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The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
04-01-2018, 09:50 AM
Post: #46
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
standard of living is hard to define

Americans have more space and they have cheaper access to material goods, esp. luxury and cars

however the US has too many FIXED costs that you don't have in other countries.

Japan has a high standard of living but some people might not think so due to lack of space, but they actually like more cramped and compact conditions. Same with a place like Hong Kong

Hong Kong has amazing infrastructure and tons of public housing. they hand out excess surplus governmental budgets to the people as well.

US to me is the land of GREED. everything is about money.. worse than China.

i went to ER one time in China and got IV and stayed overnight. total damage 100 USD without INSURANCE. LMFAO
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04-01-2018, 09:57 AM
Post: #47
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
(03-31-2018 02:42 PM)jho Wrote:  Europeans are the Kobe beef of domesticated humans, pampered, feed lots of beer, naive, and kept. But they get 12 weeks vacation.

They sure laid down for that Muslim invasion. Now they're all getting stabbed to death be rape gangs thanks to liberal immigration policies & neocon wars planned out of of DC & Tel Aviv. Too bad for them they've been disarmed decades ago.
Back in the mid19th c., the socialist theory was that the people should democratically own and run the major industries, and then used them for people's benefit. The workers should unite internationally and not fight eachother as the kings tools. Do I have the basic idea right?

Socialist parties got elected in Europe, achieved welfare reforms so that the people could be the kobe beef. But they didn't nationalise the industries and when TPTB instigated WWI, the majority of the countries' socialists supported the wars on each side. What a mess.

So even if you go back in history this chaotic contradicting self defeating phenomenon was in operation.
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04-01-2018, 10:29 AM
Post: #48
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
(04-01-2018 09:50 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  standard of living is hard to define

Americans have more space and they have cheaper access to material goods, esp. luxury and cars

however the US has too many FIXED costs that you don't have in other countries.

Japan has a high standard of living but some people might not think so due to lack of space, but they actually like more cramped and compact conditions. Same with a place like Hong Kong

Hong Kong has amazing infrastructure and tons of public housing. they hand out excess surplus governmental budgets to the people as well.

US to me is the land of GREED. everything is about money.. worse than China.

i went to ER one time in China and got IV and stayed overnight. total damage 100 USD without INSURANCE. LMFAO

Working class and middle class americans have more purchasing power for luxury items compared to Europe, but they're also under tons more pressure due housing and tuition bubbles that are inflated artificially to keep the 'murican hamster spinning.

Some kid living with his mom can afford a "cheap" sports car like a Ford Mustang in the us while the avg middle class Euro earning $1700 a month cannot. On the other hand post-grad in continental Europe is like 2-3k per semester.
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04-01-2018, 10:33 AM
Post: #49
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
Yep. and also a lot of the Uni and Masters tuition is FREE

euros are also encouraged to vacation for 1-2 years between high school and UNI
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04-01-2018, 10:36 AM
Post: #50
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
yeah, their students also get to do 1 year exchange programme to other euro countries through Erasmus.
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04-01-2018, 11:27 AM
Post: #51
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
Europeans get all their "free" stuff by paying over 50% of their income in taxes. The US has one of the most progressive tax systems in the world and even our rich people aren't robbed to that extent.

Our colleges are expensive for really just one reason. The US guarantees loans to just about anyone who goes to college. Colleges can, and do, jack up prices knowing that the government will cover the expenses. The more they charge the more the government hands out. Kids going into college have been sold a narrative that they'll make enough money with a degree to easily pay off the debt. It's a complete lie, of course. There's currently over a trillion dollars in delinquent student loans and no way to discharge that debt in bankruptcy court. Europe has kept costs down by only paying for college for the best students. I suspect the education bubble will soon burst here. People are starting to figure out that they can go to trade school for a lot less money and get better paying jobs once they graduate.

This is one reason why I'm optimistic about the coming Satya Yuga. Our universities are breeding grounds for Marxists and when the university system collapses under its own weight people will finally learn to be useful eaters in a capitalist economy.
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04-01-2018, 01:19 PM
Post: #52
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
Quote:Under the regime, you are only taxed in Spain on Spanish income at a rate of 24% up to €600,000 (2015 and 2016). For more than €600,000, in 2016 the tax rate was decreased from 47% to 45%. There's no capital gains tax payable on interest outside of Spain.

Quote:Tax rates are progressive and range from 23% to 43%. Additional taxes are due at the regional (0.9% to 1.4%) and local (0.1% to 0.8%) levels. If you're a foreign resident working in Italy, you're only taxed on the income earned in Italy.

Quote:n practice, less than 50% of inhabitants in France pay any income tax at all; only around 14% pay at the rate of 30%, and less than 1% pay at the rate of 45%.

Quote:How much is the German tax?
In 2018, this basic tax allowance is 9,000 euros if you are unmarried and not in a civil partnership. For couples who are married or in a civil partnership is 18,000. If your taxable income is higher than these amounts, you will pay income tax on it. The taxation rates vary from 14 percent to 42 percent.
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04-02-2018, 09:36 AM
Post: #53
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
In addition to income taxes you have VATs, various social security taxes, etc.
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04-02-2018, 10:11 AM
Post: #54
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
(04-02-2018 09:36 AM)Count Iblis Wrote:  In addition to income taxes you have VATs, various social security taxes, etc.

Why are you so short and unhealthy compared to Europeans?

That's the #1 barometer for life satisfaction. Wealth is secondary. A morbidly obese man in a motorized wheelchair will never have a high quality of life, even if he is sitting in a mansion in the Hamptons.
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04-03-2018, 11:11 AM
Post: #55
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
I don't know if we're particularly short, at least white people here. We're unhealthy because we have so much food that we eat too much. And a lot of that food is pretty crappy. Our processed foods are loaded with high fructose corn syrup.
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04-03-2018, 11:28 AM
Post: #56
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
(04-03-2018 11:11 AM)Count Iblis Wrote:  We're unhealthy because we have so much food that we eat too much.

Your agricultural exports are horrible in quality... You tolerate toxic chemicals and pesticides that are banned in the EU and most of Asia.

That is also completely irrelevant when you are comparing developed countries. Everyone in western Europe can afford as much food as they want. Who is going hungry in Denmark or Germany? Their welfare is also more generous, so lower food insecurity across the board.
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04-04-2018, 04:48 AM
Post: #57
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
Gas is expensive in Europe so people walk a lot more than in the US. We're also a high time preference people (check up private consumption per GDP in the US compared to other countries) so don't resist the urge to eat.
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04-04-2018, 12:45 PM
Post: #58
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
(04-04-2018 04:48 AM)Count Iblis Wrote:  Gas is expensive in Europe so people walk a lot more than in the US. We're also a high time preference people (check up private consumption per GDP in the US compared to other countries) so don't resist the urge to eat.

You're an idiot. Sorry.
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04-04-2018, 10:58 PM
Post: #59
RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
Now that I think about it, the American Dream was based on the male patriarch working long hours every day, week in, week out, for decades, While the loving wife and mother stayed at home and raised their 3 kids whilst doing the housework and making sure that Father's pipe and slippers were ready for him when he came home. It was about owning bigger cars and homes, and serving bigger plates at dinner time, than their other western counterparts.

It was never about travel overseas or expanding one's horizons.


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04-05-2018, 04:29 AM
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RE: The Forces Driving Middle-Aged White People's 'Deaths Of Despair'
(04-04-2018 12:45 PM)Ghost of Hellfire Awaits Wrote:  
(04-04-2018 04:48 AM)Count Iblis Wrote:  Gas is expensive in Europe so people walk a lot more than in the US. We're also a high time preference people (check up private consumption per GDP in the US compared to other countries) so don't resist the urge to eat.

You're an idiot. Sorry.

please refrain from insulting others

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