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J.Dempsey Appears to be Oriental?
02-08-2019, 04:52 AM
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and his birth was subject to an auspicious event where a peddler came to the home of his poor family which offered the peddler food and shelter resulting in the peddler offering a book of boxing to his mother which she often read to young Dempsey.......the ears, the auspicious birth....the compassionate nature....features of Orientalism.....and like the Buddha he experienced both the life of Luxury and the life of Poverty....very intriguing
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02-08-2019, 05:08 AM
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Dietbutcher your grandad looked like a bad ass then !!
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02-08-2019, 05:51 AM
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(02-08-2019 05:08 AM)billsuperfootwallace Wrote:  Dietbutcher your grandad looked like a bad ass then !!

haha... he told me he used to be a security officer before the communist revolution. I guess you gotta be somewhat of a badass to do security in those days.
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02-08-2019, 06:15 AM
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(02-08-2019 05:51 AM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 05:08 AM)billsuperfootwallace Wrote:  Dietbutcher your grandad looked like a bad ass then !!

haha... he told me he used to be a security officer before the communist revolution. I guess you gotta be somewhat of a badass to do security in those days.

Hungary's Commie revolution?
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02-09-2019, 09:29 AM
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Mestizos are the best hybrids in athletics, even a pinch of native blood can transfer over the chin, durability and killer instinct genes in many cases. Hendo is supposedly only 1/16 Walla Walla

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02-13-2019, 08:53 PM
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Dempsey was a killer back in his time. When he fought the World Champ Jess Willard, he was up against an opponent who was something like 6ft 7 and 250+ lbs.

Dempsey beat Willard like a red haired step-child and smashed bones in his face and knocked several teeth out. The fight went for a long time after it should have and there were no ref stoppages back then. I have seen the complete fight and have it on VHS but it is very hard to find an unedited copy online.

Willard lived to be 100 years old, and he went to his grave saying that Dempsey had "horseshoes in his gloves" meaning that he had illegal weights in his gloves. He stated this for the rest of his life after the fight.

It's strongly rumored that Dempsey had bet his entire fight purse on winning the fight, which is why he had incentive to give himself the edge.



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02-14-2019, 05:57 AM
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a 70s aged senior capable of fearlessly knocking out TWO street tuffs leads me to believe that Dempsey was the devastating puncher he is claimed to have been.


Also the auspicious boxing book birth legend adds paranormal credibility of his gift. "His mother was reading a book about a great fighter when Jack was born(gifted by a peddler to which she had offered food/rest I believe) so she felt as if this was prophetic for her son.-------(amazon review Julie Conlon
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02-14-2019, 07:04 AM
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Dempsey looks a little Russian to me.
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02-14-2019, 09:02 AM
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(02-14-2019 07:04 AM)pilgrim Wrote:  Dempsey looks a little Russian to me.

Oh snap! Big Grin

But who conquered who, Pilgrim, the Russians conquered the Mongols, or the Mongols conquered the Russians? Just joking around.

Many Russians do have an 'asiatic' look to them, especially if they are from Eastern Russia or have Tartar descent.

That is what a Mongol look means, to me, 50-60% Caucasian mixed with Chinese/Asian. I would say 50-50, but a lot of the time in a 50-50 mix the kids looks even more Chinese/Asian than Mongolians do!
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02-14-2019, 02:46 PM
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02-14-2019, 02:47 PM
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02-14-2019, 02:48 PM
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02-14-2019, 02:48 PM
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02-14-2019, 02:55 PM
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very fashionable athliesure casual; proper masculine attire, savage inside the ring, gentleman classy outside the ring, a timeless champion!
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02-14-2019, 06:44 PM
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Quote:GLOVES LOADED? DEMPSEY SAYS NO; Willard Supports Charges Made by Kearns


Jack Dempsey was charged yesterday with having used loaded gloves in 1919 when he won the heavyweight boxing title from Jess Willard. The accusation was made in the memoirs of the late Jack (Doc) Kearns, in a copyrighted feature in Sports Illustrated magazine. Dempsey denied the charge in the same article.


Kearns, who was Dempsey's manager, said he used plaster of paris and water in bandaging Dempsey's hands to insure a 10‐1 bet of $10,000 that Dempsey would win in one round. Dempsey won in three rounds.

Kearns said the fighter was “entirely innocent of what happened.”

“Afterward, when I cracked off the bandages and ditched them,” Kearns said, “he was so dumb at being the heavyweight champion of the world that you could have hit him with a hammer and he wouldn't have blinked an eye.”

Dempsey Is Quoted


Dempsey Is Quoted

The article quoted Dempsey as having commented, “RidicuIous! I could take an oath. In fact I will.”

Willard, now 82 years old, told Sports Illustrated:

“I'm glad that Kearns finally was man enough to admit it. . . . First time Dempsey hit me, I knew the gloves were loaded.”

Willard added:

“He cut me all to pieces and hammered my eyes closed—that's why they gave the title to him.”

Asked why Kearns might make such a charge, Dempsey replied, “That's the kind of a guy he was.”

Willard said:

“I've been trying for almost 45 years to get the story printed but nobody would believe me. They thought it was just a loser complaining. I'm glad Kearns has finally admitted it. My jaw is still caved in from the beating that fellow gave me with cement on his hands.”

‘Had to Hide a Smile'

In the article, Kearns said, “I had to hide a smile as the call came to enter the ring. Every punch, landing with the hollow sound of a mallet crunching into a watermelon, raised knots on him [Willard] or tore him open.”

Willard said:

“I had never been knocked down before, but he knocked me down four or five times in the first round. But I fooled them. I kept getting up.

“Dempsey left the ring—I guess to go take off the cement. They had to go get him and bring him back so they could officially give him the title. He never did knock me out—they gave him the title because my eyes were hammered closed.”

In the magazine, Kearns said:

“There may be those who will wonder how it could possibly be that Dempsey didn't know his gloves were loaded.

“Actually it isn't too surprising. He was young and this was the most unnerving day of his hungry life. Until the bell rang he was like a man who had been hypnotized.”

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https://www.nytimes.com/1964/01/09/archi...de-by.html
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