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U.S. Senate Unanimously Passes Hong Kong Democracy Bill, Drawing China’s Ire
11-22-2019, 03:12 AM
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(11-22-2019 02:04 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(11-22-2019 01:39 AM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 11:36 PM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 04:40 PM)Skookum Charlie Wrote:  The Chinese want democracy and the US have mastered the art of spreading democracy far and wide.

Seems like a marriage made in heaven.

I think people want freedom, and democracy is one way they can get to that. It's the closest thing to self-rule that seems to work even though it can become broken over time.

Democracy with Chinese characteristics?

I'm not sure what that means, with Chinese characteristics?
I think people want freedom in some way shape or form. What do you think diet butcher? What do you think is driving the people of Hong Kong right now?

Just playing on the "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" which the CCP claims to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_...cteristics

TBH, I think the protesters are kinda naive and misguided. But, this whole debacle exposed the HK government for what they are and now there is absolutely no trust or respect for them anymore. Either there needs to be a complete overhaul of the authorities, or Beijing will have to replace the HK population with mainlanders.
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11-22-2019, 04:48 AM
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(11-22-2019 03:12 AM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  Just playing on the "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" which the CCP claims to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_...cteristics

TBH, I think the protesters are kinda naive and misguided. But, this whole debacle exposed the HK government for what they are and now there is absolutely no trust or respect for them anymore. Either there needs to be a complete overhaul of the authorities, or Beijing will have to replace the HK population with mainlanders.

Somehow I don't think they will be able to replace the HKers as quietly as they have tried to replace the Uighurs and get rid of Falun Gong.
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11-22-2019, 08:41 AM (This post was last modified: 11-24-2019 01:47 AM by canuckster.)
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(11-22-2019 01:39 AM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 11:36 PM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 04:40 PM)Skookum Charlie Wrote:  The Chinese want democracy and the US have mastered the art of spreading democracy far and wide.

Seems like a marriage made in heaven.

I think people want freedom, and democracy is one way they can get to that. It's the closest thing to self-rule that seems to work even though it can become broken over time.

Democracy with Chinese characteristics?
Democlacy!

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11-22-2019, 08:41 AM
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(11-22-2019 08:41 AM)canuckster Wrote:  
(11-22-2019 01:39 AM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 11:36 PM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 04:40 PM)Skookum Charlie Wrote:  The Chinese want democracy and the US have mastered the art of spreading democracy far and wide.

Seems like a marriage made in heaven.

I think people want freedom, and democracy is one way they can get to that. It's the closest thing to self-rule that seems to work even though it can become broken over time.

Democracy with Chinese characteristics?
Democlacy!

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11-22-2019, 01:39 PM
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11-24-2019, 09:24 PM (This post was last modified: 11-24-2019 09:24 PM by The Diet Butcher.)
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Avi is back!

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11-24-2019, 10:00 PM
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The only way that I can see the protesters getting what they want is if China allows Hong Kong to be a sovereign country of it's own. And I don't see that happening.
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11-25-2019, 04:00 PM (This post was last modified: 11-25-2019 04:02 PM by The Diet Butcher.)
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The media here kept saying the "silent majority" did not support the protests and supported the govt and police.

Well, the silent majority has spoken. Landslide victory for the pro-dems. Don't know if this will mean anything other than that the "silent majority" are NOT pro CCP.



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11-28-2019, 12:06 PM
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Trump signed the bill.


Trump signs bill supporting Hong Kong protesters despite strong opposition from China


President Trump on Wednesday signed the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act after it was passed by the Senate and House earlier this month.

Trump’s signature comes as Hong Kong continues to be gripped by turmoil amid widespread discontent over Chinese rule in the special administrative region. Chinese officials had hoped Trump would veto the bill and the president had expressed some concerns about complicating the effort to work out a trade deal with China's President Xi Jinping.

"Look, we have to stand with Hong Kong," Trump said in an interview on "Fox & Friends" last week. He continued: "But I'm also standing with President Xi. He's a friend of mine. He's an incredible guy."

"The act reaffirms and amends the United States-Hong Kong Policy Act of 1992, specifies United States policy towards Hong Kong, and directs assessment of the political developments in Hong Kong,” Trump said in a statement.

He added: “Certain provisions of the Act would interfere with the exercise of the President's constitutional authority to state the foreign policy of the United States. My administration will treat each of the provisions of the Act consistently with the president's constitutional authorities with respect to foreign relations.”

Contined: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-s...e-to-china
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11-28-2019, 06:10 PM
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U.S. Senate Unanimously Passes Hong Kong Democracy Bill, Drawing China’s Ire
Lots of triggered Wumaos (ccp trolls) today. [Image: f5f7ec52f4a3e7ac0bc68a69492753c2.jpg]

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11-28-2019, 10:36 PM
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11-29-2019, 10:37 AM
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Hong Kong protestors hold a Thanksgiving Day demonstration to thank the U.S. after President @realDonaldTrump signed bills to back them over Beijing
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12-04-2019, 12:23 AM
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China bars U.S. military ships, aircraft from Hong Kong, sanctions U.S.-based NGOs

* Measures a response to U.S. legislation on Hong Kong

* China urges U.S. to stop "interfering" in internal affairs

* Human Rights Watch among the NGOs targeted (Adds comment from U.S. State Department official)

BEIJING, Dec 2 (Reuters) - China on Monday banned U.S. military ships and aircraft from visiting Hong Kong and slapped sanctions on several U.S. non-government organisations for allegedly encouraging anti-government protesters in the city to commit violent acts.

The measures were a response to U.S. legislation passed last week supporting the protests which have rocked the Asian financial hub for six months. It said it had suspended taking requests for U.S. military visits indefinitely, and warned of further action to come.

"We urge the U.S. to correct the mistakes and stop interfering in our internal affairs. China will take further steps if necessary to uphold Hong Kong's stability and prosperity and China's sovereignty," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a news briefing in Beijing.

China last week promised it would issue "firm counter measures" after U.S. President Donald Trump signed into law the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, which supports anti-government protesters in Hong Kong and threatens China with sanctions for human rights abuses.

There are fears that the dispute over Hong Kong could impact efforts by Beijing and Washington to reach a preliminary deal to de-escalate a prolonged trade war between the world's two largest economies.

In more normal times, several U.S. naval ships visit Hong Kong annually, a rest-and-recreation tradition that dates back to the pre-1997 colonial era and one that Beijing allowed to continue after the handover from British to Chinese rule.

"We have a long track record of successful port visits to Hong Kong, and we expect that to continue," said a U.S. State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

"False accusations of foreign interference" against the U.S. NGOs "are intended to distract from the legitimate concerns of Hongkongers," the official said.

Pentagon spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Dave Eastburn said port visits to Hong Kong and elsewhere around the world served as a useful programme to "provide liberty for our sailors and expand people-to-people ties with our hosts".

"With regard to the ongoing protests, we condemn the unjustified use of force and urge all sides to refrain from violence and engage in constructive dialogue," he said in a statement.

A U.S. defence official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said China's move would not have an impact on U.S. military operations.

Visits have at times been refused amid broader tensions and two U.S. ships were denied access in August.

The USS Blue Ridge, the command ship of the Japan-based Seventh Fleet, stopped in Hong Kong in April – the last ship to visit before mass protests broke out in June.

Foreign NGOs are already heavily restricted in China, and have previously received sharp rebukes for reporting on rights issues in the country, including the mass detention of Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang.

The U.S.-headquartered NGOs targeted by Beijing include the National Endowment for Democracy, the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, the International Republican Institute, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House.

"They shoulder some responsibility for the chaos in Hong Kong and they should be sanctioned and pay the price," Hua said. (Reporting by Cate Cadell and Beijing Monitoring Desk.

https://news.yahoo.com/1-china-suspends-...03390.html
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12-04-2019, 01:16 AM
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^ all the whores in Wanchai are disappoint.

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12-04-2019, 02:41 AM
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(12-04-2019 01:16 AM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  ^ all the whores in Wanchai are disappoint.

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Probably not as disappointed as the ship full of sailors/marines.
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