kick around any ideas, as crazy as they may or may not be, without being cancelled, labelled a derogatory name, or censored by fact checkers.

I don't believe in a lot of the stuff discussed here over the years but I find the topics and the discsussions about the pros and cons, very intrigiung.

I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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08-31-2021, 04:29 PM
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What happened to Icecap?

Did the non-believers run him off?
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08-31-2021, 06:21 PM
Post: #103
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(08-31-2021 04:22 PM)Redneck Wrote:  ^^^^ Many people have attempted to travel to the edge, or the Ice Wall as FEs call it. Antarctica is a no go zone and ownership of it is divided up into several nations, Argentina, Australia, Chile, France, New Zealand, Norway and the United Kingdom. Unless you have permission from the respective nation, then you can't get close to it. Any private expeditions are stopped and the people either turned around, or arrested.

It's one thing to patrol something that has the circumference of Antarctica:

[Image: NOAAClimategov_Antarctica_locator_map_620.jpg]

It's another to patrol something with the circumference of the Earth:

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How many people are involved in patrolling such a huge perimeter that even a jet can not break thru? How are people stopped and arrested flying on a jet.

The only way to stop a plane in that scenario would be to shoot it down. If someone really wanted to, nothing would stop them from flying over the "ice wall". They don't want to.

Also I don't think the church was imprisoning people for believing the Earth was a globe, but for believing that the Earth revolves around the Sun.

(08-31-2021 04:25 PM)Redneck Wrote:  Cool quote, who is that guy?

IT'S MEE!!!!!!!

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08-31-2021, 07:21 PM
Post: #104
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"How many people are involved in patrolling such a huge perimeter that even a jet can not break thru? How are people stopped and arrested flying on a jet."


Picture a Pie Chart, and each of the seven countries has it's piece of the pie, that they are responsible for.

Add in the 6 other countries that have been given permission to do 'research' there, India, Italy, Russia, Pakistan, Ukraine and the United States, and you have a lot of military power for patrols. Jets, like all planes, are subject to flight paths which they must submit before flying, if they go off course they risk being intercepted by the Military and being directed back on course, or shot down. And just how many people are trying to fly Jets to Antarctica anyway? It's not like there are Armies of people attempting to get to the Ice Wall and check it out, so it's not really a problem for them. Most ships also have designated routes that they don't deviate from, and as mentioned previously, the people that have attempted to go there in ships without permission have been intercepted and stopped from proceeding any further.



"The only way to stop a plane in that scenario would be to shoot it down. If someone really wanted to, nothing would stop them from flying over the "ice wall". They don't want to."

Like I said, look at the countries that are gaurding it, who are these Jet pilots that you are talking about? You think a Flat Earther Billionaire might fund such a mission? He probably knows that the plane would have no chance of getting past Russian, US, UK or even Indian and Pakistani military resources.




"Also I don't think the church was imprisoning people for believing the Earth was a globe, but for believing that the Earth revolves around the Sun."


That's debatable, I think that's a modern take on it.
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