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100 Years War, between France and England: 1337-1453, Revenge of the Templars?
08-12-2019, 09:14 AM
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100 Years War, between France and England: 1337-1453, Revenge of the Templars?


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08-12-2019, 05:14 PM
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RE: 100 Years War, between France and England: 1337-1453, Revenge of the Templars?
France had 4 kings from 1314 to around 1328. Problem is, 3 of them died young. And not as infants, either. In their late 20s or early 30s.

It is a misconception that people died that young in medieval times. Esp. if you were a king, you had access to food, medical care, sanitation, fresh water...

The one guy dies after a game of royal tennis! Sounds to me like someone knew he would be taking a drink of water (or juice/wine/whatever) and spiked it.

Usually when they were poisoning you in medieval times, they tried to do it gradually, to make it look like a long term illness. Not for this guy, he just drops dead.

But shows you how well the Templars or whoever killed him covered it up, that there is not even any real suspicion placed on them.
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08-12-2019, 06:23 PM
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RE: 100 Years War, between France and England: 1337-1453, Revenge of the Templars?
Quote:It is a misconception that people died that young in medieval times. Esp. if you were a king, you had access to food, medical care, sanitation, fresh water...

Yep. once you survived past childhood your chance of living a healthy long life became quite high

it is a total myth that people could only live to around 40-50 years old back in the day
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08-13-2019, 02:33 AM
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RE: 100 Years War, between France and England: 1337-1453, Revenge of the Templars?
The same guy that banned the Templars, Philip the Fair, also expelled the banksters and money-changers from France.

But not out of the goodness of his heart. The French people actually then owed the outstanding loans TO HIM. The debts weren't forgiven.

Also, they were allowed back in, around 7 years later, for a 15 year term, something like that, but ended up getting kicked out again.

Which, you know, in 2019 terms, that is discrimination and mean. But if you look at how many kings died, you could be forgiven if wondering if there wasn't foul play and threats, and that they were allowed back in because they threatened the new king, after disposing of the last king, and then being kicked out.

Yeah, just checked and they were expelled around 1322, which is right after both his brothes had died, Philip the 5th and Louis the 10th. One died after tennis and the other after 'a long illness'. Which is how they poisoned you, under ideal conditions. So you can't blame the guy, IMO, for being suspicious and paranoid.
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08-13-2019, 05:43 PM
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RE: 100 Years War, between France and England: 1337-1453, Revenge of the Templars?
I love history because you see the same scenarios over and over, through to the present day.

There was a suicide recently, not Epstein, and the husband of the guy, I mean trans-sexual, who died, tried to imply it was murder.

But the body was cremated and there was no investigation. So very little chance, IMO, that it was murder. But they don't want it to be a suicide, for political reasons (bad optics for high profile trans-sexuals to commit suicide in the current political environment).

And then you have Epstein, who they say committed suicide, but obv. disappeared or murdered.
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08-15-2019, 06:11 AM (This post was last modified: 08-15-2019 06:11 AM by Chaos Reigns.)
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RE: 100 Years War, between France and England: 1337-1453, Revenge of the Templars?
Also the Papacy was in Poitiers, France, at this time, and then moved to Avignon, which was technically not in France, but it sure as heck ain't Rome.

So King Philip had made a lot of enemies. The Knights Templar were directly under the jurisdiction of the Pope, they weren't beholden to ANY king. That is why it was important for Philip to not just get his own Pope in power, but to move the entire papacy, so that his Pope couldn't be threatened.

I mean, all signs point to the Templars being (sodomite?) bankster assassins. They just have really good PR, from the looks of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avignon_Papacy
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08-15-2019, 03:51 PM
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RE: 100 Years War, between France and England: 1337-1453, Revenge of the Templars?
(08-13-2019 05:43 PM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  I love history because you see the same scenarios over and over, through to the present day.

yep.

doesn't repeat but it rhymes

Those who know, know! Big Grin
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08-16-2019, 01:04 PM
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RE: 100 Years War, between France and England: 1337-1453, Revenge of the Templars?
spoilers:

https://thehistoryvault.co.uk/the-myster...iis-death/
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