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Joker is an amazing movie
10-09-2019, 07:02 PM
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Joker is an amazing movie
I wasn't even aware of this movie until it's release and I thought it would just be another comic book origin movie but I was pleasantly surprised, it is a cinematic masterpiece.

The MSM has been going out of it's way to discredit the movie, to the point where it has been attempting to incite a mass shooting at a cinema by constantly warning us that it will happen.

The movie is compelling and I was riveted from start to finish. Phoenix is brilliant as the title character.


The MSM has also labelled it a white supremacist movie, a pro-trump movie, a movie for white incels, and just about every other predictable label you can think of.

It is of course none of those things, but because it doesn't fit the progressive narrative, it has been attacked by the establishment.


Here is the trailer, and a couple of good reviews.

**WARNING** The reviews contain Spoilers.
















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10-09-2019, 07:59 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
This is how CNN reviewed it. Somehow they managed to equate it to Trump being impeached.

The writer is Jeff Yang, and he's making fun of other people for having sexless lives, this is his pic.


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Quote:'Joker' -- a political parable for our times

(CNN)"Joker," the Todd Phillips movie that reimagines the origins of Batman's killer-clown nemesis, opened this weekend to record-setting box office -- fueled by deft marketing and some of the most polarizing critical reaction of any mass-market film in decades.

Further fueling the hype around the movie: A shocking Golden Lion win at the Venice International Film Festival and a joint bulletin from the FBI and Department of Homeland Security warning about online threats of mass shootings at "Joker" screenings.

Set in a very thinly disguised New York City, Phillips's version of the Joker story has as its protagonist Arthur Fleck, a middle-aged, working-class man who lives with his invalid mother. Fleck works as a clown for hire while fantasizing about romancing the lovely single mother who lives down the hall.

He's brutalized by young thugs. He's beaten by suit-clad Wall Streeters. And his answer to this dual pincer of oppression by people of color and one-percenters is a murderous rampage of revenge, which catches fire among fellow angry citizens of Gotham and sends them looting through the streets.

While many reviewers have focused on Fleck as an "incel" hero -- his status as a sexless loner who turns to violence -- the true nature of the movie's appeal is actually broader: It's an insidious validation of the white-male resentment that helped bring President Donald Trump to power.

"Joker," at its core, is the story of the "forgotten man," the metaphoric displaced and disenfranchised white man whose goodwill has been abused and whose status has been reduced. A man who has been crushed underfoot by the elite, dragged down by equality-demanding feminists and climbed over by upstart nonwhite and immigrant masses.

Phillips clearly wants "Joker" to yank at the chains of a society that has increasingly found his shock-fueled style of storytelling less relevant and more problematic. (It's worth noting that since Phillips's breakthrough hit "The Hangover," his box office totals have trended downward in almost linear fashion. )

This goal was made explicit in Phillips's attacks on the "outrage culture" of the "far left" and his extended complaint to Vanity Fair that the anything-goes, douchebro comedy genre he helped launch had run aground on the iceberg of political correctness. "Go try to be funny nowadays with this woke culture," he told them. "Comedies don't work anymore," he said, because all of the comedians are afraid of offending people. "So I go, 'How do I do something irreverent... Oh, I know, let's take the comic book movie universe and turn it on its head.'"

After watching "Joker," it's easy to decode what Phillips really meant in this quote, and it's the same thing that fired "SNL" cast member Shane Gillis meant when he excused his repeated use of racist, misogynist and homophobic slurs as "pushing boundaries."
It draws from the same well of resentment that Trump strums with his racist rhetoric at his rallies -- the fear of no longer being at the center of the political, social and cultural universe, with everyone who isn't you positioned at its perceived edges. (After all, being racist, sexist and anti-gay only "pushes boundaries" if you define yourself as "normal" and define nonwhite, non-male and non-straight people as marginalized outsiders.)

It doesn't quite seem like coincidence that Fleck and his mother reside in a run-down building that seems otherwise occupied by nonwhite tenants (prompting mother Penny to assert that if her old employer Thomas Wayne saw how they were living, he would be disgusted), or that the movie opens with an attack on Fleck by black and Latinx youth, referred to by one of Fleck's fellow white-male clowns as "savages" and "animals." This man subsequently offers Fleck a gun -- "Gotta protect yourself," he says.

It also doesn't quite seem accidental that all the incidental characters Fleck encounters are black: the social worker who tunes him out during counseling sessions, the woman on the bus who fearfully shoos him away from her toddler, the admin who tries to prevent him from getting his mother's hospital records, and the object of his desire, played by Zazie Beets.


In 1968, after Richard Nixon was elected president, Peter Schrag cited "Forgotten Americans" as the primary reason for his victory -- white, working-class voters who were once the "hero of the civic books...'the bone and sinew of the country,'" Schrag wrote. "Now he is 'the forgotten man,' perhaps the most alienated person in America."


Trump, in his 2016 victory speech, paid similar homage to the "forgotten men." But while Schrag pointed to Nixon's law-and-order based platform as his key appeal to the alienated, forgotten white male, Trump won by using outrageous statements, theatrical posturing and grimacing mockery to generate raucous mob energy -- the very opposite of law and order. White men, in particular, responded to his rhetoric and persona -- seeing in him a disruptor of oppressive correctness who could lead them back to the top of the heap and the center of the world.

This isn't the first time Phillips' and Trump's worlds have collided. When his last film, "War Dogs," came out, Phillips said in an interview with Little White Lies, "Also there's a thing going on right now where the world as a whole is waking up to the fact that the system is rigged... It happens to be Trump's theme," even though, Phillips notes, Trump is part of the system that created these problems.

At the end of the movie, a triumphant Fleck -- seemingly dead, but magically revived by the cheers of a throng of clown-masked rioters -- does a grotesque soft-shoe on top of a shattered cop car, literally dancing on the destroyed remains of the rule of law. Imagine Fleck as Trump, shrugging off impeachment, rebounding with his roaring red-hatted supporters, winning reelection against every prediction and probability.

Phillips may not have intended for his film to be a political parable -- or maybe he did -- but it's hard to imagine a darker ending for our real-world horror-comedy than that.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/06/opini...index.html
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10-09-2019, 08:41 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
heard a lot of good things about the movie

will probably go see it
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10-09-2019, 08:51 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
Michael Hoffman - The Joker is a Work of Art
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The "Joker" movie of October 2019 is disenchanting and anti-occult.
If it "inspires" violence it would be no more culpable than Alfred Hitchcock
for depicting a cross-dressing homicidal maniac in "Psycho."


"It is art and has validity on that basis alone, a cinematic document about one rejected and an oppressed person from our nation's past, a kind of everyman who could be anyone of us if we were so unlucky, and it necessarily foreshadows our future, should America choose to continue on its grossly materialistic, fantastically cruel, mass abortionist, Christ-less path."

https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/10/micha...f-art.html
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10-09-2019, 09:04 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
Great Analysis by PJW
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10-09-2019, 09:14 PM
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10-09-2019, 09:14 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
(10-09-2019 09:04 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  Great Analysis by PJW


It was. This was his first video, about the hysteria from the MSM.




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10-09-2019, 09:22 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
however, this movie must play to the agenda because it's being promoted like crazy

like I've been saying the goal isn't GUN CONTROL

it's MENTAL HEALTH.. this movie is basically saying they need to AMP up the mental health monitoring..

which is what they want to pass, the RED FLAG laws

I haven't seen the movie yet, but this is my prediction...
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10-09-2019, 09:25 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
(10-09-2019 09:14 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  



I don't recall seeing Joaquin in many movies, although I think he might have been in Gladiator? I always knew him as River Phoenix's little brother and for that weird year long troll he did when he said he'd retired. But in this movie his acting skills are brilliant, he really got into the role and lost a lot of weight and he seems to be entrenched in the character.

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10-09-2019, 09:30 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
yeah just visually the film looks like an arthouse movie

in an era where people have very short attention spans, a product has to be REALLY REALLY GOOD to hold people's attention

i'm really like the trailers so far
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10-09-2019, 10:08 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
(10-09-2019 09:22 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  however, this movie must play to the agenda because it's being promoted like crazy

like I've been saying the goal isn't GUN CONTROL

it's MENTAL HEALTH.. this movie is basically saying they need to AMP up the mental health monitoring..

which is what they want to pass, the RED FLAG laws

I haven't seen the movie yet, but this is my prediction...




All sorts of agendas could be theorized from this movie, but I'm simply saying that it's a great movie as far as movies go.

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10-10-2019, 12:35 AM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
(10-09-2019 09:25 PM)Redneck Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 09:14 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  



I don't recall seeing Joaquin in many movies, although I think he might have been in Gladiator? I always knew him as River Phoenix's little brother and for that weird year long troll he did when he said he'd retired. But in this movie his acting skills are brilliant, he really got into the role and lost a lot of weight and he seems to be entrenched in the character.

He was excellent as Johnny Cash in the movie Walk the Line.



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10-10-2019, 01:56 AM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
I"ll check it out when it gets to dvd/cable/netflix. I enjoy the home viewing experience of the "pause" function so that I don't miss anything when nature calls


looking forward to it and enjoyed the Dark Knight Trilogy
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10-10-2019, 11:25 AM
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I'm boycotting Hollywood so I'll not be seeing it.
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10-10-2019, 06:19 PM
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RE: Joker is an amazing movie
(10-10-2019 11:25 AM)Count Iblis Wrote:  I'm boycotting Hollywood so I'll not be seeing it.




I watched a pirate version.

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