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who has heard of black pink? Black pink's inflated youtube views
06-30-2020, 12:37 PM
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who has heard of black pink? Black pink's inflated youtube views
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Quote:To avoid getting the views "frozen or getting overlapped views filtered out" , Blackpink's music videos are posted under "People & Blog " category instead of "Music" category.


Currently, the music videos with low views are under "People&Blog" category and those with more views have switched to "Music" category.

This is the major reason why their views are increasing drastically and also have very few freezes and deduction.


This trick was highly condemned by various netizens who also pointed out that this was the media-play done by YG for them to enter American Market.


But unfortunately , their views are majorly from SouthEast Asian countries such as Thailand and Indonesia.

This creates doubt as to if BlackPink can succeed in the Western Music Industry
and is also believed that if they get caught for manipulation,it would bring them down only to be called as cheaters.


It is also reported that music groups with high views such as BTS, TWICE , EXO and so on have their videos under "Music" category only .

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2018/12/...in-youtube

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06-30-2020, 12:40 PM
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Quote:Major music companies are allegedly spending tens of thousands of dollars to boost view counts on the world’s largest streaming service.

How the companies are doing it, though, is entirely legal on YouTube, thanks to a type of Google advertising that one digital marketer describes as “the legit way of juicing streams.” Three sources with knowledge of major-label marketing campaigns say that Universal Latin and Latin labels in the Sony system have been spending aggressively to boost the views on new videos. The companies might shell out between $20,000 and $60,000 in the first 24 hours and up to $100,000 in extreme cases; in some scenarios, this can result in more than 12 million additional views for a new song.

Sony Latin, Universal Latin, and YouTube all declined to comment.

“There is definitely money being spent on views,” says Tomas Cookman, founder and CEO of the independent Latin label Nacional. “Is it fair to pay to have all those perceived views on a video? Probably not. But any time there’s a system, there’s going to be some manipulation of that system. And whoever tells you there isn’t is probably doing it.”


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Gaming view-counts often takes place through what are called TrueView ads. These are not designed specifically for music companies — corporations like Geico can pay for them, too. But artists and labels figured out that the ads function as a “safe and sanctioned way to help your view-count up inside of the YouTube system,” according to one Latin label employee.

The principle behind TrueView ads is simple: An artist pays to have his video run as an advertisement in front of other videos. Say, for example, that J Balvin and Bad Bunny want to promote their “Que Pretendes” video in Chile and Argentina. If they paid for TrueView ads, YouTube users in those countries would encounter a shortened version of the “Que Pretendes” clip before whatever other video they wanted to watch.

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06-30-2020, 12:40 PM
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Since EY didn't even post a video for us...



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06-30-2020, 12:41 PM
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RE: who has heard of black pink? Black pink's inflated youtube views
so basically they are running ads and counting them as views before legitimate videos.

I also think Youtube is basically just adding view counts to Kpop videos for geopolitical purposes.

These numbers are not believable. Very few western people like Kpop.

Eastern Euro yes, SE asian yes, China y es, Japan yes.. but American girls into Kpop? NOT VERY MANY
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06-30-2020, 12:45 PM
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Quote:YouTube’s fake view problem is practically as old as the site itself. Viewbots were wreaking havoc on YouTube as early as 2009, and by 2011 the problem had gotten bad enough to attract media attention. Back then, fake views were easy to buy, but they were also easy to spot: YouTube still gave the public access to individual video statistics, which would indicate whenever, say, 5,000,000 random views happened to appear from one source.

YouTube’s latest algorithm appears to weigh views paired with interactions — in the form of a like or comment — much more heavily. Buying likes doesn’t remedy this, as — even if both services are bought from the same panel — they won’t come from the same IP address as the views. As fool-proof of a system as this may seem, viewbotters appear to have already found a workaround. They’re called “non-drop views” or “real views” (though they’re not actually, you know, real), and panel owners claim they’re able to game the algorithm. It’s possible to compare engagement (i.e. likes and comments) to view totals, but that’s hardly a science. Since viewbotters have managed to stay ahead of the curve, and YouTube no longer gives access to video statistics, we are even more in the dark than ever about what is actually popular, and what is being forced into the cultural conversation through manipulation.

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06-30-2020, 12:47 PM
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(06-30-2020 12:40 PM)pilgrim Wrote:  .
Since EY didn't even post a video for us...




very bad music. BTS has bad music too.

BTS I actually think some overseas asians like it thereby giving the illusion of Kpop being popular with WHITE PEOPLE.

The reality is most white people don't know BTS or BLACKPINK or if they do it's related to some news story like "BTS fans RUIN TRUMP RALLY"

Kpop is like a slightly cleaner mirror of US pop.. and it used for psychological operations against asian people as a whole.

KPOP has been used as a psychological warfare weapon, against North Korea. So there is documented usage of KPOP as a psyop.

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06-30-2020, 01:14 PM
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Didn't 'Kpop fans' tweet en masse the other day, to mock and silence white people complaining about BLM?

And they (white ppl) were trying to get #WhiteOutWednesday trending, but instead it just showed Kpop stars/tweets?

All bots, obviously.
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06-30-2020, 01:42 PM
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(06-30-2020 12:47 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 12:40 PM)pilgrim Wrote:  .
Since EY didn't even post a video for us...




very bad music. BTS has bad music too.

BTS I actually think some overseas asians like it thereby giving the illusion of Kpop being popular with WHITE PEOPLE.

The reality is most white people don't know BTS or BLACKPINK or if they do it's related to some news story like "BTS fans RUIN TRUMP RALLY"

Kpop is like a slightly cleaner mirror of US pop.. and it used for psychological operations against asian people as a whole.

KPOP has been used as a psychological warfare weapon, against North Korea. So there is documented usage of KPOP as a psyop.

Quote:very bad music.

I suspect music is not the main attraction there?
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06-30-2020, 01:47 PM
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RE: who has heard of black pink? Black pink's inflated youtube views
What can I say? The Korean language is not made for singing.

(06-24-2020 08:12 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  Music is dying..

the vibration is too low in the world.

low vibrations all around and people are not tuned to music as much.

music has become wallpaper.

(I'm quoting this here to leave the other thread for music only.)

There will always be great underground or independent music in some quantity. Music has always been a wallpaper to most people. I don't know many people (now or ever) who actually sit down and listen to music. Usually it either when driving a car, or doing their homework, jogging, playing video games or whatever else. People don't make a distinction between listening and hearing.

That's how it has been for a long time but with the internet taking off some other things entered the equation. Like reading people's comments on everything. It's bad enough for real talent to read reviews and interviews about things, but the constant flow of opinions just compounds the problem. An artist should express themselves without pandering to any group of people, regardless if it's a large mainstream audience or some small niche fringe.

There is also the problem with over saturation. Quasi competent musicians hear a great obscure tune, and then start imitating the surface effects thus producing what sounds like it should tick all the boxes but actually just wears out the style of that type of music. Youtube is flooded with such music including the underground independent scene.

From a listeners perspective listening to music on the internet provides a very poor experience. It's very hard to get into a song that doesn't have an immediately catchy tune, because you need to get your dopamine fix by clicking on something. If the computer is on, it's very hard to even listen to the radio cause the computer is just beaming at you: "Go on, click on something, you know you want to."

The best way to listen to music is alone, at night with the lights out. Earths magnetic field is different at night and that affects brain waves, sharpening the senses.

Though you have to wonder with a criteria like that, how many people would keep listening to the music they think they like.

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07-02-2020, 10:36 AM
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Lip syncing here is terrible and the dancing isn't even remotely interesting. Band Maid, Lovebites, and Babymetal are far superior bands.
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07-02-2020, 10:48 AM
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(06-30-2020 01:47 PM)rezin Wrote:  What can I say? The Korean language is not made for singing.

(06-24-2020 08:12 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  Music is dying..

the vibration is too low in the world.

low vibrations all around and people are not tuned to music as much.

music has become wallpaper.

(I'm quoting this here to leave the other thread for music only.)

There will always be great underground or independent music in some quantity. Music has always been a wallpaper to most people. I don't know many people (now or ever) who actually sit down and listen to music. Usually it either when driving a car, or doing their homework, jogging, playing video games or whatever else. People don't make a distinction between listening and hearing.

That's how it has been for a long time but with the internet taking off some other things entered the equation. Like reading people's comments on everything. It's bad enough for real talent to read reviews and interviews about things, but the constant flow of opinions just compounds the problem. An artist should express themselves without pandering to any group of people, regardless if it's a large mainstream audience or some small niche fringe.

There is also the problem with over saturation. Quasi competent musicians hear a great obscure tune, and then start imitating the surface effects thus producing what sounds like it should tick all the boxes but actually just wears out the style of that type of music. Youtube is flooded with such music including the underground independent scene.

From a listeners perspective listening to music on the internet provides a very poor experience. It's very hard to get into a song that doesn't have an immediately catchy tune, because you need to get your dopamine fix by clicking on something. If the computer is on, it's very hard to even listen to the radio cause the computer is just beaming at you: "Go on, click on something, you know you want to."

The best way to listen to music is alone, at night with the lights out. Earths magnetic field is different at night and that affects brain waves, sharpening the senses.

Though you have to wonder with a criteria like that, how many people would keep listening to the music they think they like.
fab post rezin!

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07-02-2020, 11:12 AM
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saw it in a recent youtube ad.

the girls are skinny and dance like stick figures.

not sexy
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07-02-2020, 12:22 PM
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it's mostly hype.

the majority of kpop fans or females overseas.. and they prefer male idols over female MOST OF THE TIME
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07-02-2020, 02:27 PM
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one thing i noticed about chinese and korean, is they rarely know how to be 'sexy'

yes, they can look hot, but they dont have the body motion
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