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12-04-2018, 03:27 AM
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It also occurred to me that perhaps the words 'Mongol' and 'mongrel' are related (although the latter derived from the prior, not a common origin, or anything like that).

Supposed to mean a mixed breed. Pretty fitting term for an empire built on alliances, disparaging though.
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12-04-2018, 03:49 AM
Post: #17
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the racist west uses various "mongol" related terms to imply retardation or something negative

Mongolian Idiociy is an actual word for Down syndrome in the west

peopel with down syndrome were also called mongoloids

what is funny is that on avg. mongoloids have the highest IQs in the world
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12-04-2018, 04:36 AM
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The first 'history of the Mongols' was called "Ystoria Mongalorum".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ystoria_Mongalorum

But don't worry, it was never altered or edited or anything. Its been passed down untouched from the 1240s...

Any way, what I find of interest is the name. Mongalorum.

Ystoria Mongalorum quos nos Tartaros appellamus ("History of the Mongols, which we call Tartars")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Rum
Rum

And then you have Romania. Rome-ania. Did you know that Romanian is considered a Latin language? Or rather, some Romanians consider Latin a Romanian language (Latin based on Romanian, as opposed to the other way around). No other language retains more Latin words and phrases (and apparently grammar) than Romanian.

Constantinople was of course called the New Rome. And Moscow, a few hundred years later, the Third Rome.

It calls into question the very idea that 'Rome' referred to a city in south-central Italy, and was more likely a much more generic term, meaning something like capital, or perhaps Religious Capital.

"The name Rûm was a synonym for Greek," according to Wiki. So they called Greeks, Romans. LOL. And meanwhile Greeks don't even call themselves Greeks, but rather Hellenic Republic'. The theory is that Greek was just synonymous with Christian. Greece -Chris(tos)
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12-04-2018, 04:54 AM
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very interesting. I always thought Romanian was a slavic language:

Quote:Is Romanian The closest language to Latin?
There is a common belief that Romanian is the closest language to Latin, but Romanian is probably only the closest in grammar. ... But, the pronunciation and vocabulary is not as similar to Latin when compared to Italian or Spanish. This is because Romanian was influenced by the surrounding Slavic languages.
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12-04-2018, 04:55 AM
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(12-04-2018 04:54 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  very interesting. I always thought Romanian was a slavic language:

Quote:Is Romanian The closest language to Latin?
There is a common belief that Romanian is the closest language to Latin, but Romanian is probably only the closest in grammar. ... But, the pronunciation and vocabulary is not as similar to Latin when compared to Italian or Spanish. This is because Romanian was influenced by the surrounding Slavic languages.

Pronounciation. LOL. Who gets to decide what is the correct pronounciation? Big Grin
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12-04-2018, 04:56 AM
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yeah , since there was no audio recording of people speaking authentic latin, a lot of the modern day pronunciations are just approximations
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12-04-2018, 11:48 AM
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Romanian is a Romance language which was heavily influenced by surrounding Slavic languages. The words Mongol and mongrel look similar but are completely unrelated etymologically.
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12-04-2018, 12:16 PM
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(12-04-2018 11:48 AM)Count Iblis Wrote:  Romanian is a Romance language which was heavily influenced by surrounding Slavic languages. The words Mongol and mongrel look similar but are completely unrelated etymologically.

'Romance' -> Roman-ce -> Latin. To say it is a Romance language is to say nothing at all.

Also to say that the etymology of mongol and mongrel are completed unrelated is patently ridiculous. Etymology is completely subjective.

Mong is supposed to come from old English meaning what? Mixed? Meng in Dutch to this day means to mix.

Now what is the etymology of Mongol? To say it is Mongolia is completely circular reasoning. Even if we say Mongol comes from 'megalion', which means 'great' or 'majestic' in Greek, then how can we say that the Mongol Empire did not inspire the word 'meng' or 'mong', by its mixed nature, i.e. the confederation or group of alliances of which it was composed?

Mongrel 1425–75; late Middle English

I.E. AFTER the Mongol empire existed.
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