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after watching these 120 lb guys
01-16-2020, 04:30 PM
Post: #1
after watching these 120 lb guys
I can't really go back to watching 155 and up people anymore


too slow and goofy at this point

Naoya Inoue, Tenshin Nasukawa, Manny etc.

movement is so optimal

anyone else feel the same way?

i think 120-145 is the right range at this point

Those who know, know! Big Grin
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01-17-2020, 04:14 AM
Post: #2
RE: after watching these 120 lb guys
Small guys are fun the watch but I think that's because we're looking at it from a different perspective.

The general public will always prefer watching bigger fighters.

I can see your point though. Small guys are fun because they rarely rely on wearing down or overpowering an opponent.

Fast pace. Technical. Fun to watch.
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01-17-2020, 11:34 AM
Post: #3
RE: after watching these 120 lb guys
it wasn't always the case.. there was a time when the smaller guys had trouble KOing each other.

it seems like the new breed of smaller fighter is P4P more powerful now.. h ence you know you could get a KO anytime even at 120 lbs!

i remember watching 120 guys back in the day and nothing would ever happen, not enough power. but now the power is there.

I used to think 155 was the most optimal but these people look slow now

perhaps it's also because of weight cutting.. maybe people that were supposed to be 145-155 are now cutting down to 130 or below
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01-19-2020, 06:53 AM
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RE: after watching these 120 lb guys
all of nature's animals can be exciting in their own way....the rhinos, the lemurs, the jaguars, the squirrels, each one has its unique attributes which are fascinating to observe

I do believe that there should be more equality in pay. if combat-sport only catered to elephants then it would lose a significant interest in participation and with that a negative impact to profits.

one reason for the popularity of combat sport is that it is truly a sport for "the People" of ALL shapes and sizes offering participation potential for everyone, an excellent example of social equality Big Grin
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01-23-2020, 06:40 AM (This post was last modified: 01-23-2020 06:42 AM by kungfool.)
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01-23-2020, 07:06 AM
Post: #6
RE: after watching these 120 lb guys
that's not correct, but funny meme

The movement is a lot more fluid down at these weights

they also have enough KO power which wasn't really the case before.
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01-28-2020, 05:38 AM
Post: #7
RE: after watching these 120 lb guys
Watching elites and good match ups is what counts. I don't really like watching the Mighty Mouses, Dillashaws, etc of MMA. Very fast, very technical, but finishes are still very rare. Would be interesting to see the stats.

But I don't like seeing a McGregor/Cerrone matchup much either. I had to sort of suspend disbelief to even think Cerrone had a chance, and then, after 15 seconds of the fight, I couldn't even suspend that disbelief any more.

Still think MMA needs a Legends Division. Don't want to see the old guys lose to young guys (when they should have retired already), but seeing them scrap against each other is great.
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01-28-2020, 07:02 AM
Post: #8
RE: after watching these 120 lb guys
the lighter guys in MMA are not that fun to watch AGREED

but in boxing or kickboxing it's amazing

they have the KO power now and they move so quick, technical and smooth

it makes it harder to watch the heavier guys.
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01-29-2020, 12:43 AM
Post: #9
RE: after watching these 120 lb guys
I think the optimal weight to KO/Action is around 155/180 LBS or 70/85kg

Any lighter, still spectaculair but way less power and KO's

At around 70 to 85 kg you have speed, power and explosiveness. Anything above becomes a lot slower

the heavyweight and then i mean in the glory days of K1 had also spectaculair fights and match ups. Sluggers like Sefo, Hunt, Botas against technicians like Hoost, Feitosa and Schilt and everything in between like a Le Banner, Bonjasky Musashi

But from a technical perspective i enjoyed the K1 Max the most

This is a brutal example of speed, power, viciousness at around 70 kg





Man i miss these days


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01-29-2020, 03:13 AM
Post: #10
RE: after watching these 120 lb guys
K1 Max guys from then would be fighting in the 130-140 range today with the massive weight cutting shenanigans going on

70KG used to be my optimum weight

but now I'm leaning more towards 60-65 kg due to the weight cutting issue.
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02-11-2020, 09:02 PM
Post: #11
RE: after watching these 120 lb guys
there is just zero percent chance fights like these could even be rigged.

amazing action



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