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03-02-2019, 10:18 AM
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(03-02-2019 08:29 AM)karasu Wrote:  I think this image/quote represents more the issue of Diet/Discipline and it is a testament to the advantage of youth where one can get better results with less effort in sleep/diet/disciplined living habit:


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You certainly do have to work harder. But if you do , you can slow down the aging process considerably. 40 is not a senior. It's early middle age. An athletes decline depending on sport and individual will likely be in the range of ten percent. That would make an elite athlete still competitive if not a record holder. I believe Tom Brady can easily remain elite until 50 and play like he said to the media. Even then he could play on a bad team or lower football league likely. Of course future returns would be diminishing compared to the younger athlete who can improve performance. A 40 plus man with good genetics, diet and exercise will be healthy, look much younger and still attract the attention of much younger thots!Tongue
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03-02-2019, 10:48 AM
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just saw this in the NEWS:


"Legendary MMA fighter Mirko 'Cro Cop' Filipovic forced to retire at 44 after suffering a stroke"------

https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/legen...-a-stroke/



a 40s age cannot sustain the intense athletic training and competition which a 20s age structure can endure. 20s can compete into their 30s but mid-to-late 30s they reach the top of the mountain and then it's DOWN HILL decline



and I'm sure Mirko will give this new challenge a great fight!
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03-02-2019, 11:00 AM
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(03-02-2019 10:18 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 08:29 AM)karasu Wrote:  I think this image/quote represents more the issue of Diet/Discipline and it is a testament to the advantage of youth where one can get better results with less effort in sleep/diet/disciplined living habit:


[Image: quote-the-cruelty-of-nature-is-you-have-...-14-32.jpg]
You certainly do have to work harder. But if you do , you can slow down the aging process considerably. 40 is not a senior. It's early middle age. An athletes decline depending on sport and individual will likely be in the range of ten percent. That would make an elite athlete still competitive if not a record holder. I believe Tom Brady can easily remain elite until 50 and play like he said to the media. Even then he could play on a bad team or lower football league likely. Of course future returns would be diminishing compared to the younger athlete who can improve performance. A 40 plus man with good genetics, diet and exercise will be healthy, look much younger and still attract the attention of much younger thots!Tongue



"look much younger and still attract the attention of much younger thots"-----


I would like to address this issue. I understand if a man wants to enjoy the life so long as possible but he should also know his limitations so he can best protect himself.

in the beginning some tart may be impressed with his maturity, achievement, and impressive wisdom and knowledge of facts, but when a significant time is spent together then the reality of his age will show itself and what once seemed intriguing will later just seem OLD and unappealing so men should be smart about his expectations and knowing his position so that he does not suffer the misery of having some younger woman leaves him and take half his life's accomplishments when she one day realized he is OLD and not so intriguing as she thought him to be.

My French friend just told me a story of such a case in France where this old fellow married a younger woman with ambitions to liberate him of his fortune but he was very clever and did not include her in his estate which she discovered after his suspicious ending
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03-02-2019, 11:29 AM
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(03-02-2019 10:48 AM)karasu Wrote:  just saw this in the NEWS:


"Legendary MMA fighter Mirko 'Cro Cop' Filipovic forced to retire at 44 after suffering a stroke"------

https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/legen...-a-stroke/



a 40s age cannot sustain the intense athletic training and competition which a 20s age structure can endure. 20s can compete into their 30s but mid-to-late 30s they reach the top of the mountain and then it's DOWN HILL decline



and I'm sure Mirko will give this new challenge a great fight!

too bad for crocop

as you get older it's better not to train too hard

but just working out a bit is better than what most people do which is nothing

Those who know, know! Big Grin
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03-03-2019, 01:46 AM
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(03-02-2019 11:29 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 10:48 AM)karasu Wrote:  just saw this in the NEWS:


"Legendary MMA fighter Mirko 'Cro Cop' Filipovic forced to retire at 44 after suffering a stroke"------

https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/legen...-a-stroke/



a 40s age cannot sustain the intense athletic training and competition which a 20s age structure can endure. 20s can compete into their 30s but mid-to-late 30s they reach the top of the mountain and then it's DOWN HILL decline



and I'm sure Mirko will give this new challenge a great fight!

too bad for crocop

as you get older it's better not to train too hard

but just working out a bit is better than what most people do which is nothing
I read the article on mmajunkie.com about this. It was related to a neck injury from a previous fight. Not artery problems due to aging. Strokes are caused by arthosclerosis in the arteries and are associated with obesity, high blood pressure, and diabetes. They're not common at his age, even for non athletes. He will retire from fighting but continue training. He's 44, not 94. You don't age in one day or one year. You age gradually just like a child grows to adult size over many years. We're not insects with a one year life span. Their is a good anti aging supplement protocol on the Life Extension Foundation" website. Some uninformed ageist comments on this thread above.Huh
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03-03-2019, 05:27 AM (This post was last modified: 03-03-2019 05:27 AM by karasu.)
Post: #36
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(03-03-2019 01:46 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 11:29 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 10:48 AM)karasu Wrote:  just saw this in the NEWS:


"Legendary MMA fighter Mirko 'Cro Cop' Filipovic forced to retire at 44 after suffering a stroke"------

https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/legen...-a-stroke/



a 40s age cannot sustain the intense athletic training and competition which a 20s age structure can endure. 20s can compete into their 30s but mid-to-late 30s they reach the top of the mountain and then it's DOWN HILL decline



and I'm sure Mirko will give this new challenge a great fight!

too bad for crocop

as you get older it's better not to train too hard

but just working out a bit is better than what most people do which is nothing
I read the article on mmajunkie.com about this. It was related to a neck injury from a previous fight. Not artery problems due to aging. Strokes are caused by arthosclerosis in the arteries and are associated with obesity, high blood pressure, and diabetes. They're not common at his age, even for non athletes. He will retire from fighting but continue training. He's 44, not 94. You don't age in one day or one year. You age gradually just like a child grows to adult size over many years. We're not insects with a one year life span. Their is a good anti aging supplement protocol on the Life Extension Foundation" website. Some uninformed ageist comments on this thread above.Huh


and which injures more easily, the young or the old? And which will experience faster/better recovery from training/injury, the young or the old?


I would say there are "common sense" comments on this thread Big Grin
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03-03-2019, 06:01 AM
Post: #37
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(03-03-2019 05:27 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 01:46 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 11:29 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 10:48 AM)karasu Wrote:  just saw this in the NEWS:


"Legendary MMA fighter Mirko 'Cro Cop' Filipovic forced to retire at 44 after suffering a stroke"------

https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/legen...-a-stroke/



a 40s age cannot sustain the intense athletic training and competition which a 20s age structure can endure. 20s can compete into their 30s but mid-to-late 30s they reach the top of the mountain and then it's DOWN HILL decline



and I'm sure Mirko will give this new challenge a great fight!

too bad for crocop

as you get older it's better not to train too hard

but just working out a bit is better than what most people do which is nothing
I read the article on mmajunkie.com about this. It was related to a neck injury from a previous fight. Not artery problems due to aging. Strokes are caused by arthosclerosis in the arteries and are associated with obesity, high blood pressure, and diabetes. They're not common at his age, even for non athletes. He will retire from fighting but continue training. He's 44, not 94. You don't age in one day or one year. You age gradually just like a child grows to adult size over many years. We're not insects with a one year life span. Their is a good anti aging supplement protocol on the Life Extension Foundation" website. Some uninformed ageist comments on this thread above.Huh


and which injures more easily, the young or the old? And which will experience faster/better recovery from training/injury, the young or the old?


I would say there are "common sense" comments on this thread Big Grin
Obviously the young has an advantage. You are severely underestimating what a fit 40 year old can do( Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Randy Couture, George Foreman boxing at 50, Herschell Walker in MMA, the masters 100 meter sprint champion is just over 10 seconds, etc.)I'm well past 40 and can still outlift most 25 year olds. Although I accept it won't last forever, it will last longer than a year or two. Are you a dumb teenager who thinks 30 year old are seniors or a middle aged slob who has given up?Huh
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03-03-2019, 06:06 AM (This post was last modified: 03-03-2019 06:16 AM by General Franco.)
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(03-03-2019 06:01 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 05:27 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 01:46 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 11:29 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 10:48 AM)karasu Wrote:  just saw this in the NEWS:


"Legendary MMA fighter Mirko 'Cro Cop' Filipovic forced to retire at 44 after suffering a stroke"------

https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/legen...-a-stroke/



a 40s age cannot sustain the intense athletic training and competition which a 20s age structure can endure. 20s can compete into their 30s but mid-to-late 30s they reach the top of the mountain and then it's DOWN HILL decline



and I'm sure Mirko will give this new challenge a great fight!

too bad for crocop

as you get older it's better not to train too hard

but just working out a bit is better than what most people do which is nothing
I read the article on mmajunkie.com about this. It was related to a neck injury from a previous fight. Not artery problems due to aging. Strokes are caused by arthosclerosis in the arteries and are associated with obesity, high blood pressure, and diabetes. They're not common at his age, even for non athletes. He will retire from fighting but continue training. He's 44, not 94. You don't age in one day or one year. You age gradually just like a child grows to adult size over many years. We're not insects with a one year life span. Their is a good anti aging supplement protocol on the Life Extension Foundation" website. Some uninformed ageist comments on this thread above.Huh


and which injures more easily, the young or the old? And which will experience faster/better recovery from training/injury, the young or the old?


I would say there are "common sense" comments on this thread Big Grin
Obviously the young has an advantage. Aging is a fact of life but you are severely underestimating what a fit 40 year old can do( Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Randy Couture, George Foreman boxing at 50, Herschell Walker in MMA, the masters 100 meter sprint champion is just over 10 seconds, etc.)I'm well past 40 and can still outlift most 25 year olds who train. I have modified my training for my joints, though. For example, I use the Hammer strength deadlift, belt squat, leg press, V squat, weighted chins and dips, weighted pushups and other non barbell or modified barbell exercises. Although, I accept it won't last forever, it will last longer than a year or two. Are you a dumb teenager who thinks 30 year old are seniors or a middle aged slob who has given up?Huh
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03-03-2019, 06:29 AM
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(03-03-2019 06:06 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 06:01 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 05:27 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 01:46 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 11:29 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  too bad for crocop

as you get older it's better not to train too hard

but just working out a bit is better than what most people do which is nothing
I read the article on mmajunkie.com about this. It was related to a neck injury from a previous fight. Not artery problems due to aging. Strokes are caused by arthosclerosis in the arteries and are associated with obesity, high blood pressure, and diabetes. They're not common at his age, even for non athletes. He will retire from fighting but continue training. He's 44, not 94. You don't age in one day or one year. You age gradually just like a child grows to adult size over many years. We're not insects with a one year life span. Their is a good anti aging supplement protocol on the Life Extension Foundation" website. Some uninformed ageist comments on this thread above.Huh


and which injures more easily, the young or the old? And which will experience faster/better recovery from training/injury, the young or the old?


I would say there are "common sense" comments on this thread Big Grin
Obviously the young has an advantage. Aging is a fact of life but you are severely underestimating what a fit 40 year old can do( Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Randy Couture, George Foreman boxing at 50, Herschell Walker in MMA, the masters 100 meter sprint champion is just over 10 seconds, etc.)I'm well past 40 and can still outlift most 25 year olds who train. I have modified my training for my joints, though. For example, I use the Hammer strength deadlift, belt squat, leg press, V squat, weighted chins and dips, weighted pushups and other non barbell or modified barbell exercises. Although, I accept it won't last forever, it will last longer than a year or two. Are you a dumb teenager who thinks 30 year old are seniors or a middle aged slob who has given up?Huh


every one of your posts has unintentionally proven the point of the article

" I have modified my training for my joints, though.......I accept it won't last forever"


where did I EVER say that a 40s or older is unable to maintain a exercise habit?


I only agree with the author( wrestled at an extremely high level, ranked second in the World for Kickboxing, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu World Champion, fought in UFC) in his narrative of age/exercise.

how does that even make me a dumb teenager/middle age slob?

are those attacks really necessary? why so emotional? Old Age Low-T perhaps? sorry I could not resist the opportunity to respond to those attacks Tongue
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03-03-2019, 06:34 AM
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03-03-2019, 06:45 AM
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"40 Ways to Boost Your Confidence After 40

BY YOUR GOLDEN DECADE, YOU'VE EARNED IT-------



https://bestlifeonline.com/improve-confidence-after-40/
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03-03-2019, 07:17 AM
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(03-03-2019 06:29 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 06:06 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 06:01 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 05:27 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 01:46 AM)General Franco Wrote:  I read the article on mmajunkie.com about this. It was related to a neck injury from a previous fight. Not artery problems due to aging. Strokes are caused by arthosclerosis in the arteries and are associated with obesity, high blood pressure, and diabetes. They're not common at his age, even for non athletes. He will retire from fighting but continue training. He's 44, not 94. You don't age in one day or one year. You age gradually just like a child grows to adult size over many years. We're not insects with a one year life span. Their is a good anti aging supplement protocol on the Life Extension Foundation" website. Some uninformed ageist comments on this thread above.Huh


and which injures more easily, the young or the old? And which will experience faster/better recovery from training/injury, the young or the old?


I would say there are "common sense" comments on this thread Big Grin
Obviously the young has an advantage. Aging is a fact of life but you are severely underestimating what a fit 40 year old can do( Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Randy Couture, George Foreman boxing at 50, Herschell Walker in MMA, the masters 100 meter sprint champion is just over 10 seconds, etc.)I'm well past 40 and can still outlift most 25 year olds who train. I have modified my training for my joints, though. For example, I use the Hammer strength deadlift, belt squat, leg press, V squat, weighted chins and dips, weighted pushups and other non barbell or modified barbell exercises. Although, I accept it won't last forever, it will last longer than a year or two. Are you a dumb teenager who thinks 30 year old are seniors or a middle aged slob who has given up?Huh


every one of your posts has unintentionally proven the point of the article

" I have modified my training for my joints, though.......I accept it won't last forever"


where did I EVER say that a 40s or older is unable to maintain a exercise habit?


I only agree with the author( wrestled at an extremely high level, ranked second in the World for Kickboxing, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu World Champion, fought in UFC) in his narrative of age/exercise.

how does that even make me a dumb teenager/middle age slob?

are those attacks really necessary? why so emotional? Old Age Low-T perhaps? sorry I could not resist the opportunity to respond to those attacks Tongue
Well I agree with the author too. Just disagree with the categorical characterization of 40 year old athletes abilities and level of quantitative decline of bio markers or qualitative decline of health performance, independent of individual differences. I modified my lifts as a precaution not due to injury or soreness, because I don't compete, so your muscles don't care if you use dips or bench presses, weighted pushups,. etc. The avg soyboy has a test level of 320ng/nl. Mine is more than double that. I do take test boosters and for steroid alternatives and ego for my hobby of sport fucking 20's and 30's feminist thots. I look younger than I am and lie to them about my age/ occupation and evil misogynistic , fascist beliefs, ha ha. Sorry for the attacks, I'm a internet troll, (banned from OG,have to keep the troll caged) momentarily lost control.
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03-03-2019, 08:32 AM
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(03-03-2019 07:17 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 06:29 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 06:06 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 06:01 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 05:27 AM)karasu Wrote:  and which injures more easily, the young or the old? And which will experience faster/better recovery from training/injury, the young or the old?


I would say there are "common sense" comments on this thread Big Grin
Obviously the young has an advantage. Aging is a fact of life but you are severely underestimating what a fit 40 year old can do( Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Randy Couture, George Foreman boxing at 50, Herschell Walker in MMA, the masters 100 meter sprint champion is just over 10 seconds, etc.)I'm well past 40 and can still outlift most 25 year olds who train. I have modified my training for my joints, though. For example, I use the Hammer strength deadlift, belt squat, leg press, V squat, weighted chins and dips, weighted pushups and other non barbell or modified barbell exercises. Although, I accept it won't last forever, it will last longer than a year or two. Are you a dumb teenager who thinks 30 year old are seniors or a middle aged slob who has given up?Huh


every one of your posts has unintentionally proven the point of the article

" I have modified my training for my joints, though.......I accept it won't last forever"


where did I EVER say that a 40s or older is unable to maintain a exercise habit?


I only agree with the author( wrestled at an extremely high level, ranked second in the World for Kickboxing, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu World Champion, fought in UFC) in his narrative of age/exercise.

how does that even make me a dumb teenager/middle age slob?

are those attacks really necessary? why so emotional? Old Age Low-T perhaps? sorry I could not resist the opportunity to respond to those attacks Tongue
Well I agree with the author too. Just disagree with the categorical characterization of 40 year old athletes abilities and level of quantitative decline of bio markers or qualitative decline of health performance, independent of individual differences. I modified my lifts as a precaution not due to injury or soreness, because I don't compete, so your muscles don't care if you use dips or bench presses, weighted pushups,. etc. The avg soyboy has a test level of 320ng/nl. Mine is more than double that. I do take test boosters and for steroid alternatives and ego for my hobby of sport fucking 20's and 30's feminist thots. I look younger than I am and lie to them about my age/ occupation and evil misogynistic , fascist beliefs, ha ha. Sorry for the attacks, I'm a internet troll, (banned from OG,have to keep the troll caged) momentarily lost control.


why bother to modify your lifts if there is no significant "quantitative or qualitative decline"?


and this: "The avg soyboy has a test level of 320ng/nl........ Mine is more than double that. I do take test boosters and for steroid alternatives "????

how is that even prove a point?
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03-03-2019, 08:38 AM
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.....and Franco I do applaud and support your exercise efforts to be the best Old Man you can be Tongue I'm doing the same Big Grin


no HeavyWeights or Ultra-Running for me though, just general maintenance to maintain the structure
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03-03-2019, 09:43 AM (This post was last modified: 03-03-2019 09:45 AM by General Franco.)
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(03-03-2019 08:32 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 07:17 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 06:29 AM)karasu Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 06:06 AM)General Franco Wrote:  
(03-03-2019 06:01 AM)General Franco Wrote:  Obviously the young has an advantage. Aging is a fact of life but you are severely underestimating what a fit 40 year old can do( Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Randy Couture, George Foreman boxing at 50, Herschell Walker in MMA, the masters 100 meter sprint champion is just over 10 seconds, etc.)I'm well past 40 and can still outlift most 25 year olds who train. I have modified my training for my joints, though. For example, I use the Hammer strength deadlift, belt squat, leg press, V squat, weighted chins and dips, weighted pushups and other non barbell or modified barbell exercises. Although, I accept it won't last forever, it will last longer than a year or two. Are you a dumb teenager who thinks 30 year old are seniors or a middle aged slob who has given up?Huh


every one of your posts has unintentionally proven the point of the article

" I have modified my training for my joints, though.......I accept it won't last forever"


where did I EVER say that a 40s or older is unable to maintain a exercise habit?


I only agree with the author( wrestled at an extremely high level, ranked second in the World for Kickboxing, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu World Champion, fought in UFC) in his narrative of age/exercise.

how does that even make me a dumb teenager/middle age slob?

are those attacks really necessary? why so emotional? Old Age Low-T perhaps? sorry I could not resist the opportunity to respond to those attacks Tongue
Well I agree with the author too. Just disagree with the categorical characterization of 40 year old athletes abilities and level of quantitative decline of bio markers or qualitative decline of health performance, independent of individual differences. I modified my lifts as a precaution not due to injury or soreness, because I don't compete, so your muscles don't care if you use dips or bench presses, weighted pushups,. etc. The avg soyboy has a test level of 320ng/nl. Mine is more than double that. I do take test boosters and for steroid alternatives and ego for my hobby of sport fucking 20's and 30's feminist thots. I look younger than I am and lie to them about my age/ occupation and evil misogynistic , fascist beliefs, ha ha. Sorry for the attacks, I'm a internet troll, (banned from OG,have to keep the troll caged) momentarily lost control.


why bother to modify your lifts if there is no significant "quantitative or qualitative decline"?


and this: "The avg soyboy has a test level of 320ng/nl........ Mine is more than double that. I do take test boosters and for steroid alternatives "????

how is that even prove a point?
Had sciatica injury in the past, which sometimes flares up if I overtrain or use sloppy form.i also use barbell lifts occasionallyto change my routine and test myself. Take test boosters and creatine as an alternative to steroids. Don't want to risk the potential health problems of steroid use. Need to be strong to protect myself from these dangerous guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-8v2+PU204. Recommend this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qEfhEvt06g
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