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How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
10-10-2019, 05:29 AM (This post was last modified: 10-10-2019 05:29 AM by karasu.)
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How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
while the Euros enjoy AFFORDABLE BigGov HealthCare and Free Access to Higher Education plus MORE Vacation-time to Travel ABROAD, USA Americans enjoy some wageSLAVERY so that BIG BAIL-OUT PREDATORY INSURANCE Companies like AIG can enjoy the benefits of Corrupt Capitalism while the peasantry wageSLAVES chant MAGA Good Socialism Bad....



"More Americans say they'd give up vacation days if their boss paid off their student loans"-----


https://www.businessinsider.com/american...dent-loans
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10-10-2019, 05:37 AM
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and so that no one gets a wrong impression I am not in favor of FULL socialism but believe that it does have its place of position in certain sectors for the benefit of the PEOPLE
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10-10-2019, 05:42 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
When was the last time you were in Europe, Karasu?
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10-10-2019, 05:46 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
(10-10-2019 05:42 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  When was the last time you were in Europe, Karasu?

I have multiple Euro friends. None of them seem to be complaining about their AFFORDABLE HealthCare/Education or Longer Vacation times
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10-10-2019, 05:50 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
(10-10-2019 05:46 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(10-10-2019 05:42 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  When was the last time you were in Europe, Karasu?

I have multiple Euro friends. None of them seem to be complaining about their AFFORDABLE HealthCare/Education or Longer Vacation times

They ever complain about the price of a car, or gas prices, or food prices, or furniture? Socialism doesn't stop at health care and 'free' tuition.

There are problems with capitalism, yes, but it needs reform, not revolution. Socialism was hijacked by Communists well over 100 years ago.

It may have had noble aims initially, but those days are long gone.
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10-10-2019, 05:57 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
(10-10-2019 05:50 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  
(10-10-2019 05:46 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(10-10-2019 05:42 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  When was the last time you were in Europe, Karasu?

I have multiple Euro friends. None of them seem to be complaining about their AFFORDABLE HealthCare/Education or Longer Vacation times

They ever complain about the price of a car, or gas prices, or food prices, or furniture? Socialism doesn't stop at health care and 'free' tuition.

There are problems with capitalism, yes, but it needs reform, not revolution. Socialism was hijacked by Communists well over 100 years ago.

It may have had noble aims initially, but those days are long gone.


actually they are quite happy in their Euro-lives. Some of my closest friends are Euros, one for example, a Swiss-German Christian woman stayed my home for 3 months. I also have a close friendship with a French Muslim woman and a fiery Italian fem. It's always good to have options Big Grin

of course there are male friendships too. They enjoy to visit during their LONG holidays but do not desire to live in the USA and prefer their socialist system that affords them the opportunity to TRAVEL ABROAD without having to worry about MEDICAL BANKRUPTCY based PREDATORY INSURANCE Capitalist system.
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10-10-2019, 05:59 AM
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also I have no sexual relationship with those women, only pure friendship of moral support and communication. They are good women.
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10-10-2019, 06:03 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
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I think the problem is that when countries go socialist they start to fall apart. Look at Nicaragua for example.
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10-10-2019, 07:13 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
The problem is when you start looking at government to solve all problems.

Most of the time, the most beneficial thing government can do is just get out of the way.

Look at high drug prices. Sure, it seems like government should step in and fix it, but really, they could just STEP OUT OF THE WAY and allow other manufacturers to discover the same formula (aspirin, viagra, etc.) and that would lower the cost DRAMATICALLY just through competition.
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10-10-2019, 07:19 AM
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Are we talking about socialism or just socialized medicine?
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10-10-2019, 07:25 AM
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(10-10-2019 07:19 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  .
Are we talking about socialism or just socialized medicine?

Karasu keeps talking about health care, so I just used it as an example.
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10-10-2019, 07:38 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
I went by the thread title but yeah it looks like he mainly is talking about healthcare.
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10-10-2019, 07:40 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
"Socialism means free shit."-Liberals

Average Europeans pay half their income to the government in taxes.

I don't think liberals understand the meaning of the word free.
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10-10-2019, 08:20 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
i can tell you one thing.. Europeans don't worry or ponder about going to the doctor when they get sick

Americans have COPAY, deductibles etc. and don't get the care they need due to cheaper insurance plans having HUGE deductibles

the US medical system is one big fat complete joke

there is no justification for the prices

ZERO, except for SATANIC GREED
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10-10-2019, 11:20 AM
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RE: How Long will Americans keep telling themselves Socialism is bad?
The care you get in America is the best in the world. Our quasi-socialist system of paying for the care, however, is a complete disaster. Health insurance isn't insurance in any meaningful sense. It's simply a way of redistributing costs for everyday expenses. Our failed Medicare/Medicaid system pays doctors 80% of whatever they ask. It costs a billion dollars to get drugs through the FDA testing system and then pharma companies have a fairly short time period where they have a monopoly on the drug. Furthermore foreign countries negotiate prices with American companies, so America companies jack up prices on Americans to make up for the low profit margins. American citizens are subsiding drug prices for the rest of the world! Medical lawsuits are also completely out of control with juries handing out massive payouts which cause doctors' medical insurance to be ridiculous. The AMA also keeps the number of doctors artificially low. It's run by doctors and has a monopoly on medical licensing so they have a huge financial incentive to undersupply the country with doctors.
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