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July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
08-30-2018, 01:42 PM
Post: #241
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
(08-30-2018 10:43 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  
(08-30-2018 10:18 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  [Image: Stanley-Kubrick_2001-odyssee-de-l-espace.jpeg][Image: Stanley-Kubrick_2001-odyssee-de-l-espace.jpeg][Image: Stanley-Kubrick_2001-odyssee-de-l-espace.jpeg][Image: Stanley-Kubrick_2001-odyssee-de-l-espace.jpeg][Image: Stanley-Kubrick_2001-odyssee-de-l-espace.jpeg][Image: Stanley-Kubrick_2001-odyssee-de-l-espace.jpeg][Image: Stanley-Kubrick_2001-odyssee-de-l-espace.jpeg][Image: Stanley-Kubrick_2001-odyssee-de-l-espace.jpeg][Image: Stanley-Kubrick_2001-odyssee-de-l-espace.jpeg]

This just shows as 9 copies of the same pic of Kubrick. Is that what you were going for? Big Grin

yah ahahah

i posted it because he displays his signature paranoid post apollo look

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08-30-2018, 02:01 PM
Post: #242
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
Kubrick before 2001 AKA The Apollo R&D Project.
[Image: tumblr_m3yixogC9A1rpf9sro1_500.png]

EY's photos are DURING 2001/Apollo's filming!

Jack Nicholson at the start of The Shining (representing Kubrick before 2001?):
[Image: The-Shining-jack-nicholson-26184665-762-570.jpg]

Jack Nicholson after 'losing it' in The Shining (Kubrick during/after Apollo?):
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08-30-2018, 02:03 PM
Post: #243
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
He actually looks a lot like Kubrick.

I wonder if filming didn't allow time for the full beard growth or what.

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08-30-2018, 03:33 PM
Post: #244
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
there are rumors that Kubrick's wife told Jay Weidner some secret stuff about the Apollo footage.

Or it could be Jay BSing.

the thing about Jay is that he actually thinks men have landed on the moon using ALIEN technology

disinfo?

hmmm
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08-30-2018, 04:15 PM
Post: #245
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
(08-30-2018 03:33 PM)pug-thug Wrote:  there are rumors that Kubrick's wife told Jay Weidner some secret stuff about the Apollo footage.

Or it could be Jay BSing.

the thing about Jay is that he actually thinks men have landed on the moon using ALIEN technology

disinfo?

hmmm

Well, same as my use of the word 'allegedly'. It seems that if you go full blown 'the US government lied about landing men on the Moon', without any of the disinfo caveats there will be a lot of pressure placed on you. So people have to say ridiculous shit about "I think they really went, but the footage we saw was definitely faked", or "Yeah, the Secret Space Program, brah." "Aliens, brah". "Earth is flat, and there is a firmament, brah".

Just about all the prominent Moon landing skeptics have some sort of caveat that they apply. Rogan's "Then I realized I don't actually know shit hahaha"
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08-31-2018, 07:02 AM
Post: #246
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
So we got 3 prominent (astronaut) deaths in early 1967, with the suspicious Apollo 1 fire.

Then we've got 3 deaths (1 contractor, two family members) in mid-1967 (basically while the disinfo program would be in full swing) with Thomas Baron and his family.

Any one else? Well, there were some test pilots that died, either just before or after this time, but I can't prove that they were closely connected to Apollo, although obviously test pilots were top candidates for the astronaut program (similar psych profile and skills needed).

So here are 5 (!) more astronauts connected to Apollo that not only died in somewhat suspicious circumstances but for some there are additional reason to believe they may have been ready to 'spill the beans'.

7. Clifton C. Williams
Mr Williams was scheduled to be the 4th person to walk on the Moon, i.e. part of Apollo 12. He died October 5, 1967, in... A plane crash! Gee, if there is an agency that specializes in (death by crashing) aircraft, would you guys let me know? Apparently he ejected from 1200 ft but it didn't save him.

"The jet was flying at 6,800 m (22,300 ft) when it performed a sudden roll to the left and dived into the ground, almost straight down, at 1,125 km/h (699 mph). Williams ejected at 450 m (1,480 ft) altitude"

Sounds like he waited a while to eject! I don't believe any of it. Either sabotage, or could have even been shot down. That should keep the other astronauts quiet for a bit longer!

He was replaced by Alan Bean, below.
[Image: AlanBean0005.jpg]

8. Edward Givens died... "On June 6, 1967, Givens was driving his Volkswagen home from a meeting of the Quiet Birdmen fraternal organization, with two other officers, when he missed a sharp, unmarked turn and crashed into a ditch in Pearland, Texas, near Johnson Space Center. Givens died on the way to hospital"

"Selected by NASA in 1966 as a member of the fifth astronaut group, he died in an automobile accident before being assigned to a prime or backup spaceflight crew"

Sounds like someone may not have had the right stuff to be a QUIET birdman!


9. Jack Swigert, died December 27, 1982 from cancer. He was on the Apollo 13 mission, so not ON the Moon, but allegedly to, and around the Moon. Also a member of the 'Quiet Birdmen'. He was elected to public office but died from cancer before taking office (maybe that credibility and public visibility would have helped him stay alive if he went public).

10. James Irwin. He is an interesting one because he was allegedly in contact with Bill Kaysing shortly before his death! Tough to prove, but that is the allegation. Also interesting because he was a 'born again Christian', which could indicate he was feeling guilty and ready to 'confess his sins'.

"Of the 12 men who have walked on the moon, Irwin was the first to die."

"On August 8, 1991, Irwin suffered a... heart attack.... Attempts at resuscitation were unsuccessful, and Irwin died later that day in the hospital."

11. Pete Conrad. This is an interesting one, as it is less than TWO WEEKS before the 30 year anniversary of the Apollo 11 'manned Moon landing'. Also right around the release of Eyes Wide Shut, and shortly after the death of Stanley Kubrick. I wonder if they had been in contact?
Dead July 8, 1999. Conrad was a part of Apollo 12, the mission where they famously 'broke' the video camera about 30 seconds into the mission! If you believe that... "Conrad died on July 8, 1999, from internal injuries sustained in a motorcycle accident."

An accident where he was going the speed limit, and wearing his helmet.

[Image: Fallen_Astronaut.jpg]

What a bunch of pricks, stuck a hammer in the dirt (in studio?) and called it a 'Fallen Astronaut' monument'.

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08-31-2018, 07:06 AM
Post: #247
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
Alan bean was the one who famously said "I don't think we went through the van allen belts because they weren't discovered then"
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08-31-2018, 07:07 AM
Post: #248
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?




this is seriously LOL
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08-31-2018, 07:09 AM
Post: #249
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
the VARB would have been the most studied phenonemon in the intial stages.. and astronauts would have been worried as shit to be going through this

no one had ever done it..

yet this guy FORGETS if he went through the VARB

how is this even possible?

he's definitely not senile
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08-31-2018, 07:16 AM
Post: #250
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
(08-31-2018 07:09 AM)pug-thug Wrote:  the VARB would have been the most studied phenonemon in the intial stages.. and astronauts would have been worried as shit to be going through this

no one had ever done it..

yet this guy FORGETS if he went through the VARB

how is this even possible?

he's definitely not senile

Yep. I wonder if they told the astronauts about Starfish Prime!

"Starfish Prime was a July 9, 1962 high-altitude nuclear test " at an altitude of 250 miles.

[Image: STARFISH+PRIME+Test.jpg]

"the largest nuclear test conducted in outer space and one of five conducted by the US in space."

"While some of the energetic beta particles followed the Earth's magnetic field and illuminated the sky, other high-energy electrons became trapped and formed radiation belts around the Earth. There was much uncertainty and debate about the composition, magnitude and potential adverse effects from this trapped radiation after the detonation... At the time it was not known that solar and cosmic particle fluxes varied by a factor 10, and energies could exceed 1 MeV. In the months that followed these man-made radiation belts eventually caused six or more satellites to fail[12], as radiation damaged their solar arrays or electronics, including the first commercial relay communication satellite, Telstar, as well as the United Kingdom's first satellite, Ariel 1.[13][14][15][16] Detectors on Telstar, TRAAC, Injun, and Ariel 1 were used to measure distribution of the radiation produced by the tests.[17]

In 1963, it was reported that Starfish Prime had created a belt of MeV electrons.[18] In 1968, it was reported that some Starfish electrons had remained for 5 years"

Yeah, but the next year it was gone, so all good then, right???
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08-31-2018, 07:23 AM
Post: #251
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
I once read that Starfish prime was about trying to blast a hole through the radiation belts

or to see if it was possible
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08-31-2018, 07:24 AM
Post: #252
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
the van allen belts starts at around 250-300 miles.. so the altitude sort of matches.
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08-31-2018, 07:57 AM
Post: #253
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
(08-31-2018 07:02 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  So we got 3 prominent (astronaut) deaths in early 1967, with the suspicious Apollo 1 fire.

Then we've got 3 deaths (1 contractor, two family members) in mid-1967 (basically while the disinfo program would be in full swing) with Thomas Baron and his family.

Any one else? Well, there were some test pilots that died, either just before or after this time, but I can't prove that they were closely connected to Apollo, although obviously test pilots were top candidates for the astronaut program (similar psych profile and skills needed).

So here are 5 (!) more astronauts connected to Apollo that not only died in somewhat suspicious circumstances but for some there are additional reason to believe they may have been ready to 'spill the beans'.

7. Clifton C. Williams
Mr Williams was scheduled to be the 4th person to walk on the Moon, i.e. part of Apollo 12. He died October 5, 1967, in... A plane crash! Gee, if there is an agency that specializes in (death by crashing) aircraft, would you guys let me know? Apparently he ejected from 1200 ft but it didn't save him.

"The jet was flying at 6,800 m (22,300 ft) when it performed a sudden roll to the left and dived into the ground, almost straight down, at 1,125 km/h (699 mph). Williams ejected at 450 m (1,480 ft) altitude"

Sounds like he waited a while to eject! I don't believe any of it. Either sabotage, or could have even been shot down. That should keep the other astronauts quiet for a bit longer!

He was replaced by Alan Bean, below.
[Image: AlanBean0005.jpg]

8. Edward Givens died... "On June 6, 1967, Givens was driving his Volkswagen home from a meeting of the Quiet Birdmen fraternal organization, with two other officers, when he missed a sharp, unmarked turn and crashed into a ditch in Pearland, Texas, near Johnson Space Center. Givens died on the way to hospital"

"Selected by NASA in 1966 as a member of the fifth astronaut group, he died in an automobile accident before being assigned to a prime or backup spaceflight crew"

Sounds like someone may not have had the right stuff to be a QUIET birdman!


9. Jack Swigert, died December 27, 1982 from cancer. He was on the Apollo 13 mission, so not ON the Moon, but allegedly to, and around the Moon. Also a member of the 'Quiet Birdmen'. He was elected to public office but died from cancer before taking office (maybe that credibility and public visibility would have helped him stay alive if he went public).

10. James Irwin. He is an interesting one because he was allegedly in contact with Bill Kaysing shortly before his death! Tough to prove, but that is the allegation. Also interesting because he was a 'born again Christian', which could indicate he was feeling guilty and ready to 'confess his sins'.

"Of the 12 men who have walked on the moon, Irwin was the first to die."

"On August 8, 1991, Irwin suffered a... heart attack.... Attempts at resuscitation were unsuccessful, and Irwin died later that day in the hospital."

11. Pete Conrad. This is an interesting one, as it is less than TWO WEEKS before the 30 year anniversary of the Apollo 11 'manned Moon landing'. Also right around the release of Eyes Wide Shut, and shortly after the death of Stanley Kubrick. I wonder if they had been in contact?
Dead July 8, 1999. Conrad was a part of Apollo 12, the mission where they famously 'broke' the video camera about 30 seconds into the mission! If you believe that... "Conrad died on July 8, 1999, from internal injuries sustained in a motorcycle accident."

An accident where he was going the speed limit, and wearing his helmet.

[Image: Fallen_Astronaut.jpg]

What a bunch of pricks, stuck a hammer in the dirt (in studio?) and called it a 'Fallen Astronaut' monument'.

[Image: tools23.jpg]

the hammer and feather trick proved nothing imo

you could easily use a weighted feather. the resolution was so low people couldn't tell what was what

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08-31-2018, 08:36 PM
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09-01-2018, 02:33 AM
Post: #255
RE: July 21, 1969: Man walks on the Moon for the 1st time?
We got Joe Rogan in this thread! He voted 'I dunno'!

The biggest f ups were the lack of convincing lunar gravity (esp. in the Apollo 11 footage, because after that they used wires to try simulate it more accurately, and remember 12 and 13 have 30 seconds of footage between them, so that gave them some more time for R&D) and the Sun that looks like a metal-halide floodlight or spotlight(s).

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Impossible to fake! It would have been easier to go, than fake that! Yep!
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