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America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
11-29-2019, 07:13 PM
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RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
(11-29-2019 11:00 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  the Chinese were put into that position in the first place due to western encroachment, colonization etc.

Prior to western engagement, China was a self sufficient empire called the QING DYNASTy

then the brits pumped the whole country full of drugs and raped it dry

then the rockefellers and the NWO instituted COMMUNISM which led to mass starvation and the cultural revolution

so yes, in a way everything can be blamed on the west, and i'm no libtard.

So it's America's fault that the Chinese consume Tiger penis? Confused
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11-29-2019, 07:21 PM
Post: #17
RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
(11-29-2019 09:32 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  it's demand caused by GLOBALIZATION of MARKETS and MODERN WESTERN TRANSPORT

so whatever non-western countries are doing is caused by the western model

You've got this totally wrong.

The Demand is created by the Chinese (TCM + Chinese cultural attitudes) while the Supply is created by poachers (usually 3rd worlders that simply don't care).

You're literally shifting the blame onto the White man for improving boats.
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11-30-2019, 04:20 AM
Post: #18
RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
(11-29-2019 07:21 PM)kungfool Wrote:  
(11-29-2019 09:32 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  it's demand caused by GLOBALIZATION of MARKETS and MODERN WESTERN TRANSPORT

so whatever non-western countries are doing is caused by the western model

You've got this totally wrong.

The Demand is created by the Chinese (TCM + Chinese cultural attitudes) while the Supply is created by poachers (usually 3rd worlders that simply don't care).

You're literally shifting the blame onto the White man for improving boats.

If we are going to talk about 'the west', I have no problem talking about the negative aspects, as long as we include the positive aspects as well (unlike a certain thread on this forum).

I mean, holding up the Qing Dynasty as the height of civilization is certainly an interesting hill to die on. The same dynasty that populated the palace with eunuchs, and where women had to mutilate themselves and practically cripple themselves with footbinding?

Now, the Opium wars were certainly one of the most despicable chapters ever written in world history, but how many people in 'the west' had anything at all to do with that? It was literally a handful of extremely wealthy families and some SKull & Bones Yalies.
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11-30-2019, 02:30 PM
Post: #19
RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
(11-29-2019 07:21 PM)kungfool Wrote:  
(11-29-2019 09:32 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  it's demand caused by GLOBALIZATION of MARKETS and MODERN WESTERN TRANSPORT

so whatever non-western countries are doing is caused by the western model

You've got this totally wrong.

The Demand is created by the Chinese (TCM + Chinese cultural attitudes) while the Supply is created by poachers (usually 3rd worlders that simply don't care).

You're literally shifting the blame onto the White man for improving boats.

TCM within CHina, MIGHT deplete the internal market.. but GLOBAL TRADE enforced by the west assures that CHINESE DEMAND affects wildlife/animals beyond Chinese borders.

to satisfy global/Chinese demand created by the modern industrial system.. the earth gets far more depleted than when countries were more ISOLATIONIST.

that is my main point.

the West pried open the world's markets, hence nations DEPLETE more than they need for themselves to satisfy WORLD DEMAND.

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11-30-2019, 02:32 PM
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RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
(11-30-2019 04:20 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  
(11-29-2019 07:21 PM)kungfool Wrote:  
(11-29-2019 09:32 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  it's demand caused by GLOBALIZATION of MARKETS and MODERN WESTERN TRANSPORT

so whatever non-western countries are doing is caused by the western model

You've got this totally wrong.

The Demand is created by the Chinese (TCM + Chinese cultural attitudes) while the Supply is created by poachers (usually 3rd worlders that simply don't care).

You're literally shifting the blame onto the White man for improving boats.

If we are going to talk about 'the west', I have no problem talking about the negative aspects, as long as we include the positive aspects as well (unlike a certain thread on this forum).

I mean, holding up the Qing Dynasty as the height of civilization is certainly an interesting hill to die on. The same dynasty that populated the palace with eunuchs, and where women had to mutilate themselves and practically cripple themselves with footbinding?

Now, the Opium wars were certainly one of the most despicable chapters ever written in world history, but how many people in 'the west' had anything at all to do with that? It was literally a handful of extremely wealthy families and some SKull & Bones Yalies.

I'm not holding up the QING as the height of civilization although at the time it was on par with the west and was the largest economy in the world.

What i'm saying is that the modern WESTERN INDUSTRIAL system has wreaked havoc upon all nations and cultures.. it has destroyed diversity and the environment. how can this be denied?

i'm not blaming WHITE PEOPLE .. I am blaming the WESTERN MODEL.

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11-30-2019, 05:15 PM
Post: #21
RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
(11-30-2019 02:32 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(11-30-2019 04:20 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  
(11-29-2019 07:21 PM)kungfool Wrote:  
(11-29-2019 09:32 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  it's demand caused by GLOBALIZATION of MARKETS and MODERN WESTERN TRANSPORT

so whatever non-western countries are doing is caused by the western model

You've got this totally wrong.

The Demand is created by the Chinese (TCM + Chinese cultural attitudes) while the Supply is created by poachers (usually 3rd worlders that simply don't care).

You're literally shifting the blame onto the White man for improving boats.

If we are going to talk about 'the west', I have no problem talking about the negative aspects, as long as we include the positive aspects as well (unlike a certain thread on this forum).

I mean, holding up the Qing Dynasty as the height of civilization is certainly an interesting hill to die on. The same dynasty that populated the palace with eunuchs, and where women had to mutilate themselves and practically cripple themselves with footbinding?

Now, the Opium wars were certainly one of the most despicable chapters ever written in world history, but how many people in 'the west' had anything at all to do with that? It was literally a handful of extremely wealthy families and some SKull & Bones Yalies.

I'm not holding up the QING as the height of civilization although at the time it was on par with the west and was the largest economy in the world.

What i'm saying is that the modern WESTERN INDUSTRIAL system has wreaked havoc upon all nations and cultures.. it has destroyed diversity and the environment. how can this be denied?

i'm not blaming WHITE PEOPLE .. I am blaming the WESTERN MODEL.
I think you mean WESTERN BANKING system, which isn't really Western but Babylonian. The Christian West actually looked down upon usury & speculation. But progress doesn't happen fast enough for professional gamblers when people self-finance.

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11-30-2019, 05:17 PM
Post: #22
RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
yeah but the problem with CHRISTIANITY, which I am sympathetic too is that it is identical to the NWO/LIBERAL AGENDA because it tries to apply UNIVERSALITY to all humans on earth
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11-30-2019, 08:50 PM
Post: #23
RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
(11-30-2019 04:20 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Now, the Opium wars were certainly one of the most despicable chapters ever written in world history, but how many people in 'the west' had anything at all to do with that? It was literally a handful of extremely wealthy families and some SKull & Bones Yalies.


And the British-Dutch owned East India company which has literally existed for hundreds of years. Eventually commisioned by Elizabeth the 1st in 1600.

Officially the company, which had it's own army that was larger than the British army, and had conquered much of Asia. Just dissolved in the 1770s, never to be seen again.

I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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12-01-2019, 04:41 AM
Post: #24
RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
(11-30-2019 05:17 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  yeah but the problem with CHRISTIANITY, which I am sympathetic too is that it is identical to the NWO/LIBERAL AGENDA because it tries to apply UNIVERSALITY to all humans on earth

Trying to save people's souls is the same as enslaving their bodies and minds, and destroying faith in God, nations, and the family unit?

I think most Christians have sort of given up evangelizing, unless someone literally asks you for help.

It is just Anti-Papa Francis that is trying to merge the world's religions. And that is because he IS NWO.
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12-01-2019, 06:48 AM
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RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
Go to Google Books and look up "New World Order." Most of the oldest books that show up (early 20th century) will be about Christian churches putting aside differences and adopting communism.
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12-01-2019, 12:23 PM
Post: #26
RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
The same people that brought us man made religions, also brought us man made ideologies.


All of which are forms of control and a set of rules by which the follower must abide by.


The NWO's new religion is a mix of nature worship and hedonism, bound together by the ropes of communism.

It's designed to appeal to the billions of people who say that they don't believe in God, or religion.


Ever notice how a self-identified atheist will often argue that there is no God, more passionately than a religious person will argue that there is a God? Career atheists such as Richard Dawkins come to mind. Their belief that there is no God, is really no different to a religious person's belief that there is. Both are belief systems based on emotional and spiritual feelings.
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12-01-2019, 01:32 PM
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RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
good post prof
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12-02-2019, 06:45 AM
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RE: America Founded by Freemasons/Occult? DEBUNKED!
When I first became an atheist I did so with a religious furor. Now I rarely get into debates about it. It's boring. I don't think there's been any new arguments, for or against, in a hundred years.
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12-02-2019, 07:09 AM
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