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03-15-2019, 09:39 AM
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RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
(03-15-2019 04:48 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  It seems pretty obvious pilgrim has engaged in some mental gymnastics to square his religious beliefs with his military career on behalf of the Rothschild Zionist state of Israel.

I don't have a career in the military. I served 5 years in the Marines and moved on.

My beliefs have their foundation in the bible. There was no need for mental gymnastics.
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03-15-2019, 09:45 AM
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RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
(03-14-2019 11:07 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  There is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. The Pharisees were thrown out of the Temple by Jesus, and they crucified him for it.

He was the messiah, and they rejected him.

The Pharisees follow oral tradition whereas Christians follow scripture.

Zionism is even worse, as it is an imperialist, racial supremacist doctrine. And most/many Zionists are actually Kabbalists/occult practitioners.

Quote:There is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. The Pharisees were thrown out of the Temple by Jesus, and they crucified him for it.


Jesus seemed to focus on those that made the temple into a market place and not so much the pharisees.


And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
— Matthew 21:12–13
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03-15-2019, 09:48 AM
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RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
Umm, pilgrim, so are you... I am kinda frightened to ask...

Of the opinion that Jesus crucifixion was the fault of the Romans?
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03-15-2019, 01:48 PM
Post: #49
RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
(03-15-2019 09:45 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 11:07 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  There is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. The Pharisees were thrown out of the Temple by Jesus, and they crucified him for it.

He was the messiah, and they rejected him.

The Pharisees follow oral tradition whereas Christians follow scripture.

Zionism is even worse, as it is an imperialist, racial supremacist doctrine. And most/many Zionists are actually Kabbalists/occult practitioners.

Quote:There is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. The Pharisees were thrown out of the Temple by Jesus, and they crucified him for it.


Jesus seemed to focus on those that made the temple into a market place and not so much the pharisees.


And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
— Matthew 21:12–13

Gospel of Thomas 39 parallels Luke 11:52, Matt 23:13, Matt 10:16

Jesus said: The Pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (and) have hidden them. They did not go in, and those who wished to go in they did not allow. But you, be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.


Gospel of Thomas 43 parallels Luke 6:43-45, Matt 7:15-20, Matt 12:33

His disciples said to him: Who are you, that you say these things to us? <Jesus said to them:> From what I say to you, do you not know who I am? But you have become like the Jews; for they love the tree (and) hate its fruit, and they love the fruit (and) hate the tree.

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03-16-2019, 07:10 AM
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RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
(03-15-2019 09:48 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Umm, pilgrim, so are you... I am kinda frightened to ask...

Of the opinion that Jesus crucifixion was the fault of the Romans?

No. It was clearly the Jewish leadership pushing for him to be crucified. It was a part of God's plan all along though for his son to be crucified and pay the price for all of mankind.
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03-16-2019, 07:39 AM
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RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
(03-16-2019 07:10 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 09:48 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Umm, pilgrim, so are you... I am kinda frightened to ask...

Of the opinion that Jesus crucifixion was the fault of the Romans?

No. It was clearly the Jewish leadership pushing for him to be crucified. It was a part of God's plan all along though for his son to be crucified and pay the price for all of mankind.

Why did the Pharisees reject the Messiah? And still reject him?
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03-16-2019, 08:29 AM (This post was last modified: 03-16-2019 08:30 AM by pilgrim.)
Post: #52
RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
(03-16-2019 07:39 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  
(03-16-2019 07:10 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 09:48 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Umm, pilgrim, so are you... I am kinda frightened to ask...

Of the opinion that Jesus crucifixion was the fault of the Romans?

No. It was clearly the Jewish leadership pushing for him to be crucified. It was a part of God's plan all along though for his son to be crucified and pay the price for all of mankind.

Why did the Pharisees reject the Messiah? And still reject him?

Blindness and inability to see the truth.

John 12:
37But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:
38That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
39Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
40He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

41These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.

Apostle Paul said this in Romans 11:

7What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
8(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear) unto this day.
9And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.


Eventually their eyes will be opened again and they will be grafted in:

25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
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03-16-2019, 10:39 AM
Post: #53
RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
So how does supporting the killers of Christ gain God's favor, for America? Am I missing something? I am a Revelation 2:9 kinda guy, myself.
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03-16-2019, 04:24 PM
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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4066586-judaism
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03-17-2019, 01:52 AM
Post: #55
RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
(03-16-2019 10:39 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  So how does supporting the killers of Christ gain God's favor, for America? Am I missing something? I am a Revelation 2:9 kinda guy, myself.

Well they are beloved by God so I respect God's feelings about the Jews. You could focus on any peoples mistakes and sins and try to define them by those. Or you could accept that we are all flawed and we all need God's grace.

Blessing God's people will bring blessings back;

(Genesis 26:1-3)

1Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
2And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.


I can't tell you how to feel about Jews. I can only remind you that God loves them even in all of their flaws. For me that counts for something. I try to see them through my spiritual eyes and not just my natural eyes.
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03-17-2019, 02:07 AM
Post: #56
RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
I don't really care about any one's beliefs, least of all those that practice Judaism. The exception would be godless Commies, and occultists.

The issue I have is with Zionism, which is a political movement that is both imperialist and racial supremacist. Now, if all groups are 'allowed' to be imperialist and racial supremacist, then so be it. If none are allowed to be, then also, that is fine.

But the idea that one group can do it, and no one else can? That is extremely questionable, IMO.
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03-17-2019, 11:42 AM
Post: #57
RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
I get what you are saying, Chaos. What Israel is doing isn't a whole lot different than what the USA did when it was birthed. Many nations have a violent history in their beginnings.

It's a broken world that we are living in and things will only continue to get worse. There is only one safe place to stand and that is with Christ. Don't expect things to be fair until Christ returns.
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03-17-2019, 02:29 PM
Post: #58
RE: Political Distractions/Damage Control Strategies?
(03-17-2019 11:42 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  I get what you are saying, Chaos. What Israel is doing isn't a whole lot different than what the USA did when it was birthed. Many nations have a violent history in their beginnings.

It's a broken world that we are living in and things will only continue to get worse. There is only one safe place to stand and that is with Christ. Don't expect things to be fair until Christ returns.
Say hello to Pastor Hagee for me, pilgrim.



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