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Bob Dylan awarded the Nobel Prize for his lifetime of service. For whom, exactly?
10-15-2016, 01:47 PM
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RE: Bob Dylan awarded the Nobel Prize for his lifetime of service. For whom, exactly?
Good find, canuckster. I didn't know Bob Dylan's son was that connected to the political elite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Dylan
Quote:Dylan founded Wondros, a full-service production company which specializes in translating complex business and prosocial ideas into simple media messages. Wondros clients are a mix of organizations, corporations, and individuals, including the Clinton Global Initiative, Desmond Tutu, Creative Commons, The Columbia School of Journalism, TED, the Ford Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Harvard University, MIT Media Lab, Major League Baseball, Cameron Diaz, and the Oprah Winfrey Network.

At Wondros, Dylan and the collective of storytellers focus on exploring and explaining innovative projects and people. A film for The European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), which explains the Large Hadron Collider, led to Fast Company naming Dylan one of the Most Creative People of 2010.

He has created media projects for a diverse group of organizations, including Bono’s non-profit ONE, the (RED) campaign fighting AIDS in Africa, the Council On Foreign Relations, The Getty Foundation's Pacific Standard Time Project, and a short film exploring innovation at Harvard Medical School for the CATALYST project. Dylan is also an active member of TED (Technology Entertainment Design), where he has created materials and short films in support of TED Prize Winners.

Dylan’s work in music videos won him a 2012 MVPA Best Alternative Video Award for his music video “Lonely Boy,” by the Black Keys.[8] Dylan also worked on the award-winning Ad Council campaign, “Your GED.”
Quote:In 2008, he directed the will.i.am Emmy Award winning music video "Yes We Can," inspired by Barack Obama's campaign for president. The film was created in three days, and featured over 30 celebrity supporters singing then-Candidate Barack Obama’s New Hampshire Primary concession speech. Originally posted on YouTube, “Yes We Can” received over 26 million views just days after its release. In 2012, AdAge recognized “Yes We Can” as one of the most influential political ads of all time.

I wonder if it was Jesse Dylan's media company which came up with Obama's slogan Change.

This was Operation Rolling Stone. It was the promotion of change in all forms.



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10-16-2016, 04:13 AM
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10-16-2016, 05:40 AM
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10-16-2016, 06:23 AM
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RE: Bob Dylan awarded the Nobel Prize for his lifetime of service. For whom, exactly?
Dylan "poem" on sale was actually Hank Snow song - Reuters, Wed May 20, 2009
Quote:A "poem" purportedly written by a teenage Bob Dylan and up for auction at Christie's is actually a song written by the late Canadian country singer Hank Snow, the auction house said on Wednesday.

Christie's announced on Tuesday the sale of the hand-written poem believed to have been written in 1957 when Dylan was 16 and away at Jewish camp.

But Christie's failed to detect that the words, with a few minor variations, matched those of a song previously recorded by Snow, who died in 1999 at age 85.

Reuters discovered the lyrics matched the Snow song when alerted by a reader. Reuters then informed the auction house.

"Additional information has come to our attention about the handwritten poem submitted by Bob Dylan to his camp newspaper, written when he was 16, entitled 'Little Buddy.' The words are in fact a revised version of lyrics of a Hank Snow song," Christie's said in a statement.

"This still remains among the earliest known handwritten lyrics of Bob Dylan and Christie's is pleased to offer them in our Pop Culture auction on June 23."

The manuscript had been expected to fetch $10,000 to $15,000.

Christie's said Dylan, still using his given name Robert Zimmerman, signed the piece Bobby Zimmerman and submitted it to the Herzl Camp newspaper. The editor of the paper kept it for more than 50 years and recently donated it to Herzl Camp, a Jewish camp in Wisconsin, Christie's said.

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10-16-2016, 06:33 AM
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Israel, the “Neighborhood Bully”: Deconstructing the Lyrics of Bob Dylan in the Light of the Gaza Crisis
Quote:The song begins by stating two key precepts underscoring the Zionist world view.

The first that the enemies of Israel “claim he’s on their land” serves as a rebuke to those who deny the legitimacy of the historic claim to the land of Israel by the Jewish people insisted on by Zionist ideology.

The second, that he is “outnumbered by a million to one” posits the frequently alluded to representation of Israel as the underdog; a small state surrounded by hostile nations whose sheer vastness in numbers continually present a threat to its existence.

The second phase of the song underlines the ages-long reason for the creation of a Jewish state:

Being driven out of every land

He’s wandered the earth an exiled man

Seen his family scattered, people hounded and torn

He’s always on trial for just being born


The Jew is portrayed as a perpetual victim in regard to who, according to Dylan, a “license to kill him given out to every manic”.

But there is pride in his survival instinct as “every empire that enslaved him is gone: Egypt and Rome even the great Babylon”.

Given this background, Dylan ruminates with heavy irony that he is “not supposed to fight back and have thick skin, supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in”; this a reference not only to wars fought with Arab armies and incursions made by Palestinian guerrillas into Israeli territory but also the gnawing feeling among Jews of the passive submission to a bestial fate which is suggestive of the Holocaust imagery of Jews being herded into gas chambers without fighting back.

Thus, with biting humour, Dylan decries the supposition that “he’s surrounded by pacifists who all want peace” and recounts how “when he knocked out a lynch-mob, old women condemned him; said he should apologize”.

In the earlier decades of the 20th Century, Ze’ev (nee Vladimir) Jabotinsky, the man acknowledged as the founding father of the Israeli Defence Force, had sought to create a new species of man; namely that of the “fighting Jew”.

And for Dylan the survival of Israel is impliedly predicated on such species of person who can be directed to neutralise all threats to its existence. The song’s reference to the destroying of a “bomb factory” alluded to the destruction in 1981 of the Osirak nuclear reactor being built by the regime of Saddam Hussein.

Criticism of Israel’s right to exist and its ‘counter-measures’ appear to him to be predicated on anti-Semitism, the basis of which, according to Dylan’s words, is both inexplicable and irrational: “Does he (meaning the Jew) change the course of rivers, does he pollute the moving stars?” he asks.

The Jew after all, he sings, has contributed so much to civilization and special mention is made of the scientific advances which have been made by people of Jewish origin via the lines: “took sickness and disease and turned them into health”.

And of the achievement of Israel, “he’s made a garden and a paradise in the desert sand”.

The following lines are an instructive indication of the Jewish-Zionist mindset:

He got no allies to really speak of

What he gets he must pay for

He don’t get it out of love


What Dylan appears to be saying is that what the Jewish state acquires is as a result of hard-bargaining. Israel is ultimately alone and must be self-reliant.

The advances made towards the establishment and later the sustenance of the Jewish state have materialised through hard-nosed negotiations as well as the formation of some bizarre and unusual alliances, a number of which have been temporary.

The Balfour Declaration issued by the British in 1917, a 67-word text in which the war-time foreign minister, James Arthur Balfour viewed with favour the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people, was as Winston Churchill later observed not a “mere act of crusading enthusiasm or quixotic philanthropy”.

It was issued he continued “with the object of promoting the general victory of the Allies, for which we expected and received valued and important assistance”.

Such help and assistance included mobilizing influential Jewish-American figures in media, industry and politics to bring the United States into the war on the side of the allies who were facing defeat by Germany in the latter part of 1917.

For Balfour, a self-acknowledged anti-Semite who recoiled from the idea that Britain should accept more Jewish immigrants, a Jewish homeland meant perfect sense. Affecting his view was also the fact that he was what came to be termed a Christian Zionist.

The modern alliance between Jewish-Israeli interests and Christian Zionism has played a major part in fortifying support within the United States for the state of Israel.

A fundamental plank of Christian Zionist-Dispensationalist thinking is that following the creation of the modern state of Israel, the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem must form a necessary precursor to the end days during which Christ’s chosen will be secretly raptured.

American evangelical support for Israel is unconditional, and over the years their members have given millions of dollars to groups in Israel which are opposed to any form of concessions to the Palestinians.

But the support granted by John Hagee, chairman of Christians United for Israel, and the likes of Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell, is not predicated on a “love” for the Jews.

Their eschatological doctrine is premised on the belief that the Jews, who rejected Jesus, will be given a final opportunity to accept Christ and will be put to the sword if they refuse.

Yet this bizarre, evidently mutually beneficial, alliance persists with the willing cooperation of both Diaspora Jews and Israelis. The Christian Zionists according to a quote attributed to the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu function in the final analysis as “useful idiots”.

The “he don’t get it out of love” sentiment has a basis when reference is made to the later discovery that prominent non-Jewish supporters of Israel and Jewish interests have harboured deep resentments about Jews.

President Harry Truman, during whose tenure the state of Israel received United States recognition, noted in a 1947 diary entry discovered in 2003 that he found Jews to be “very, very selfish”.

“When they have power”, he continued, “Physical, financial or political, neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog.”

Similarly, the discovery of tape recordings between Richard Nixon and Billy Graham; the former whose presidency staunchly favoured Israel and the latter, the world famous evangelist whose ministry was pro-Israeli, in which both criticized the policies of Israel and expressed negative views about the influence of Jews on American culture documented a scenario in which a gentile supporter of Israel had an unflattering privately held view.

The line that “He got no allies to really speak of” may ostensibly be pooh-poohed by simply recounting the special relationship between Israel and the United States. It is a relationship which is underscored by the power and leverage exercised by Israel-Jewish lobby groups in particular that of the America-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

Although America is seen as the great ally and benefactor of the Israeli state; demonstrated through its vetoing of resolutions against it in the United Nations and giving it military aid to the tune of billions of dollars every year, such an alliance is not necessarily presumed to be an everlasting one.

There is much truth to the thesis that America has coldly considered Israel to be a useful asset in the Middle East during the Cold War-era and beyond; as Vice President Joe Biden said in a speech before AIPAC, “If there weren’t an Israel, we’d have to invent one.”

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10-16-2016, 07:19 AM
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04-09-2019, 02:50 AM
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Owen Benjamin #490 Bob Dylan is a demonic scam, I get goats, boomer fathers failed you


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04-09-2019, 03:04 AM
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04-09-2019, 03:05 AM
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Dylan is definitely overrated imo

you just don't feel it when he sings.. all hat no cattle I guess

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04-09-2019, 03:07 AM
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whoa. MISSED THIS ONE

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04-09-2019, 03:08 AM
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We've made it guys. We've got our champion big bear out there battling the dick clippers.
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04-09-2019, 07:33 AM
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“Bob is not authentic at all. He’s a plagiarist, and his name and voice are fake. Everything about Bob is a deception. We are like night and day, he and I.” [size=xx-large][b]

- joni mitchell

I don't get the hype at all.

i really don't. people lionize him.. but i'm like this dude is not authentic

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04-09-2019, 08:03 AM
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Robert Zimmerman always stole from the best people which made him a good songwriter.


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04-09-2019, 08:54 AM
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Bob Dylan Cheats Again?
His Nobel lecture may have lifted from SparkNotes—possibly the latest of his artistic thefts, and one of the most fascinating.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainmen...sm/530283/
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04-09-2019, 09:33 AM
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I like a lot of Bob’s songs, though musically he’s not very gifted

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