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Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
01-24-2018, 03:55 AM
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Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ality.html
Quote: After the third and final Punic War, Carthage fell into Roman hands, followed by most of the other dependencies of the Carthaginian Empire.

Prof Mattei claimed that it was as the capital of Rome's North African provinces that Cartagena became a hotbed of sexual perversion, gradually influencing Rome itself, which eventually fell to barbarian tribes in 410AD.

The corruption and decadence of some Roman emperors has been a staple of the cinema for decades, from humorous pastiches such as Frankie Howerd's 1970s television series Up Pompeii! to the 1960 Hollywood film Spartacus.
Roberto De Mattei, 63, the deputy head of the country's National Research Council, claimed that the empire was fatally weakened after conquering Carthage, which he described as "a paradise for homosexuals".

The remarks prompted angry calls for his resignation, with critics saying his comments were homophobic, offensive and unbecoming of his position.

The fall of the Roman Empire was a result of "the effeminacy of a few in Carthage, a paradise for homosexuals, who infected the many.

"The abhorrent presence of a few gays infected a good part of the (Roman) people," Prof Mattei told Radio Maria, a Catholic radio station.

The Roman Republic achieved domination over Carthage, in present-day Tunisia, during the Punic Wars of the third and second centuries BC, during which Hannibal made his ultimately abortive crossing of the Alps with war elephants.

A homoerotic scene in Spartacus in which Laurence Olivier's character, the Roman General Crassus, attempts to seduce a young slave played by Tony Curtis was cut from the original film but restored in the 1990s.

A more muscular portrayal of Roman manhood was offered by the 2000 film Gladiator, starring Russell Crowe as a betrayed general who comes to Rome to seek revenge as a professional fighter.

Prof Mattei, a conservative Catholic and a former adviser on international affairs to the government, drew a parallel between the supposed moral degeneracy of imperial Rome and that of contemporary Italy.

"Today we live in an era in which the worst vices are inscribed in law as human rights. "Every evil must have its punishment, either in our times or in the afterlife." Politicians and academics were left aghast by his remarks and more than 7,000 have signed a petition calling for his immediate resignation.
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01-24-2018, 05:15 AM
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RE: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
So what is the theory here? Homosexuality causes cultural degeneracy which causes decadence which causes the state to fail?
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01-24-2018, 08:48 AM
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Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
I think it means when things are good weak people survive and when weak people survive things get bad.

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01-24-2018, 09:21 AM
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RE: Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
That's not true.
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01-24-2018, 09:45 AM
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RE: Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
The sack of Rome was led by Alaric and his division of non-Roman, Germanic mercenaries who were nevertheless part of the imperial army, defended Rome and had citizenship all due to colonization. Sounds familiar?
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01-24-2018, 11:17 AM
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RE: Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
By the time the western Roman empire was sacked by vandals, it was a Christian theocracy and sodomy was a capital crime.

This had nothing whatsoever to do with faggotry.

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01-24-2018, 11:49 AM
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RE: Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
(01-24-2018 11:17 AM)Ghost of Hellfire Awaits Wrote:  By the time the western Roman empire was sacked by vandals, it was a Christian theocracy and sodomy was a capital crime.

This had nothing whatsoever to do with faggotry.

This lol, there is elements of the right wing that are just as bizarrely obsessed with gays as they are Jews.
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01-24-2018, 12:09 PM
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RE: Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
(01-24-2018 11:17 AM)Ghost of Hellfire Awaits Wrote:  By the time the western Roman empire was sacked by vandals, it was a Christian theocracy and sodomy was a capital crime.

This had nothing whatsoever to do with faggotry.

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I think Carthage was likely Christian by then as well, probably Syrian Orthodox. Though there isn't a lot of evidence there is some that points in that direction.

I'm not sure what the penalty for sodomy was then though.

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01-24-2018, 12:20 PM
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RE: Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
The Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire) lasted all the way until the 1400s. Why didn't faggotry destroy the eastern half? The Greeks were notorious for tolerating pederasty and homosexuality, or at least the Romans stereotyped them as such.


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01-24-2018, 12:42 PM
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RE: Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
Not at all interested in the subject myself, but it might be interesting to read what the Rum Orthodox of the period wrote about the lifestyle. I do not believe it was better tolerated in the east than in the west..
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01-24-2018, 05:18 PM
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RE: Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
I THINK THEY ARE FAGGVTS???!!!
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01-25-2018, 12:27 AM
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RE: Prof Mattei: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
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I think homosexuality is an off-shoot of a fallen society. My point being that the society was already in decay and probably heading toward a harsh ending. The homosexuality was just a branch of the already existing decadence. The USA seems to have followed that trend also.
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