July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?

[EVILYOSHIDA]

(08-03-2020 06:19 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  

(08-03-2020 04:44 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  or maybe those were made later? were those shown in the 70's?
IIRC they touched up some of the photos after the fact in the 90's

I think the photos were much more important for PR purposes than the video footage was (except for 'one small step for man' video footage from Apollo 11).

It would be interesting to find out how long after the missions the buggy footage was released to the public.

Strikes me as the same as the CG budget for a film. You get a lot of money for a short, important scene, and less money for a longer, but less vital scene.

Bad CG from Avatar that you don't remember, because a lot of it was stunning"


I can see why denying Kubrick's involvement is so central to the 'hoax believers'. Because his death, 6 days after airing his final cut of Eyes Wide Shut, is one of the most fishy deaths in the last 50 years! Easily top 10.

why would Kubrick keep referencing Apollo if he wasn't involved?
it almost seemed as his paranoia consumed him so much he put clues in his later movies.

[KurtDangle]

(08-03-2020 03:27 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  

(08-03-2020 06:19 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  

(08-03-2020 04:44 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  or maybe those were made later? were those shown in the 70's?
IIRC they touched up some of the photos after the fact in the 90's

I think the photos were much more important for PR purposes than the video footage was (except for 'one small step for man' video footage from Apollo 11).

It would be interesting to find out how long after the missions the buggy footage was released to the public.

Strikes me as the same as the CG budget for a film. You get a lot of money for a short, important scene, and less money for a longer, but less vital scene.

Bad CG from Avatar that you don't remember, because a lot of it was stunning"


I can see why denying Kubrick's involvement is so central to the 'hoax believers'. Because his death, 6 days after airing his final cut of Eyes Wide Shut, is one of the most fishy deaths in the last 50 years! Easily top 10.

why would Kubrick keep referencing Apollo if he wasn't involved?
it almost seemed as his paranoia consumed him so much he put clues in his later movies.

the one and ONLY reference to apollo is the sweater.

the rest is just reaching.

[jho]

(08-03-2020 03:39 PM)KurtDangle Wrote:  the one and ONLY reference to apollo is the sweater.

the rest is just reaching.

The moon is 237,000 miles away on average given the time of year, and NASA traveled 237,000 miles according to their own estimates.

During Apollo's first broadcast from space showing the earth, they were supposedly 237,000 km away.




https://www.space.com/26565-apollo-11-mo...day-2.html

Quote:At 12:17 p.m., Armstrong and his crew fired the engines on Columbia for three seconds to make a brief course correction. The procedure was also supposed to test how well the engines were working, an important milestone given that Columbia needed to use them to get into and out of lunar orbit.

About seven hours later, the crew did a color television broadcast from the spacecraft, showing viewers what Earth looks like from about 147,300 miles (237,000 kilometers) away. The program lasted 36 minutes and was broadcast to people all over the world.

[KurtDangle]

(08-03-2020 04:02 PM)jho Wrote:  

(08-03-2020 03:39 PM)KurtDangle Wrote:  the one and ONLY reference to apollo is the sweater.

the rest is just reaching.

The moon is 237,000 miles away on average given the time of year, and NASA traveled 237,000 miles according to their own estimates.

During Apollo's first broadcast from space showing the earth, they were supposedly 237,000 km away.

https://www.space.com/26565-apollo-11-mo...day-2.html

Quote:At 12:17 p.m., Armstrong and his crew fired the engines on Columbia for three seconds to make a brief course correction. The procedure was also supposed to test how well the engines were working, an important milestone given that Columbia needed to use them to get into and out of lunar orbit.

About seven hours later, the crew did a color television broadcast from the spacecraft, showing viewers what Earth looks like from about 147,300 miles (237,000 kilometers) away. The program lasted 36 minutes and was broadcast to people all over the world.

in what math equation does 237 = 237000 ?

[Chaos Reigns]

(08-03-2020 01:45 PM)KurtDangle Wrote:  

(08-02-2020 11:46 PM)Redneck Wrote:  ^^^ So fake

ah the old circular thing.

the video is fake
how do you know?
look at the video.

The footage has a real 'off-world 1/6th gravity' feel to it, don't it?

LOL, cmon PP.

The fixed location of the camera (in most shots). The slow panning? Perfect for killing time, and easy set design/front screen projection.

A moving camera, like the rover shots, that is tough on a set that is smaller than the location you are trying to portray.

That's why they had to go w/ scale models.

Face it, there are no credible current plans by ANYONE to put a man on the Moon. Any nation or company on Earth!

[EVILYOSHIDA]

unless it's aliens, I see no reason why humans haven't gone back.

the alien thing gets discredited as we are still sending rovers and orbiters to the moon and they aren't getting shot down.

[EVILYOSHIDA]

Here is another reference to rockets in the shining

[KurtDangle]

(08-03-2020 03:22 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  it's not really any single one piece of evidence that calls the moon landing into question.

it's the CONFLUENCE of 100s of anomalies and oddities that really makes one wonder.

most importantly is the techno-historical anomaly of technology going backwards.

you don't go from traveling 250,000 miles and landing on an alien planet with men on board and THEN coming back

to hanging out in low earth orbit for the past 5 decades.

technology does not work that way.

it used to be possible to fly at supersonic speeds on an airliner. designed 50 years ago.

now it is no longer possible.

technology does work that way sometimes

[EVILYOSHIDA]

you're talking about the concorde.

the diff. is there are planes way faster than the concorde. way more advanced. it just didn't make sense for commercial purposes.

the apollo missions were cutting edge science that should have been improved upon to trickle down to all sectors of military tech dev.

[KurtDangle]

there are no airliners faster than the concorde.

you are right, it didnt make financial sense to continue with concorde, same as the apollo program

who told you apollo tech did not trickle down to military tech ? military satellite, gps, icbm, and rocket tech, all advanced because of apollo

[KurtDangle]

(08-03-2020 04:41 PM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Face it, there are no credible current plans by ANYONE to put a man on the Moon. Any nation or company on Earth!

China and the US both have plans to put another man on the moon

[EVILYOSHIDA]

(08-04-2020 12:40 AM)KurtDangle Wrote:  there are no airliners faster than the concorde.

you are right, it didnt make financial sense to continue with concorde, same as the apollo program

who told you apollo tech did not trickle down to military tech ? military satellite, gps, icbm, and rocket tech, all advanced because of apollo

You would continue developing that tech. you wouldn't abandon it.
The US spends trillions just to give people of color freedom fries.
Why would they abandon the most advanced tech program the world has ever seen?
Why ditch the capability to land on alien planets?

[KurtDangle]

(08-04-2020 01:05 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  

(08-04-2020 12:40 AM)KurtDangle Wrote:  there are no airliners faster than the concorde.

you are right, it didnt make financial sense to continue with concorde, same as the apollo program

who told you apollo tech did not trickle down to military tech ? military satellite, gps, icbm, and rocket tech, all advanced because of apollo

You would continue developing that tech. you wouldn't abandon it.
The US spends trillions just to give people of color freedom fries.
Why would they abandon the most advanced tech program the world has ever seen?
Why ditch the capability to land on alien planets?

the US almost stopped the apollo program in the 60s because it cost to much.

2 times in the 1960s the US reached out to russia to make it a joint effort (to share the costs)

in the 70s the cost was too much

[Chaos Reigns]

(08-04-2020 12:48 AM)KurtDangle Wrote:  

(08-03-2020 04:41 PM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  Face it, there are no credible current plans by ANYONE to put a man on the Moon. Any nation or company on Earth!

China and the US both have plans to put another man on the moon

Please provide the (hard) details of these plans. I.E. schedules and dates and timelines and the heavy lifter they plan to use.

For bonus points, include plans from the last 30 years that were made, but either delayed or cancelled outright.

[Chaos Reigns]

(08-03-2020 04:02 PM)jho Wrote:  

(08-03-2020 03:39 PM)KurtDangle Wrote:  the one and ONLY reference to apollo is the sweater.

the rest is just reaching.

The moon is 237,000 miles away on average given the time of year, and NASA traveled 237,000 miles according to their own estimates.

During Apollo's first broadcast from space showing the earth, they were supposedly 237,000 km away.




https://www.space.com/26565-apollo-11-mo...day-2.html

Quote:At 12:17 p.m., Armstrong and his crew fired the engines on Columbia for three seconds to make a brief course correction. The procedure was also supposed to test how well the engines were working, an important milestone given that Columbia needed to use them to get into and out of lunar orbit.

About seven hours later, the crew did a color television broadcast from the spacecraft, showing viewers what Earth looks like from about 147,300 miles (237,000 kilometers) away. The program lasted 36 minutes and was broadcast to people all over the world.

Stop reaching bro! Its all just a reach! OK, so the kid has a hand-knitted sweater with Apollo 11 on it, that he wears ONCE in the movie, at the most pivotal part of the film, he stands up like a rocket and goes to a room 237, which is the (avg) distance to the Moon, in thousands of kms.

In the room the boy encounters a 'three-faced' lunar goddess, that first seduces him then turns into a literal nightmare. So what?

Its not like Kubrick was hanging out with Ridley Scott, who was at the cutting edge of subliminals used in advertising, at the time, or anything. Oh wait.

Kubrick scheduling the release of Eyes Wide Shut for the 30th anniversary of the Apollo 11 launch is just a reach! Got it! ITS ALL REACHING!

The first dialogue spoken in Clockwork Orange, happening to be about men on the Moon? Its all a reach! Stop reaching!!!! REEEEEE!!!!