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Khabib vs Gaethje
10-26-2020, 04:33 AM
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Khabib vs Gaethje
Bar the first 90 seconds of (only) feinting and circling, what a great fight this was!

Gaethje lands a few shots, I know I saw Khabib's jaw get jacked at one point.

Khabib barely tries for a takedown, but then gets one rather easily at the end of the round, and before you can blink, he is mounted on Gaethje and trying to rip his arm off.

With another 30 seconds to work it, he probably finishes it right there.

Next round Khabib pounces on the first mistake, takes Gaethje down again, Gaethje thinks he has sprawled out of SOMETHING, but actually he has just given up his back! Again Khabib is in mount within 15 seconds, this time he shows off the triangle choke from mount (at least applying it from mount).

Wow. What a fighter. Or of course you could say Khabib ain't that great and that Gathje being a 'good' wrestler (in MMA) is a fraudulent statement.
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10-26-2020, 12:38 PM
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RE: Khabib vs Gaethje
(10-26-2020 04:33 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Wow. What a fighter. Or of course you could say Khabib ain't that great and that Gathje being a 'good' wrestler (in MMA) is a fraudulent statement.

You know, the pre-fight analysis most people made was correct. Gaethje was very dangerous, showed his sprawl and brawl and landed some hard shots on Khabib.

One thing was overlooked and another was a mistake by Gaethje.
-- The oversight was that Gaethje has no BJJ. Did worse than any of Khabib's UFC opponents from his back. Handed the back and the mount to Khabib freely, then offered Khabib his arm in trade for top position.
-- The mistake was Gaethje only throwing high, looping shots; hooks and overhands to the head that Khabib could easily dip underneath. Uppercuts and knees could have caught Khabib coming in. Jabs could have kept him at range. Body shots would have kept his hands low and able to dig underhooks. Compare to Al Iaquinta who stood in a long, low stance and flicked out jabs.
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10-26-2020, 03:28 PM
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RE: Khabib vs Gaethje
I thought he retired?
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10-27-2020, 02:38 AM
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RE: Khabib vs Gaethje
(10-26-2020 12:38 PM)kungfool Wrote:  
(10-26-2020 04:33 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Wow. What a fighter. Or of course you could say Khabib ain't that great and that Gathje being a 'good' wrestler (in MMA) is a fraudulent statement.

You know, the pre-fight analysis most people made was correct. Gaethje was very dangerous, showed his sprawl and brawl and landed some hard shots on Khabib.

One thing was overlooked and another was a mistake by Gaethje.
-- The oversight was that Gaethje has no BJJ. Did worse than any of Khabib's UFC opponents from his back. Handed the back and the mount to Khabib freely, then offered Khabib his arm in trade for top position.
-- The mistake was Gaethje only throwing high, looping shots; hooks and overhands to the head that Khabib could easily dip underneath. Uppercuts and knees could have caught Khabib coming in. Jabs could have kept him at range. Body shots would have kept his hands low and able to dig underhooks. Compare to Al Iaquinta who stood in a long, low stance and flicked out jabs.

Yeah i think Gaetje could be more dangerous if he would establish the knee when Khabib shoots. Also the lowkicks did much effect with Khabib.

You just can't go and fight a guy like Khabib without using strategy. You have to find a way to keep him at distance and take away his strenght. Lowkicks, knees and staying out of the clinch range is one way.

I think Gaetje did fine in the first round. Should have thrown the lowkick more and also be more effective with it. there where lots of moments where he could finished a combo off with a lowkick and get back to a safe distance

Overall Khabib is a beast. The way he crawled on Gaetjes back in seconds was impressive but his standup lacked this match

You have to be ready for the shoot and know when it might come. But before that you should try to slow Khabibs movements and create the threath with a knee

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10-27-2020, 10:16 AM
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RE: Khabib vs Gaethje
(10-26-2020 03:28 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  I thought he retired?

Khabib is retired now.

Will only consider a superfight with GSP, but as it hasn't been offered YET, and UFC doesn't want the belt to be on the line (it won't even be at 155) he retired.

Probably around this time next year, if ever.
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10-27-2020, 10:19 AM
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RE: Khabib vs Gaethje
(10-27-2020 02:38 AM)Glimmer Wrote:  
(10-26-2020 12:38 PM)kungfool Wrote:  
(10-26-2020 04:33 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Wow. What a fighter. Or of course you could say Khabib ain't that great and that Gathje being a 'good' wrestler (in MMA) is a fraudulent statement.

You know, the pre-fight analysis most people made was correct. Gaethje was very dangerous, showed his sprawl and brawl and landed some hard shots on Khabib.

One thing was overlooked and another was a mistake by Gaethje.
-- The oversight was that Gaethje has no BJJ. Did worse than any of Khabib's UFC opponents from his back. Handed the back and the mount to Khabib freely, then offered Khabib his arm in trade for top position.
-- The mistake was Gaethje only throwing high, looping shots; hooks and overhands to the head that Khabib could easily dip underneath. Uppercuts and knees could have caught Khabib coming in. Jabs could have kept him at range. Body shots would have kept his hands low and able to dig underhooks. Compare to Al Iaquinta who stood in a long, low stance and flicked out jabs.

Yeah i think Gaetje could be more dangerous if he would establish the knee when Khabib shoots. Also the lowkicks did much effect with Khabib.

You just can't go and fight a guy like Khabib without using strategy. You have to find a way to keep him at distance and take away his strenght. Lowkicks, knees and staying out of the clinch range is one way.

I think Gaetje did fine in the first round. Should have thrown the lowkick more and also be more effective with it. there where lots of moments where he could finished a combo off with a lowkick and get back to a safe distance

Overall Khabib is a beast. The way he crawled on Gaetjes back in seconds was impressive but his standup lacked this match

You have to be ready for the shoot and know when it might come. But before that you should try to slow Khabibs movements and create the threath with a knee

Gaethje was ready for a shot for about 4:30 minutes in that first round.

Khabib's genius is in not even going for it, if he isn't gonna get it.

And the leg kicks might have worked, but ultimately it was off a leg kick that Khabib timed his takedown.

Devastating MMA instincts.

As for jabs, it obviously isn't Gaethje's style. He has always been the guy to absorb a jab to land a hook.

There was never a chance to land a knee on Khabib coming in either. He timed the takedowns off either Gaethje circling or off a kick.

And it only took 2 takedowns to finish the fight.

That Gaethje was somehow ahead on 2 scorecards shows the fraud that is MMA judging.

You end the round in a deep armbar (or at least moments from it) and you 'win the round'? On what planet?
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10-28-2020, 12:38 AM
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RE: Khabib vs Gaethje
(10-27-2020 10:19 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  
(10-27-2020 02:38 AM)Glimmer Wrote:  
(10-26-2020 12:38 PM)kungfool Wrote:  
(10-26-2020 04:33 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Wow. What a fighter. Or of course you could say Khabib ain't that great and that Gathje being a 'good' wrestler (in MMA) is a fraudulent statement.

You know, the pre-fight analysis most people made was correct. Gaethje was very dangerous, showed his sprawl and brawl and landed some hard shots on Khabib.

One thing was overlooked and another was a mistake by Gaethje.
-- The oversight was that Gaethje has no BJJ. Did worse than any of Khabib's UFC opponents from his back. Handed the back and the mount to Khabib freely, then offered Khabib his arm in trade for top position.
-- The mistake was Gaethje only throwing high, looping shots; hooks and overhands to the head that Khabib could easily dip underneath. Uppercuts and knees could have caught Khabib coming in. Jabs could have kept him at range. Body shots would have kept his hands low and able to dig underhooks. Compare to Al Iaquinta who stood in a long, low stance and flicked out jabs.

Yeah i think Gaetje could be more dangerous if he would establish the knee when Khabib shoots. Also the lowkicks did much effect with Khabib.

You just can't go and fight a guy like Khabib without using strategy. You have to find a way to keep him at distance and take away his strenght. Lowkicks, knees and staying out of the clinch range is one way.

I think Gaetje did fine in the first round. Should have thrown the lowkick more and also be more effective with it. there where lots of moments where he could finished a combo off with a lowkick and get back to a safe distance

Overall Khabib is a beast. The way he crawled on Gaetjes back in seconds was impressive but his standup lacked this match

You have to be ready for the shoot and know when it might come. But before that you should try to slow Khabibs movements and create the threath with a knee

Gaethje was ready for a shot for about 4:30 minutes in that first round.

Khabib's genius is in not even going for it, if he isn't gonna get it.

And the leg kicks might have worked, but ultimately it was off a leg kick that Khabib timed his takedown.

Devastating MMA instincts.

As for jabs, it obviously isn't Gaethje's style. He has always been the guy to absorb a jab to land a hook.

There was never a chance to land a knee on Khabib coming in either. He timed the takedowns off either Gaethje circling or off a kick.

And it only took 2 takedowns to finish the fight.

That Gaethje was somehow ahead on 2 scorecards shows the fraud that is MMA judging.

You end the round in a deep armbar (or at least moments from it) and you 'win the round'? On what planet?

Yeah you are right. To establish a good lowkick game it needs lots and lots of practice and nimble footwork. Gaetje wasn't up to it to pull that true. He did fine but needed to do more

Same holds for the knee threat. You are right again. Khabibs timing was just better

But believe me that even Khabib wouldn't "just' shoot when he is expecting a knee. The key is timing and technique. Again.. Gaetje wasn't up to that

Like Khabib has established the threat of a takedown. Anyone facing Khabib needs to establish a short and fast knee, good jabs and a solid lowkick to maybe stand a chance against him

When you get on the ground with khabib its a whole different game

When that happens you should have layed the groundwork chopping up his legs and some headshots so you have a slight chance

If you are not up to that. It's game over

I expressed my dislike of Khabib in the Conor fight because how he acted after. But he is a formidable fighter (on the ground)

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10-28-2020, 06:38 AM
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RE: Khabib vs Gaethje
Before the Conor fight, Connor and his thugs attacked the UFC bus with Khabib inside. Attacked the bus WITH WEAPONS.

Not Conor alone. His gang of thugs too.

He also insulted: Khabib's family. Khabib's religion (not drinking alcohol, for eg.). And Khabib's nation.

For a conservative, those are three 'no-no's. You cannot insult a man's family and expect to get away with it. You cannot insult a man's faith and get away with it. And you definitely can't insult a man's culture and heritage, his land, and his people, and expect to get away with it.

This whole idea of "he should be the bigger man" completely overlooks exactly how egregious Conor's conduct was, in the lead up to that fight. He is lucky Khabib let go of the choke (sorry, 'neck crank') period.
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10-28-2020, 08:56 AM
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RE: Khabib vs Gaethje
Khabib never shoots from the outside or with his head low, so it's true that Knee's aren't the answer.

What Khabib does is walks forward with his head up and a loose guard, baits his opponent throw power-shots (hooks, rear-straights and overhands), then times the duck. He'll sometimes do 2-3 weaves with his head before he finds the advantageous angle and level-changes for the takedown.

As others noted, leg-kicks don't control the distance. They're better for punishing opponents who are stationary, running away or shelling up and not very useful for keeping someone from walking forward.

Uppercuts could work, but there is no silver bullet.
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10-29-2020, 04:34 PM
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RE: Khabib vs Gaethje
(10-27-2020 10:16 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  
(10-26-2020 03:28 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  I thought he retired?

Khabib is retired now.

Will only consider a superfight with GSP, but as it hasn't been offered YET, and UFC doesn't want the belt to be on the line (it won't even be at 155) he retired.

Probably around this time next year, if ever.

Thanks for the info. Not that interested in khabib. Fight style is very efficient but not very entertaining or stylish.

he is made for the UFC wrestlebox format

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10-31-2020, 03:53 AM (This post was last modified: 10-31-2020 03:58 AM by Glimmer.)
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Khabib vs Gaethje
Khabib is speaking out to French president Macron about his remarks that Islam has to be reformed with the case of the recent beheadings

I will post a insta pic soon

Boy did he make a drop again..

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How can you talk like that after “your people” are responsible for the killing of 2 innocent people..

Islam, religion of peace

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11-02-2020, 02:04 PM
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I'm no fan of the Charlie Hebdo style 'cartoons' myself. Extremely sacreligeous.

I would punch the guy in the nose, probably, if it was some pic of Jesus being desecrated (some degenerate sex act for e.g.), but I wouldn't behead him.
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