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02-06-2019, 03:44 AM
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(02-06-2019 12:52 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  ^ that's traditional mongolian wrestling

but it's highly compatible with sumo

it is likely that Japan has a healthy infusion of mongol genetics

Ainu?

I haven't done a full study of Japanese history just yet, but I remember taking a quick look once upon a time, and right after the 'failed Mongol invasions' the country fractured into dozens of competing war lords. Which is... Uhhh.... Sort of what you would expect with an ongoing invasion.

The 'Mongols' were really good at making alliances. For 'some reason' that part of their strategy gets completely overlooked, because it doesn't fit in with the mindless brutal savage stereotype. So they would have allied with a couple of coastal warlords (you know how it is when you have a grudge/rivalry and someone offers to help) and got down to business.

It isn't like they just had to defeat one army, or kill the emperor, or take the capital, and then the country is yours. It doesn't work like that.
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02-06-2019, 04:43 AM
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RE: Mongolian Sumo School Video
(02-06-2019 12:52 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  ^ that's traditional mongolian wrestling

but it's highly compatible with sumo

it is likely that Japan has a healthy infusion of mongol genetics

yea, thread was just a good opportunity to post that cool picture Big Grin
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02-06-2019, 11:29 AM
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RE: Mongolian Sumo School Video
(02-06-2019 03:44 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  
(02-06-2019 12:52 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  ^ that's traditional mongolian wrestling

but it's highly compatible with sumo

it is likely that Japan has a healthy infusion of mongol genetics

Ainu?

I haven't done a full study of Japanese history just yet, but I remember taking a quick look once upon a time, and right after the 'failed Mongol invasions' the country fractured into dozens of competing war lords. Which is... Uhhh.... Sort of what you would expect with an ongoing invasion.

The 'Mongols' were really good at making alliances. For 'some reason' that part of their strategy gets completely overlooked, because it doesn't fit in with the mindless brutal savage stereotype. So they would have allied with a couple of coastal warlords (you know how it is when you have a grudge/rivalry and someone offers to help) and got down to business.

It isn't like they just had to defeat one army, or kill the emperor, or take the capital, and then the country is yours. It doesn't work like that.

interesting fomenkian analysis

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02-06-2019, 12:29 PM
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RE: Mongolian Sumo School Video
(02-06-2019 11:29 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  
(02-06-2019 03:44 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  
(02-06-2019 12:52 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  ^ that's traditional mongolian wrestling

but it's highly compatible with sumo

it is likely that Japan has a healthy infusion of mongol genetics

Ainu?

I haven't done a full study of Japanese history just yet, but I remember taking a quick look once upon a time, and right after the 'failed Mongol invasions' the country fractured into dozens of competing war lords. Which is... Uhhh.... Sort of what you would expect with an ongoing invasion.

The 'Mongols' were really good at making alliances. For 'some reason' that part of their strategy gets completely overlooked, because it doesn't fit in with the mindless brutal savage stereotype. So they would have allied with a couple of coastal warlords (you know how it is when you have a grudge/rivalry and someone offers to help) and got down to business.

It isn't like they just had to defeat one army, or kill the emperor, or take the capital, and then the country is yours. It doesn't work like that.

interesting fomenkian analysis

I was reading something on Wiki today, and they just matter of factly state "Mongols did not make alliances". LOL

But wait, there is a citation! And it turns out both citations are from a book by the same author, some soyboy Englishman (I love when Englishman are the experts on 'Mongol' history, almost as good as finding an American expert) named Peter Jackson.

Now I remember. It was an article about an attempted 'Franco-Mongol alliance' in 1305. They have to admit there were communications, but say that it came to nothing and that "it never would have worked". Never mind there was a Franco-Ottoman alliance for a couple centuries, not that long after. G**damn clowns.

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