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07-20-2017, 03:23 PM
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Come back to the forum friend. You have been vindicated.

Quote:Trump ends CIA program to arm, train anti-Assad rebels in Syria: U.S. officials

The Trump administration has decided to halt the CIA’s covert program to equip and train certain rebel groups fighting the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, two U.S. officials said, a move sought by Assad ally Russia.

The U.S. decision, said one of the officials, is part of an effort by the administration to improve relations with Russia, which along with Iranian-supported groups has largely succeeded in preserving Assad’s government in the six-year-civil war.

The CIA program began in 2013 as part of efforts by the administration of then-President Barack Obama to overthrow Assad, but produced little success, said the officials, both of whom are familiar with the program and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The Washington Post was first to report the program’s suspension on Wednesday. White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders declined to comment on the topic at the White House briefing.

The CIA also declined to comment.

The decision was made with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and CIA Director Mike Pompeo after they consulted with lower ranking officials and before Trump’s July 7 meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in Germany. It was not part of U.S.-Russian negotiations on a ceasefire in southwestern Syria, the two officials said.

One of the officials said the United States was not making a major concession, given Assad’s grip on power, although not on all of Syria, “but it’s a signal to Putin that the administration wants to improve ties to Russia.”

Trump is under intense scrutiny by Congress and a special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and whether Trump’s campaign had ties to the activity. Russia has denied U.S. intelligence agencies’ allegations of Moscow meddling, and Trump has denied collusion between his campaign and Russians.

A downside of the CIA program, one of the officials said, is that some armed and trained rebels defected to Islamic State and other radical groups, and some members of the previous administration favoured abandoning the program.

Before assuming office in January, Trump suggested he could end support for Free Syrian Army groups and give priority to the fight against Islamic State.

A separate effort by the U.S. military effort to train, arm and support other Syrian rebel groups with air strikes and other actions will continue, the officials said.

However, aside from air strikes after the Syrian military launched a chemical weapons attack, the Trump administration has not increased military support from the limits set by the Obama administration.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor...e35743136/

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07-20-2017, 03:46 PM
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07-20-2017, 03:53 PM
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07-20-2017, 04:07 PM
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yet we see that Kushner wants to send more blackwater into the region.

perhaps ISIS has expended their usefulness and the jig is up.

I do not believe for a second that Donald is a peacemaker
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07-20-2017, 04:16 PM
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Quote:A separate effort by the U.S. military effort to train, arm and support other Syrian rebel groups with air strikes and other actions will continue, the officials said.

ding ding ding

he ends an already failed CIA program to look like the good guy. meanwhile the MILITARY is still funding ISIS and other groups.

what a joke and non-story
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07-20-2017, 04:53 PM
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This is yuuuuge.

Very difficult to minimize the magnitude of this. Russiagate coming into focus.


*I do realize it's not the #1 issue for everyone here Wink

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07-20-2017, 04:57 PM
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this is diversion. it's like saying the CIA shut down their spying program but the NSA is continuing it. it's meaningless.

they shut down the failed CIA version of training ISIS type mercenaries. the US military is still doing it and maybe they are more effective at training ISIS
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07-20-2017, 05:00 PM
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(07-20-2017 04:57 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  this is diversion. it's like saying the CIA shut down their spying program but the NSA is continuing it. it's meaningless.

they shut down the failed CIA version of training ISIS type mercenaries. the US military is still doing it and maybe they are more effective at training ISIS

We'll see EY. Time will tell.

In the meantime, in the words of another favorite of yours....





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07-20-2017, 05:01 PM
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(07-20-2017 04:07 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  yet we see that Kushner wants to send more blackwater into the region.

perhaps ISIS has expended their usefulness and the jig is up.

I do not believe for a second that Donald is a peacemaker

Afghanistan EY. Kushner and his little friend want to hand the opium fields of the Hindu Kush over to the private sector.

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07-20-2017, 05:10 PM
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ISIS is all over the place there, hence why I said region.

Trump isn't stopping the warmongering, this is just a PR move to appease Russia or maybe the american people.

people will come away with the headline about the US discontinuing the arming/funding of ISIS.. but that isn't true since the US military is still doing it.
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07-20-2017, 05:14 PM
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If I may be so bold as to invoke Vietnam, this is 1973, not 1975.

I wish it was that final helicopter airlift, it isn't obviously but ending the CIA training program seems like an excellent start.

Getting them to move away from the Kurds will be the hardest part.
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07-20-2017, 05:16 PM
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(07-20-2017 05:10 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  ISIS is all over the place there, hence why I said region.

Trump isn't stopping the warmongering, this is just a PR move to appease Russia or maybe the american people.

people will come away with the headline about the US discontinuing the arming/funding of ISIS.. but that isn't true since the US military is still doing it.

Oh come now, the headline is gold. They're ending a CIA program that they never really even admitted existed until today. It's a massive truth drop if nothing else.

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07-20-2017, 05:17 PM
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Parts for Toyota trucks might be hard to come by now for al Nusra. But the Cubans made do I guess Smile
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07-20-2017, 05:17 PM
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i think they did admit there were only 50 "moderate rebels" left in this CIA program and that it was a failure
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07-21-2017, 12:05 AM
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Regardless of what other warmongering the Trump administration might be engaged in, a victory is a victory and ending this ridiculously failed program in Syria is without a doubt a victory for Trump and for anyone out there who hopes for peace in the region. This was not a politically expedient move for Trump. The Rachel Maddows of the world will lay into him over this further driving home their Russian-traitor narrative. He gained little by ending this, but it was the right thing to do. I am not going to belittle this accomplishment. Now, as far as Kushner, Blackwater and the treasure trove of poppy fields in Afghanistan, well, I'll judge that when it happens. We shall see.



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― Philip K. Dick, Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said
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