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the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
02-25-2020, 04:19 PM
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the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
a necessary case of Action/Reaction or are "the people" being played and it's all an impressive manipulation of the masses?

and I also do not really understand the wingNUT finger-pointing as if one is any more moral/corrupt than the other.

and even though I have heard each side express the wrong in the other I can also find something likeable about each of those POTUS mentioned

there were times that Bush could present a youthful humor like his African Dancing

Bill Clinton seemed to be good for global relations

I believe that Obama faced a lot of HATE for the wrong reasons yet seemed to endeavor to take the high-road instead of becoming bitter and I believe that he made effort to engage with average people as an equal. I remember watching some interview of a young man of undecided vote which said how after meeting all the candidates it was that personal interaction with Obama which determined his vote.

then there is Trump's mischief which I find refreshingly entertaining and good for a daily chuckle. Also I have read how when walking the grounds of his estate he will randomly give $$$ to his peasant workers and yes, it's smart scheming, but still cool.


I try to listen to the arguments of each side and understand why they feel the way they do about the other.......and I also try to see what is good too, which can be easier to do when enjoying the view sitting atop the fenceTongue
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02-25-2020, 04:22 PM
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RE: the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
and to expand on "necessary Action/Reaction".....I mean was each a necessary reaction to the prior POTUS.......example, Obama a reaction to Rumsfeld/Cheney......and Trump a reaction to "deplorables" and "uneducated whites"
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02-25-2020, 04:26 PM
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RE: the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
just listening to the Warren Buffett CNBC interview in the background and I think he said how during his time investing there have been 7 Republican and 7 Democrat Presidents if I heard correctly.

This provides example data of the Action/Reaction Pendulum theory.
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02-26-2020, 05:58 AM
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RE: the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
for 8 years I observed my Republican friends crying about this and that and how miserable they were about it and then when Trump was elected I saw my Liberal friends suffering it as a traumatic experience just as those Republicans I had observed and I realized that I did not wish to be a kool-aid drinking wingNUT and allow such a thing to have power over me and when my Liberal friends questioned me I said I will support the decision same as how I supported the decision when Obama was elected.

I had some friendships turn sour during the time of Obama and the same during the time of Trump because I would not show some blind allegiance or opposition.

Maybe Trump will be impeached or win a 2nd term and if so I will support that decision....or maybe a Democrat will win and I will support that decision. I just try to flow with the go Big Grin
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02-26-2020, 06:08 AM
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RE: the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
This is the Humanity I am speaking, there may be some imperfection yet there is also something likeable too.....maybe Trump will eventually join this group one day. The vitriolic wingNUTS HATE each-other yet look how their Leaders come together in good fellowship in the end:

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02-26-2020, 06:19 AM
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RE: the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
we need more Coming Together instead of need for Confirmation Bias. People need to really try and listen, to understand why "communist" Bernie/Yang Gang feel the way they do.....why "uneducated whites" and "deplorables" voted Trump......do people have some reasonable cause for how they have chosen their representation?

"we the people" should follow the smart example in the above photos and come together in good fellowship Big Grin
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02-26-2020, 06:30 AM
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RE: the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
You know you are on a 'conspiracy'/truth site, right?

Do you even read what other people post?
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02-26-2020, 06:44 AM
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RE: the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
(02-26-2020 06:30 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  You know you are on a 'conspiracy'/truth site, right?

Do you even read what other people post?

I always admire your patience. Smile
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02-26-2020, 08:33 AM
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RE: the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
(02-26-2020 06:30 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  You know you are on a 'conspiracy'/truth site, right?

Do you even read what other people post?


yes, TRUTH, very good! when we understand then nature of Humanity we can understand TRUTH.

We can see that it's not so simple as "Black/White" and that we are a complex creature yet when we study the WHOLE then we can better inspire manifesting the potential for the GOOD in us.

I am proposing shedding the narrow minded "Libtard/Republitard/Commie/Conspiratard" kool-aid thinking which only divides the People and prevents a higher intellectual contemplation of our complex humanity. As observed in those photos, the peasantry needs to cultivate a capability for learning to respect differences in thinking and how maintain composure without resorting to vulgar insults and attacks.

Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton are imperfect men which represent an idea. It's a finger/moon. We should not worship the man and if evidence is presented of corruption and immorality then we should not turn a blind-eye in idol-worship yet we should try to understand why "the People" voted for that idea. We should focus on more on the hearing the Idea and less accusation/support of the Idol.

I believe that like the rest of us, there is Good/Bad in Trump, Bush, Obama, Clinton not one really so different from the other.....but the difference being that the power and position they possess which if given to any average fellow is going to be too powerful a temptation to his desires and why I would never wish to have ambition for such position and so try to understand how there is going to be some level of corruption in that industry, though not saying I condone it, just that I understand the temptation and corruption in relation to our human nature.

Take the High-Road friends....."be the Change"!
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02-26-2020, 08:40 AM (This post was last modified: 02-26-2020 08:42 AM by karasu.)
Post: #10
RE: the Humanity of Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.....
also, I need give some mention to POTUS Carter, he was a bit before my time but the "Habitat 4 Humanity" endeavor is very inspiring!

....and I also found POTUS Reagan's interest in Alienology to be a respectably unifying measureBig Grin
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