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July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
10-11-2018, 04:41 AM
Post: #316
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
another interesting tie in... seems like they allowed some guy to defame Kubrick towards the end of his life:

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Alan Conway (1934 – 5 December 1998) was an English conman, best known for impersonating film director Stanley Kubrick. Conway and his wife were travel agents with offices in Harrow, Muswell Hill and London.


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1 Early years
2 Kubrick impersonation
3 See also
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Early years
Alan Conway was born Eddie Alan Jablowsky in Whitechapel London in 1934. At the age of 13 he was sent to a borstal for theft. Around this time, he began frequently changing his name and inventing personal histories. Among other stories, he told people he was a Polish Jew who had been imprisoned in a Nazi concentration camp.[1]

During the 1980s, Conway (who was homosexual)[2] left his wife for a male lover who later died of AIDS. Conway's business soon collapsed and he descended into alcoholism.[1]

Kubrick impersonation
Conway's impersonations of director Stanley Kubrick occurred during the early 1990s, by which time Kubrick had been withdrawn from public view for about 15 years. Kubrick had also worn a beard since the late 1960s and Conway was clean-shaven, allowing his impersonation to appear more legitimate. He convinced several figures in the entertainment industry that he was the famed director, promising them both roles in films and exclusive interviews. On occasion, he conned others into paying for meals, claiming his studio would reimburse them.

Frank Rich, a theatre critic for The New York Times, was taken in by Conway's act in Joe Allen's restaurant when he invited Conway and his friends to join him at his table. Rich was so convinced by Conway's act that he later said that he thought Stanley Kubrick was homosexual after meeting Conway. Rich and his journalist friends were excited at the prospect of an exclusive interview with "Stanley Kubrick", only later discovering that he was, in fact, an impostor after contacting executives at Warner Brothers who were aware of the scam but had been unable to identify the imposter.

Kubrick's lawyer was apprised of the scam and, when he informed Kubrick of the impostor, Kubrick was said to be fascinated by the idea. Kubrick's wife, Christiane, was less impressed with it. As she later reflected: "It was an absolute nightmare. This strange doppelgänger who was pretending to be Stanley. Can you imagine the horror?"[3]

Conway was tracked down in part through the efforts of Kubrick's personal assistant Anthony Frewin,[4] who went on to write the screenplay for the 2006 film Colour Me Kubrick based on these incidents, with John Malkovich starring as Conway.

Conway died in December 1998 of a heart attack three months before Kubrick's death, also from a heart attack, in March 1999.

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10-11-2018, 04:50 AM
Post: #317
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
rare behind the scenes with kubrick



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10-11-2018, 06:05 AM
Post: #318
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
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Prescott Bush and Nixon. Who is President for ALL manned missions to the Moon? Nixon.

That is a picture of a straight mob boss, and one of his top associates. Oh sorry, I mean it is a former senator from Connecticut, with a future President.
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10-11-2018, 06:20 AM
Post: #319
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CORRUPTICUT!
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10-12-2018, 10:03 AM
Post: #320
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
so, chaosreigns-

what is your theory on what really happened?. ( thanks for the breakdown on how impossible it would be to get back from the moon).
How about you EY, what is your final theory on what happend?
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10-12-2018, 10:08 AM
Post: #321
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it was a closed operation so I don't know

but I think the surveyor and some of the robotic missions were real

its' possible they used surveyor and the moon orbiter to snap real pics of the moon and then constructed elaborate sets using front end projection techniques to fake at least parts of the moon landing

the thing is there are so many military applications with the tech involved it would have been ENTIRELY STUPID to abandon the technology

if you have the tech to go to the moon land and come back, the trickle down effect towards military technology on earth would be GINORMOUS

but it was all ditched, all blueprints and telemetry gone... heck even the original moon landing tapes were WIPED

then you have neil armstrong handing out fake moonrocks to european royalty. no joke
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10-12-2018, 10:10 AM (This post was last modified: 10-12-2018 10:12 AM by trevorrice.)
Post: #322
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
Neil Armstrong is the biggest reason, i dont believe it. So shady about it and very wierd about the whole thing. If I landed on the Moon, i would have a step by step explanation of what happend, what i saw, every detail no matter how small.


Body language -- (not good)


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10-12-2018, 10:12 AM
Post: #323
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
he lived in seclusion for decades, only making a few appearances here and there

if you landed on the moon, you'd be far more active in promoting it

and the whole "he didn't like publicity" thing is hogwash.. if he didn't like publicity he would have given the job of landing first on the moon to someone else..
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10-12-2018, 10:13 AM
Post: #324
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exactly!! You summed it perfect!! He would be on tons of podiums talking about his Moon experience etc. If you dont want the fame- you aint going up there.
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10-12-2018, 10:18 AM
Post: #325
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yep. if you didn't like attention or taking credit why be the first man to land on the moon?

why not give the position to buzz?
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10-12-2018, 10:19 AM
Post: #326
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Right ! Also so shady almost guilty when talking about going to the moon
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10-12-2018, 10:26 AM
Post: #327
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
even if you were dead tired.. you would be so EXCITED due to the accomplishment of being the first men to land on an alien planet

the adrenaline would last for MONTHS

esp. back then when the news cycle was slower

yet these guys looked GUILTY as hell.. like schoolchildren being questioned by the principal

UHHHHH
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10-12-2018, 12:46 PM
Post: #328
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
give off the vibe that they commited a crime instead of landed on the moon. So weird.
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10-12-2018, 01:31 PM
Post: #329
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
tommorrow they are going to release the movie the first man

should be interesting
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10-13-2018, 03:04 AM
Post: #330
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
(10-12-2018 10:08 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  it was a closed operation so I don't know

but I think the surveyor and some of the robotic missions were real

its' possible they used surveyor and the moon orbiter to snap real pics of the moon and then constructed elaborate sets using front end projection techniques to fake at least parts of the moon landing

the thing is there are so many military applications with the tech involved it would have been ENTIRELY STUPID to abandon the technology

if you have the tech to go to the moon land and come back, the trickle down effect towards military technology on earth would be GINORMOUS

but it was all ditched, all blueprints and telemetry gone... heck even the original moon landing tapes were WIPED

then you have neil armstrong handing out fake moonrocks to european royalty. no joke

Pretty much spot on, EY.

They didn't fake anything they didn't have to. So if they could get shots of the Moon's surface, they would take those shots and either use them, or use them to create a model/airbrush.

Just take a look at this pic. Hi res, and large, so I didn't embed it, but it is 'Hadley Rille' on the 'Moon'.
https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15dmh1231715.jpg

That is great quality, but uh.... That is obviously a composite. Foreground + background. Now, the 'rille'/valley looks great but uhhh...
"The steep-walled valley,[is] about 1.5 km (0.9 mile) wide and 400 metres (1,300 feet) deep,"

Really? 1.5km wide and 400m deep? This looks 40m wide and 10m deep. I am wondering if they didn't just make something on a much smaller scale than even that, and then just take photos from the appropriate angle, and then frontscreen project them (or add them afterwards, or use them to then airbrush a big background).

[Image: Thunderbirds-Are-Go-Models-029.jpg]

It is amazing how many of the Apollo 11 photos are of the astronaut's feet, or just a flat horizon (no stars of course).

[Image: 04-AS11-37-5452-mondlandschaft-04-schattenchaos.jpg]

Apparently they were experimenting with dynamite and probably lesser explosives to 'simulate' a cratered landscape. It gives you the benefit of craters AND the dirt will settle down in a nice 'alien world' pattern, small rocks, dirt, etc.

I think they used every trick in the book, to not get people used to just one (and also why they used British SFX artists/front screen projection, which was discontinued in favor of computer graphics by the time Star Wars rolled around 5-6 years post-Apollo). Some were done with models and miniatures, I have little doubt.

[Image: moonshorty_apollo17_1498.jpg]

Were the astronauts orbiting the Earth, while the missions were underway? Possibly. Not for every mission necessarily. Were real rockets launched? yes. Manned? Well, the rockets split into different parts, so very possible the manned part stayed in Earth orbit, and the unmanned probe (that they will use to relay radio signals) is legit sent to the Moon.

Everyone involved was told every lie under the Sun for why they had to remain quiet, but I can almost guarantee you they were told "We are going to go for real in about 5 years". Astronauts may be good at a lot of things, but were they experts in rocket technology and radiation?
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