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10-02-2018, 06:03 PM
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(10-02-2018 08:13 AM)Katsumi Wrote:  Mass mind control. That is very funny. This is nothing but a new twist on holding up color sheets at a football game to make pictures or words during halftime fifty years ago.

A wave is usually a grassroots thing. It's sloppy and imperfect. This is something else.

Nice try though.
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10-02-2018, 09:06 PM
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(10-02-2018 06:03 PM)kungfool Wrote:  A wave is usually a grassroots thing. It's sloppy and imperfect. This is something else.

Nice try though.

A wave?

What are you talking about? Holding up sheets of paper to form pictures or words is a wave?

Mass mind control at the Rose Bowl 1961.

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The BTS Light Stick Ver. 3 is the new version.

Nice try, though.
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10-02-2018, 10:01 PM
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have to agree with Katsumi here

the lights are not mass mind control

but the pop group is
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10-02-2018, 10:04 PM
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One of the greatest pranks of all time.

Caltech (California Institute of Technology) students surreptitiously altered thousands of the Washington Huskies’ cheerleaders' instruction cards. During halftime, when the Huskies fans held up their papers, it spelt "Caltech". Not "Huskies".

That is very funny. People knew the difference between doing the wave and spelling words with paper in the olden days.

Washington Huskies, 17. Minnesota Golden Gophers, 7.

Caltech doesn't even have a football team.

This gives me one of my good ideas. I am thinking of reprogramming a Bluetooth signal to disrupt the BTS Light Stick Ver. 3 to spell "勝美".

Mass mind control.
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10-02-2018, 10:05 PM
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victory of beauty huh?
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10-03-2018, 03:27 AM
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That's my name.
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10-03-2018, 08:14 PM
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the kpop girl groups have all but disappeared from public consciousness

Quote:Where Are The K-Pop Girl Groups In America In 2017?
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SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA - JANUARY 19: South Korean girl group Girls' Generation perform on stage during the 21st High1 Seoul Music Awards at Olympic gymnasium on January 19, 2012 in Seoul, South Korea. (Photo by Chung Sung-Jun/Getty Images)

When South Korean girl group Girls’ Generation appeared on The David Letterman Show in early 2012 to perform the English rendition of “The Boys,” they were the first K-pop act to appear on prime-time American network television.

Five years after they and other contemporary female acts attempted to break into the U.S. market, the song’s hook of “girls bring the boys out” has proved prophetic. While K-pop's women were the leaders of the first wave into the stateside scene, nowadays it is male K-pop acts that are making big moves, with hardly a female act in sight.

One of the dominant girl groups in Korea’s music industry since their megahit “Gee” in 2009, Girls’ Generation was one of several prominent female acts in the late '00s and early '10s that aimed to move into the U.S. market through English-language releases and dedicated activities in America. BoA, a popular soloist, released a namesake English-language album in 2009 that became the first-ever Korean album to appear on the Billboard 200 chart. Wonder Girls saw moderate success with English-language tracks and even became the first K-pop act on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, toured on their own and with The Jonas Brothers, and even had a made-for-TV movie. 2NE1 became the first K-pop girl group to hold an arena show in the States, appeared in major ad campaigns and made waves through musical and fashion collaborations.

Male artists like Rain and Se7en similarly actively pursued the market even as other K-pop acts began holding stateside concerts, but until Psy and Bigbang hit it big in the latter half of 2012, K-pop’s biggest moments in the U.S. belonged to women.


But despite these major achievements a few years back, K-pop women are a rarity in the stateside market at a time when the Korean music industry is making waves in a big way. The last few months of 2017 in particular have seen the rise of K-pop to America’s pop consciousness with BTS’ impressive charting records and a variety of television appearances, including the penultimate performance at this year’s AMAs. But the septet is far from being the only K-pop boy band that has hit the U.S. shores this year; more than a dozen boy bands and male solo artists have held concert tours in the States.

Compared to the consistent push of girl groups a few years ago, America’s K-pop scene has shifted away from women: less than 10 girl groups attended K-pop-oriented music festivals, including KCON and a Korean music-focused event at SXSW, and there wasn't a single girl group that toured this year. Meanwhile, the only female acts to hold stand-alone concerts this year were soloists with distinct identities: Jessi, a Korean-American hip-hop artist, HyunA, a pop star known for her sex appeal, and appearing in “Gangnam Style,” Ailee and Hyolyn, both rich-toned divas. KARD, a co-ed quartet, was the only K-pop act to feature more than one woman touring the States this year. Last year was a bit better with CL, the front-woman of the now-defunct 2NE1, and the girl group Apink hosting solo tours in the States.


While much of the year’s relative lack of interest in female musicians in America may explain the shift in the winds, JooJong Joe, the President and CEO of YG Entertainment USA, the company behind acts like Bigbang, 2NE1 and Blackpink, thinks the change reflects less American music trends than Korean ones: the female K-pop acts who attempted to make it in America a few years ago did so because of their local success rather than interest from the local market. “Usually Korean artists when they’re popular in Korea, they go to Japan, and every single group did that,” said Joe. “[2NE1, Girls' Generation and Wonder Girls] were really popular in Japan, and when you’re out to tour obviously the U.S. is a big live event market, and I think they saw the opportunity here.”

But even though female acts were primarily propelled a few years back by their popularity in Asia to come to the U.S, the most recent batch of male acts heading stateside have taken an alternative approach and seen much success. Nowadays, social media has driven much of K-pop’s growth in America, as it has enabled fans to engage and request specific K-pop acts; social media platforms like Twitter have helped raise awareness of acts, with BTS’ fandom ARMY in particular becoming a force to be reckoned thanks to multiple dedicated campaigns based around raising awareness and promoting the band's music. But even the handful of female acts that have large followings among international K-pop fans, like Red Velvet, Twice and Blackpink, the last of which has seen their music appear in the Justice League film and on The Bold Type, haven't seen enough fan-driven momentum to bring these acts stateside.


With the waning popularity of girl groups in Korea as the industry sees a generational shift where older acts are breaking up and newer ones are still finding their footing, fewer female acts are heading overseas. Yet male counterparts, even less popular ones, are still able to fill venues around the world; many mid or low-tier K-pop boy bands have toured the U.S. in recent years hoping to bolster their career. But Korean girl groups are even struggling at home, with most female pop acts unable to fill larger concert venues whereas even lesser-known male acts are propelled by fiercly dedicated fan bases, which few woman-fronted acts have. “Even if [the girl group’s fandom] is big, it’s not big enough to have an arena tour [in Korea] usually,” said Joe.

K-pop girl groups are also a lot harder to sell than male acts to local audiences according to Crystal Anderson, a research scholar of Cultural Studies at Longwood University with a particular focus on digital fan studies. But while the U.S. is familiar with popular boy bands, girl groups are far rarer, and K-pop’s groups in 2017 don't necessarily resonate to American fans in a way their predecessors were able to. Cute and innocent trappings are popular for female teams as of late in Korea, while the previous generation was a bit more diverse conceptually: 2NE1’s empowering edginess, Girls’ Generation’s sophisticated girl-next-door charm, and Wonder Girls’ retro vibe each attracted huge fanbases. Most of the successful girl groups formed in the late ‘00s and early ‘10s also similarly veered towards more mature styling and sounds, but recently Korea's seen the return of a vivacious brand of girlish bubblegum pop acts. There are some alternatives, but the current crop of K-pop girl groups, even the forerunners, veer far more towards sugar rather than the spice of the previous generation.

“There are a lot of other expectations placed on the female acts that also may limit them from being able to make that crossover,” said Anderson. “There’s the kind of images of women that female artists have to negotiate in terms of: Are they too sexy? Are they too cute? Are they one or the other? Are they both? Can they be neither? Can they be something else?”


Between the lack of fan-provoked impetus, wavering popularity and the trials of marketing to American audiences, it’s a bit of a dry period for fans of Korean girl groups in the States. Whether that will change in 2018 remains to be seen, but there’s hope for K-pop girl group fans as Korean music in general is seeing a rise in interest from the U.S and female acts may be able to use that as a way to bounce back into the touring circuit.

-FORBES
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10-05-2018, 12:41 AM
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(10-02-2018 06:03 PM)kungfool Wrote:  A wave is usually a grassroots thing. It's sloppy and imperfect. This is something else.

Nice try though.

What an idiot. He should change the "g" to "t".
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10-08-2018, 03:19 PM
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BTS fans camp out ahead of this weekend's concert:



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10-08-2018, 09:00 PM
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Sometimes having tickets is only half the battle. Who hasn't tried to upgrade to see their favorite band? I flew to Dallas in September to see Shonen Knife and SCANDAL concerts.
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10-09-2018, 04:08 AM
Post: #26
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(10-05-2018 12:41 AM)Katsumi Wrote:  
(10-02-2018 06:03 PM)kungfool Wrote:  A wave is usually a grassroots thing. It's sloppy and imperfect. This is something else.

Nice try though.

What an idiot. He should change the "g" to "t".

What a nasty personality. You'll make a husband miserable someday.
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10-09-2018, 04:53 AM
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(10-02-2018 06:03 PM)kungfool Wrote:  A wave is usually a grassroots thing. It's sloppy and imperfect. This is something else.

You impolitely accused me of confusing the wave with BTS Light Stick Ver. 3.

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As I mentioned, that is not a picture of a wave. It's mass mind control at the Rose Bowl in 1961. A cheering section holding paper to make pictures and words. Reached it's zenith during 1970s when Chinese stadiums would form portraits of Chairman Mao and communist slogans.

Nothing to do with the wave.

The BTS Light Stick is the modern update.

I corrected you in the same manner you addressed me. Or your previous comment.

(10-02-2018 07:28 AM)kungfool Wrote:  I hate this. It looks like mass mind-control. You can keep your glow-sticks too.

An average bar with a mediocre blues-band > this gay shit.

Now you are butthurt. You had the chance to be an adult and apologize. Can't keep a civil tongue in your head.

You seem like the type who'd beat his significant other but you probably don't have any relationships with your poor attitude.

If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
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10-09-2018, 06:48 AM
Post: #28
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(10-09-2018 04:53 AM)Katsumi Wrote:  You impolitely accused me of confusing the wave with BTS Light Stick Ver. 3.

Now you are butthurt. You had the chance to be an adult and apologize. Can't keep a civil tongue in your head.

You seem like the type who'd beat his significant other but you probably don't have any relationships with your poor attitude.

Lolmao is this what you're crying about?

To be totally straight-forward, when I look at either of these things, they appear like a form of crowd-control to me and I dislike them. It's a gut reaction, not an intellectual argument.

You like Bluetooth controlled glow-sticks and K-Pop boy-bands. Cool. I don't. This isn't personal. Don't make it personal.
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10-09-2018, 08:33 AM
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(10-09-2018 06:48 AM)kungfool Wrote:  You like Bluetooth controlled glow-sticks and K-Pop boy-bands.

(10-02-2018 08:13 AM)Katsumi Wrote:  Not fond of boy bands.

(10-09-2018 06:48 AM)kungfool Wrote:  This isn't personal. Don't make it personal.

You made it personal. I dislike boy bands and I said the Light Stick is the wave of the future, not that I liked them.

You are a crybaby and a liar.
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06-13-2019, 02:57 AM
Post: #30
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2 sold out shows at WEMBLY STADIUM lol. What does dong have to say about this?



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