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11-17-2019, 03:47 PM
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China's PLA soldiers on Hong Kong streets in 'voluntary' clean-up

PLA troops leave Hong Kong garrison amid intensifying protests over Beijing's role in the semi-autonomous territory.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/c...13276.html

Soldiers belonging to China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) have briefly left their barracks to help Hong Kong residents clean up debris left over from anti-government demonstrations in a rare and highly symbolic troop movement unsolicited by the city's embattled government.

Saturday's action saw scores of soldiers from the garrison sporting crewcuts and identical gym kits conduct a lightning-quick removal of bricks and debris near their base, the AFP news agency reported.

Confirming the brief deployment on Weibo, China's Twitter-like social media platform, the PLA said it acted to open a debris-strewn road outside their Kowloon Tong barracks to traffic, winning "applause from residents" in the process.

A city spokesman meanwhile said the Hong Kong government did not request assistance from the PLA, which has previously stayed confined to its garrison during months of protests, but the military initiated the operation as a "voluntary community activity".

The presence of PLA troops on Hong Kong's streets could stoke further controversy over the Chinese-ruled territory's semi-autonomous status.

Demosisto, a pro-democracy organisation, said Saturday's clean-up operation could set a "grave precedent" if the city's government invites the military to deal with internal problems, the Reuters news agency reported.

The developments followed some of the worst violence seen during more than five months of anti-government demonstrations after a police operation against protesters at the Chinese University of Hong Kong on Tuesday.

The authorities have since largely stayed away from at least five university campuses that had been barricaded by thousands of students and activists who stockpiled petrol bombs, catapults, bows and arrows and other weapons.

Many protesters appeared to have left the campuses by late Saturday, though some remained behind to man barricades. Hong Kong's Cross-Harbour Tunnel was still blocked by protesters occupying Polytechnic University
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11-17-2019, 04:05 PM (This post was last modified: 11-17-2019 08:57 PM by The Diet Butcher.)
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11-20-2019, 04:56 PM
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1 million people in Hong Kong protest Extradition Law
Xi must suck at poker. I can see Trump not signing this if China said nothing. But now Trump would look weak and as obeying to China if he does not sign.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomac...kong-human

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11-29-2019, 11:03 PM (This post was last modified: 11-29-2019 11:08 PM by Skookum Charlie.)
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Quote:How Hong Kong's keyboard warriors have besieged Wikipedia

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-hongko...KKBN1Y210Y


Beyond Hong Kong’s tear gas-drenched streets and shattered universities, another battle has been raging over the city’s depiction online on the crowd-sourced internet encyclopaedia, Wikipedia.

As anti-government demonstrations have intensified, articles on subjects from Hong Kong’s leadership to its police force have been ceaselessly rewritten for months on the website, used by millions everyday to check facts and untangle complex issues.

(Click tmsnrt.rs/37IPxAZ to see an interactive graphic on the Hong Kong Wiki wars.)

A Reuters analysis found a seven-fold surge in edits of the Hong Kong Police Force page over the 10 months to October, compared with a year earlier. Similar spikes occurred in articles about the protests and Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam.

Changes swapped facts for insults or inserted slabs of material that upset the balance of the articles.

Where it was possible to determine the location of the editor, 40% of edits were found to have been filed from computers in Hong Kong. Internet users can disguise their location by using a virtual private network (VPN).

The number of daily edits spiked during particularly intense clashes on the territory’s streets, and prompted Wiki administrators to restrict editing access to some pages, a common practice adopted with controversial issues.

Now, unregistered users and very new accounts cannot alter those articles directly, but have to make a request to submit edits.

“There has been a great increase in all types of disruptive editing including vandalism, edit wars, and extreme language from both of the major perspectives,” said a volunteer editor with the username MarkH21, who has 13 years’ experience.

“The level of disruptive editing against the government, particularly from sources in Hong Kong, is significantly higher,” MarkH21 said. The user did not respond to requests to be identified other than by their username.

More edits eventually improve Wikipedia articles and changes can be publicly tracked to aid transparency, said Samantha Lien, a spokeswoman for Wikimedia Foundation, the not-for-profit entity that operates Wikipedia.

“Articles about contentious topics, in particular, because they are watched so regularly by editors, tend to become higher quality and more neutral,” Lien wrote in an emailed response to a request for comment.


EDIT WARS

But not everyone is convinced.

As Wikipedia, founded in 2001, has grown in popularity and credibility, it has become a valuable but contested record of history.

“In many languages, Wikipedia is the main or sometimes only general knowledge repository online,” said Taha Yasseri, a senior research fellow at Oxford University’s Internet Institute, who has studied Wikipedia.

“Articles that are subject to edit wars can be a common place for misleading the readers,” he said, explaining that a reader would not be aware an edit war was happening. “At any given time, the information reflected in the article can only show some part of the truth.”

At one point in August, the police page grew by a third as long sections were added criticising their response to demonstrators. The Oct. 1 shooting of a protester by police sparked another flurry of changes.

On the police Wiki page, the force’s motto was changed from “We Serve with Pride and Care” to “We Serve with Terror and Violence,” then to “We Shoot kids point blank”, before quickly reverting.

Lam’s page received similar bursts of editing, with changes dubbing her “Super Lady,” and then “Super Puppet”, after she decried a July attack on China’s representative office.

Police, who have arrested more than 5,000 protesters since June, have repeatedly defended their behaviour as restrained in the face of demonstrators targeting them with petrol bombs and flaming arrows.

Neither the force nor Lam’s office responded to Reuters’ questions about their Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia’s volunteer editors, though, are bracing for more busy months.

“People naturally will advocate for anything that they strongly believe in,” MarkH21 said.

“Thankfully, the editing community has many safeguards against it ... the self-policing mechanism of Wikipedia is that it is built around the idea of consensus.”
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11-30-2019, 03:00 AM
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Quote:Veteran journalist Ian Johnson takes a similar view in the New York Review of Books, and he blames Beijing for neglecting and abusing the city:

We are witnessing Hong Kong’s descent from leading international city to collateral damage in Beijing’s rise to a strident superpower. While the activists have made their mistakes, the Hong Kong protests are mostly an epic failure of China’s soft power…

…[Beijing has] failed to install visionary leaders who might have helped Hong Kong retain its place among the handful of truly key global cities. Instead, the city has been run by a series of Beijing-approved mediocrities, all of whom have either resigned in disgrace or been engulfed in crises. All the city’s chief executives were fatally hampered by having to defer on all important decisions to Beijing, making them more like colonial governors than autonomous rulers of a dynamic metropolis.

This is reflected in the government’s mishandling of the current protests…the protesters’ anger stems from the structural violence that Beijing has stealthily inflicted on them over the past decade. This includes the gradual but steady erosion of liberties [as well as] Beijing’s unwillingness to follow through on written promises of universal suffrage…

In light of this betrayal, we can see the past half year’s violence for what it is…the death throes of a great city, played out on its own streets for the world to see.
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11-30-2019, 03:01 AM
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HKers have destroyed the pearl of the orient.

Chinese encroachment may be less than desirable, but anarchy and western psypops is worse.
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11-30-2019, 04:12 AM
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(11-30-2019 03:01 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  HKers have destroyed the pearl of the orient.

Chinese encroachment may be less than desirable, but anarchy and western psypops is worse.

Expand on that thought. Tear gas and pepper spray through fire houses and disappearing protestors is 'less than desireable', but defending yourself from armored personnel carriers with Molotovs is worse?

Also, anarchy would entail a war of all against all, every man for himself. This is clearly not that. It is the people of HK, against the CCP.
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11-30-2019, 08:36 PM
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If the CCP wants the people on their side, they really need to think of something else other than instilling FEAR and VIOLENCE on them. These old commie tactics clearly does not work anymore in 2019.

This just happened somewhere in Guangdong.





Intimidation tactics ahead of Macau handover anniversary.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics...nti-terror
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12-01-2019, 04:29 AM
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(11-30-2019 08:36 PM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  If the CCP wants the people on their side, they really need to think of something else other than instilling FEAR and VIOLENCE on them. These old commie tactics clearly does not work anymore in 2019.

This just happened somewhere in Guangdong.





Intimidation tactics ahead of Macau handover anniversary.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics...nti-terror

Why do I get the feeling they may not be entirely honest about the reason people are protesting. An industrial park with a crematorium? Or is something going to be destroyed, to build the industrial park?
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12-02-2019, 11:07 AM
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Protests Have Turned Hong Kong Disneyland Into a ‘Ghost Town’

Plunging attendance at the theme park is emblematic of a decline in tourism


HONG KONG—When Suki-Rose Etter and her husband visited Hong Kong Disneyland on Wednesday, they immediately noticed something was off: Few visitors. No lines.

“It’s like a ghost town,” said Ms. Etter, 32 years old. “It feels like there are more employees than visitors.”

More than five months of antigovernment protests have slammed Hong Kong’s economy, and tourism is among the hardest-hit industries. Visitors from around the world are staying away. Visitors from mainland China, Hong Kong’s biggest source of tourists, plunged 46% in October from a year earlier, according to data from the city’s tourism board.

Ms. Etter and her husband thought of skipping Hong Kong during their two-week Asia trip because of the protests. They made a brief stop to the city on a layover before heading back home to Los Angeles.

“It almost feels wrong to be in Disney,” she said, “especially since we know so many others are out on the streets fighting for democracy.”

Clashes between protesters and police have at times brought the city to a halt, causing stores to close, hotels to sit empty and music and dining festivals to be canceled. Hong Kong’s economy fell into a recession for the first time since the 2008-09 financial crisis in the quarter that ended Sept. 30. That was before some of the most violent and disruptive protests over the subsequent two months. Economists don’t expect growth to pick up anytime soon.

Continued: https://www.wsj.com/articles/protests-ha...1575196203
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12-04-2019, 03:12 AM
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Yup. Less than desirable for sure. Too bad Huawei makes bad ass phones Sad



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12-08-2019, 08:11 PM
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After 2 weeks of calm, they're out for the biggest rally yet. Prob gonna beat the 2 million mark. Let's hope this stays peaceful.



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