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1 million people in Hong Kong protest Extradition Law
06-17-2019, 11:48 AM
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this is what it takes to get the govt to take notice.

Murican protesters basically treat protests like modern day woodstocks lmfao

talk about Soy'd out
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06-17-2019, 11:52 AM
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RE: 1 million people in Hong Kong protest Extradition Law
gotta love the US headlines denying 1.9 million

thousands or hundreds of thousands:

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06-17-2019, 12:03 PM
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RE: 1 million people in Hong Kong protest Extradition Law
CCP POV:

US hand apparent in Hong Kong unrest
By Thomas Hon Wing Polin Source:Global Times Published: 2019/6/16 18:03:39

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As this article is being written, the "battle for Hong Kong" is raging in the city's streets. Cheered on by their allies in Washington and London, local anti-Beijing forces (who call themselves "democrats") have forced a postponement of extradition legislation aimed at plugging a loophole in the fight against crime in the Chinese mainland, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Macao.

Marches, with some organized mobs taking the opportunity to create disturbance, have paralyzed important downtown streets. Commandeered vehicles have been used to block important roads. Hong Kong's Chief Executive Carrie Lam and Justice Secretary Teresa Cheng, responsible for the extradition bill, have received repeated death threats.

It all began months ago, with a bid by the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) authorities to try and extradite a man wanted by Taiwan for murder. But local anti-Beijing forces smelled a chance to conjure a political battle royale. Cynically and fraudulently, they labeled the bill a tool to extradite Hongkongers to the mainland, where they would presumably face unspeakable horrors, despite the fact that local authorities had repeatedly revised the legislation to cover only grave crimes and add various rights protections.

The orchestration of the anti-bill campaign was no less than instigating fear. As Hong Kong's pan anti-Communists worked up the fear-and-loathing of Beijing locally, Western governments expressed their "concerns" about the HKSAR's freedoms with growing frequency and intensity. Implicit was a warning that if Beijing were to intervene and crack down in Hong Kong, the West would no longer recognize the validity of "one country, two systems." That could trigger a Western backlash that would severely damage China's premier international financial center.

Yet the Western powers have never hesitated to meddle in Hong Kong's affairs, both openly and subtly. The anti-extradition drive has all the hallmarks of a US-patented Color Revolution, which has wreaked so much havoc worldwide - from Egypt and Ukraine to Venezuela. Classic characteristics: long-term cultivation of local opposition leaders, always under the "pro-democracy" banner; funding, direct and indirect; support via media propaganda and advisers on destabilization and even uprisings; and recognition of the "democrats," if regime change is necessary or desirable.

The last point may not be feasible in Hong Kong, but all the others were clearly observable, especially during the last few weeks. It all adds up to a malicious stratagem by local and external forces to destroy a society for their own political ends. Similar factors were also in play during Hong Kong's Yellow Umbrella uprising in 2014 and violent Mong Kok riots of 2016.

For a Color Revolution to work, a large part of the local population must be persuaded to buy into its cause - and fight for it. And the default cause of made-in-US Color Revolutions is freedom, democracy and human rights. The concepts are an easy sell, of course. Who can oppose it - especially if they don't look too closely at how the US abuses its professed ideals, notably worldwide, to subvert and control others?

That's a big reason the young and naive are especially susceptible to the blandishments of freedom, democracy and human rights. Throw in Hong Kong's always latent, history-induced communist phobia and it's a perfect cocktail. It accounts for the legions of young Hongkongers who profess a love of democracy and a hatred of the mainland's political system.

The aim of the local anti-communists and their foreign backers is not to ensure that Hong Kong writes a better extradition law. HKSAR authorities have already made revisions to accommodate major concerns and are willing to make more, if necessary. Instead, the opponents' ultimate aim is to pressure the Chinese mainland by destabilizing Hong Kong. It is no accident that the eruption has occurred in tandem with Washington's intensified drive worldwide to beat down a rising China.


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06-17-2019, 01:52 PM
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Not a fan of China Uncensored, but at least they are reporting from within the trenches.



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06-17-2019, 02:01 PM
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So which is it, the people of Hong Kong are fearlessly protesting for what they know is right, or they are dupes, having their strings pulled by 'Western agitators'?
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06-17-2019, 02:16 PM
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(06-17-2019 02:01 PM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  So which is it, the people of Hong Kong are fearlessly protesting for what they know is right, or they are dupes, having their strings pulled by 'Western agitators'?
Bit of both imo. Pretty sure they're getting lots of support from western ngos. Anti commie sentiment was always there. Even staunchly pro China ppl like my dad has lost their faith in the ccp.

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06-17-2019, 04:19 PM
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(06-17-2019 02:01 PM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  So which is it, the people of Hong Kong are fearlessly protesting for what they know is right, or they are dupes, having their strings pulled by 'Western agitators'?

the one 5 years ago was for sure a NED operation, this one I think is organic

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06-17-2019, 04:20 PM
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(06-17-2019 02:16 PM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 02:01 PM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  So which is it, the people of Hong Kong are fearlessly protesting for what they know is right, or they are dupes, having their strings pulled by 'Western agitators'?
Bit of both imo. Pretty sure they're getting lots of support from western ngos. Anti commie sentiment was always there. Even staunchly pro China ppl like my dad has lost their faith in the ccp.

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yep. that's what I've noticed as well with a lot of people. formerly pro China people are now disappointed and have turned sides

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06-17-2019, 05:16 PM
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(06-17-2019 04:20 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 02:16 PM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 02:01 PM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  So which is it, the people of Hong Kong are fearlessly protesting for what they know is right, or they are dupes, having their strings pulled by 'Western agitators'?
Bit of both imo. Pretty sure they're getting lots of support from western ngos. Anti commie sentiment was always there. Even staunchly pro China ppl like my dad has lost their faith in the ccp.

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yep. that's what I've noticed as well with a lot of people. formerly pro China people are now disappointed and have turned sides

Pug Thug never noticed shit.

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06-18-2019, 01:56 AM
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(06-17-2019 02:16 PM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 02:01 PM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  So which is it, the people of Hong Kong are fearlessly protesting for what they know is right, or they are dupes, having their strings pulled by 'Western agitators'?
Bit of both imo. Pretty sure they're getting lots of support from western ngos. Anti commie sentiment was always there. Even staunchly pro China ppl like my dad has lost their faith in the ccp.

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Just posted a video on this topic last week, although it was specifically about Europe's 1848 revolutions, more generally it was about how 'interest groups' will use legitimate gripes and protest movements, and subtly re-direct them for their own purposes.

Occupy Wall Street is a pretty good example. It started as the younger generation being tired of Wall St banker (banksters) getting away with everything, just because they could afford a team of lawyers when they went to trial (or avoided trial entirely).

Next thing you know there are Antifa/Commie types there, sh**ing on the streets, rioting, God knows what else, and it is a 'protest for socialist revolution'.

This is the weakness for any movement/protest that develops organically, does not have a leader, and represents a wide array of interests. It is prone to being co-opted, and subverted.

When there is a leader, though, the leader is prone to being bribed, and/or intimidated.

In the case of the 1848 revolutions, most of the people involved merely wanted national sovereignty and a vote under a republican government (not democracy!). But some wanted full blown 'right to work' socialism/Communism, and so 'somehow' the revolutions are re-branded.

So my point is, it (subversion) will happen to any legit protest, and has been the case for 170 years, at least!
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06-18-2019, 05:08 AM
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(06-17-2019 05:16 PM)Katsumi Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 04:20 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 02:16 PM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 02:01 PM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  So which is it, the people of Hong Kong are fearlessly protesting for what they know is right, or they are dupes, having their strings pulled by 'Western agitators'?
Bit of both imo. Pretty sure they're getting lots of support from western ngos. Anti commie sentiment was always there. Even staunchly pro China ppl like my dad has lost their faith in the ccp.

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yep. that's what I've noticed as well with a lot of people. formerly pro China people are now disappointed and have turned sides

Pug Thug never noticed shit.

What color stamp is your passport?

please refrain from name calling or personal attacks.

you are free to make your points however.

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06-18-2019, 05:51 AM (This post was last modified: 06-18-2019 05:52 AM by canuckster.)
Post: #27
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There's 2 million in downtown Toronto for the raptor parade celebration, I'd say the million number there is conservative.


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06-18-2019, 08:16 AM
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canadian media is saying 2 million is conservative for this:

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06-18-2019, 08:27 AM
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Apparently Some niggas just went and shot up the place
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06-18-2019, 11:26 AM
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(06-18-2019 08:27 AM)canuckster Wrote:  Apparently Some niggas just went and shot up the place

That many people, of course there will be a handful of thugs.

The 2 million number isn't just the people in that square though, they were lining the streets for ~4 miles, so thick the buses couldn't get through.

Others were saying it could have been closer to 3 mil. Raptors have always been such a shitshow franchise, I didn't think they had a damn chance UNTIL they got to the Finals.

People of Toronto, Ontario and Canada in general waited ages for this moment.
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