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Unknown Players At Major World Events? Turkey's Russian Jet Shootdown
05-01-2016, 07:01 AM
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(05-01-2016 06:47 AM)Dagwood Wrote:  Anyway, I'm not up for convincing anyone here, orrr anywhere. Not up for any argument on this stuff. Way beyond that. No time for it. That was 20 years and a few thousand in-depth hours ago. Without doing the immense amount of objective & logic-based leg work on this subject I don't really feel the need to face challengers at this point in me grey-bearded career. Anybody that wants me to share what know what I know... cool. Anybody that brings somethings here that I'm not aware of and through solid investigation I feel is legitimate... even cooler.

please provide your best proof of aliens. I'm not talking about disinfo admissions from US intelligence officers or military men. I'm talking about physical evidence or incontrovertible video evidence of EXTRATERRESTIALS.

I have done my fair share of research into this subject. I have discernment regarding these issues. I don't make very long winded posts, but I know what I'm talking about. I have not seen a single piece of evidence that even HIGHLY SUGGESTS that aliens have visited earth.

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05-01-2016, 07:03 AM
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RE: Unknown Players At Major World Events? Turkey's Russian Jet Shootdown
if you want to talk about supernatural activity, I have mentioned the LADY OF ZEITOUN, something I consider HIGHLY SUGGESTIVE of supernatural activity.

the UFO world has no equivalent to the LADY OF ZEITOUN.

they don't even have something like FATIMA/MIRACLE OF THE SUN
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05-01-2016, 07:04 AM (This post was last modified: 05-01-2016 07:04 AM by Rako.)
Post: #48
RE: Unknown Players At Major World Events? Turkey's Russian Jet Shootdown
(05-01-2016 06:47 AM)Dagwood Wrote:  Anyway, I'm not up for convincing anyone here, orrr anywhere. Not up for any argument on this stuff. Way beyond that. No time for it. That was 20 years and a few thousand in-depth hours ago. Without doing the immense amount of objective & logic-based leg work on this subject I don't really feel the need to face challengers at this point in me grey-bearded career. Anybody that wants me to share what know what I know... cool. Anybody that brings somethings here that I'm not aware and through solid investigation I feel are legitimate... even cooler.
OK, I am open minded and interested in this topic. I am simply interested in something that is major, very strong evidence that we are talking about either time travelers or ETs, at least one of which I guess have visited us by now.

I can tell you that there are real, legitimate reports of real unconventional craft that perform maneuvers beyond our normal understanding of craft, like hovering in midair and then skidding off in a few seconds. I have close friends who make these sightings. But to establish it as an ET or Time Traveler in the last 40 years is tough because of covert classified models like drones and TR-3B (black triangle model).

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As the crafts moved over head you could make out a faint shape around the triangle, the only way you could even notice was that it would block out stars as it moved even though the triangle part wasnt over the star yet. Both craft continued at this slow pace until I could not see them from the front anymore and then they became invisible in the night sky. I live close to Red Stone Arsenal so I cant say that it wasnt a military plane, but it sure wasnt a plane as we know it today.
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05-01-2016, 07:05 AM
Post: #49
RE: Unknown Players At Major World Events? Turkey's Russian Jet Shootdown
(05-01-2016 06:59 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
(05-01-2016 06:34 AM)Dagwood Wrote:  
(05-01-2016 05:31 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  do you pay attention to ants that walk along on the sidewalk?

it's the same with aliens from another galaxy. they would not give a shit about us.

i do think other lifeforms exist, because the universe is big.. but I will need more proof to conclude they have been visiting us.

I think alien stuff is used to take inquisitive and establishment critical people into LALA LAND

Maybe your to young EY... ya ever heard of an ant farm???

Do you understand they we as modern humans do everything but NOT study & dissect every single thing that lives on earth be it blue whale, redwood tree, electron or quark?? I mean come on...

yep. I had an ant farm. my point wasn't literal. it was to point out the HUGE GULF between capability between them and us.. which is probably more than human to ant.

my point is if they have this high technology to time warp between galaxies, they prob wouldnt' care about us. maybe have a look and bounce.

HUMANS have PALTRY knowledge and don't even understand the basics of the origin of life/universe and biological activity. lots of theories, but very little fundamental KNOWLEDGE. this is why they examine lowly animals.

superior aliens know everything and would not care about lame and evil human beings.

So all your assumptions are based on the assumption that they aren't experimenting, throwing seeds in the wind to try sprout lasting life or someone has gone rogue and has plans for this place.

In a uni/multi?verse of limitless possibility and you posted that?
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05-01-2016, 07:07 AM
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it's so simple folks.

if you did not know what this was, wouldn't you think it was alien craft, esp. if seen from a distance?

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this is the public stuff the US govt has.

imagine the EVEN MORE EXPERIMENTAL CRAFT they don't want people to know about!

that is 99.999999% of UFO sightings. it's so simple.

think about the only conspiracy topic they cover on NATIONAL TV. UFO coverups where MILITARY MEN breaking their CRYPTO-17 SECURITY CLEARANCE are fearless on TV revealing massive govt coverups of UFOs.

PSY-OPS FOLKS. RESEARCH IT!
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05-01-2016, 07:11 AM
Post: #51
RE: Unknown Players At Major World Events? Turkey's Russian Jet Shootdown
the grey alien is a JUNGIAN type of archetypal sublimation of the fear of the asian man.

it has almond shaped eyes, is androgynous, has a huge head, little body. that's what it is.

the "good aliens", the NORDICS, are the good guys, the BLONDE OVERLORDS on earth. this is veiled white supremacy.

since white supremacy is no longer tolerated by polite society, they have resorted to making metaphorical claims to white supremacy.

how come only 'muricans or westerners get abducted by aliens? i have not heard of asian people claiming this. maybe they exist, but it's a tiny minority.

the whole UFO/Alien thing is a joke IMRO. In my researched opinion.

I'm not saying aliens don't exist, they do.. but we haven't seen them.

Humans have an inflated sense of their own importance. We don't know anything. we don't even know why we dream. we don't even know how to cure baldness lol. hilariously low level technology.
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05-01-2016, 07:14 AM
Post: #52
RE: Unknown Players At Major World Events? Turkey's Russian Jet Shootdown
from my years and years, actually 10+ years of paying attention to this. this is probably the best 'evidence' i've found of ET.

very realistic movements. probably fake, but it's the best fake I've seen.



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05-01-2016, 07:21 AM
Post: #53
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(05-01-2016 06:59 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  HUMANS have PALTRY knowledge and don't even understand the basics of the origin of life/universe and biological activity. lots of theories, but very little fundamental KNOWLEDGE. this is why they examine lowly animals.

Magellan's voyage circumnavigated in 1522. [Image: 56ded332-c386-4b26-9cbf-aa6605bca6f3.jpg]

Ten years later, Calvin wrote in his famous Institutes that Plato lost himself in his idea of a "round globe".

Calvinism is one of the main branches of Protestantism and his Institutes is still a major work, with many Calvinists going by the "Biblical" view of geology, although nowadays they tend to accept the round earth.
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05-01-2016, 07:42 AM
Post: #54
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(05-01-2016 07:07 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  it's so simple folks.

if you did not know what this was, wouldn't you think it was alien craft, esp. if seen from a distance?
Not this one.
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05-01-2016, 07:43 AM
Post: #55
RE: Unknown Players At Major World Events? Turkey's Russian Jet Shootdown
(05-01-2016 07:14 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  from my years and years, actually 10+ years of paying attention to this. this is probably the best 'evidence' i've found of ET.

very realistic movements. probably fake, but it's the best fake I've seen.
Is fake.
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05-01-2016, 08:20 AM (This post was last modified: 05-01-2016 08:34 AM by Dagwood.)
Post: #56
RE: Unknown Players At Major World Events? Turkey's Russian Jet Shootdown
(05-01-2016 07:01 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
(05-01-2016 06:47 AM)Dagwood Wrote:  Anyway, I'm not up for convincing anyone here, orrr anywhere. Not up for any argument on this stuff. Way beyond that. No time for it. That was 20 years and a few thousand in-depth hours ago. Without doing the immense amount of objective & logic-based leg work on this subject I don't really feel the need to face challengers at this point in me grey-bearded career. Anybody that wants me to share what know what I know... cool. Anybody that brings somethings here that I'm not aware of and through solid investigation I feel is legitimate... even cooler.

please provide your best proof of aliens. I'm not talking about disinfo admissions from US intelligence officers or military men. I'm talking about physical evidence or incontrovertible video evidence of EXTRATERRESTIALS.

I have done my fair share of research into this subject. I have discernment regarding these issues. I don't make very long winded posts, but I know what I'm talking about. I have not seen a single piece of evidence that even HIGHLY SUGGESTS that aliens have visited earth.


See here's the issue...

Where is your incontrovertible evidence of Sandy Hook? Where is your incontravertable eveidence of an Illuminst cabal running the world? What is incontrovertible? Have you taken your own shovel and dug up young Dylan Hockley's grave? If ya did, did you take a picture of it. How do I know you didn't empty the poor dead kids bones outa there first? I wasn't there at the SH cemetery to watch you dig and then open the coffin in one seamless video shot...

See what I'm sayin'. I don't got time for you at this point. Keep up you research. What I do know though is, evidently you haven't been able to find all the same stuff I have. This here is just one weee piece of the best imagery, documents & expert high ranking witness stuff. Even if you found & studied all of that hard/or impossible to debunk stuff I have... Then you gotta listen & watch a few thousand hours of interviews, news items & video documentaries from the best researchers in the field (many scientists) and fined any patterns and consistencies a whole lot from completed unrelated independent sources. After all that what falls to the grounds are the kernels of truth. I have not kept a dossier to build aces for you EY. I learned long ago that is pointless in most any unconventional knowledge pursuit if attempting to evangelize those who aren't quite there yet. You should now EY of the OG.

My conclusions are based the on thousands of pieces of evidence over 3 decades. like the above that you probably have not seen, that is legitimate & not debunkable or easily dispellable including legitimate official documentation, expert eyewitness testimony and film/video.


Here is an 8 part riddle for you EY... Enjoy Smile


1. How do we know that suns/stars other than ours exist when no one has a clear up-close photo... OR, that one hasn't landed on the White House lawn???

2. OK, has anyone applied the same government big time optical & radio wave technology to photograph analyze the inarguable intelligently maneuvering metallic-looking disc/sometimes light emitting hyper-sonic crafts in these photos & videos here??? There are more like this that are very hard to dismiss as swamp gas or birds or 30mph-2ft wide drone.

3. Russian Mi-24 attack helicopter raids in Syria: When wanting to avoid detection by enemy Stinger/MANPAD systems from the ground, Russian pilots stay to a strict pattern of flying where they are not easily visible to these weapon's radar... yet fast enough that large caliber anti-aircraft guns & small arms fire cannot catch them flying at high speed at roof top levels. So they are nearly invisible to those weapons & combatants and even when they can see them their going so fast they can't catch them.

4. Weather balloons & U@ spy planes: How many people have seen those either launched or at altitude? These are or have been flying everywhere around the world all the time. And, many thousands of flights.

5. How many civilian videos or photos of the these things are there on the internet taking off from remote Edwards Airforce Base, White Sands Missile Range or remote weather stations?

6. Ok, if you 'can' find any, how tight are the shots & how clear are the photos considering you'd need very expensive high-tech, or observatory-like, telescopic photo & video equipment... or military-type optical targeting/tracking systems. Hmmmm???

7. If some real non-organic aerial object is traveling fast enough to cover the same distance and a group of jets in 1/60th?-100th?-500th? of the time... how the fuck would you even see it gong by let alone take out your camera and get a clear iphone picture of it. They could be Mi24 flying there way all over at low levels and you'd never ever catch them by sight just like the Stinger radars & the 2,500fps bullets shot at rooftop-level highspeed attack helicopter.

8. Ok, now that's done...
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05-01-2016, 08:24 AM
Post: #57
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I'm tired. I will retreat to my lair maybe never to return. Me haveth nothing to prove-th at with this at this point in life.
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05-01-2016, 08:31 AM
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(05-01-2016 08:24 AM)Dagwood Wrote:  I'm tired. I will retreat to my lair maybe never to return. Me haveth nothing to prove-th at with this at this point in life.
What?
I am genuinely interested in some of the most reliable material that you have got.
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05-01-2016, 08:49 AM
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Quote:Mystery airships or phantom airships are a class of unidentified flying objects best known from a series of newspaper reports originating in the western United States and spreading east during late 1896 and early 1897.

Jacobs believes that many airship tales originated with "enterprising reporters perpetrating journalistic hoaxes."[8] He notes that many of these accounts "are easy to identify because of their tongue-in-cheek tone, and accent on the sensational."[8] Furthermore, in many such newspaper hoaxes, the author makes his intent obvious "by saying – in the last line – that he was writing from an insane asylum (or something to that effect)."
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Quote:1886-10-24 Maracaibo Maracaibo Venezuela A letter from the US consulate in Maracaibo Venezuela was printed in the December 18, 1886 issue of Scientific American reporting a meteorological occurrence described as a bright light accompanied by a humming noise that caused occupants of a hut to become ill.

1896–1897 Mystery airships United States Numerous reports of UFO sightings, attempted abductions that took place around the United States in a 2-year period.

1897-04-17 Aurora, Texas, UFO incident Aurora, Texas United States A tale of a UFO crash and a burial of its alien pilot in the local cemetery was sent to newspapers in Dallas and Fort Worth in April 1897 by local correspondent S.E. Hayden
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05-01-2016, 11:50 AM
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(05-01-2016 04:27 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  just use your common sense

is the entire defense industry is a racket, in addition to being an instrument of world domination for the US/west?

Yes and Yes.

does it make sense for them to PLAY UP Russia and China so they can scare the US taxpayer/legislators to get MORE CASH?

emphatically yes.

If Russia was truly stronger they wouldn't admit it.. too much pride. THey know Russia is probably weaker in terms of military tech, but they play up the threat to secure more DOLLARDS

It's rare, though, for the U.S. to admit this from my observation.

Occasionally, some military analysts will acknowledge that Russia would defeat the U.S. in some situation. When this is mentioned, it's usually in a small-print publication that isn't meant for wider consumption.

The MSM rarely admits to Russia's power and, in fact, normally downplays its capabilities significantly, to the point of pretending that NATO could just waltz into Russia's territory and take it over.

Even with the existing proxy conflicts involving Russia, the U.S. officials peddle lie after lie -- as, for example, claiming that the Ukrainian military would stand a chance against a Russian invasion or that they are doing so presently in the Donbas.

In Syria, they've repeatedly downplayed Russia's capabilities and act like Russia's involvement is insignificant to decisions by the U.S. in the region.

Re: Turkey's shooting down of the Russian jet (via 'Obama's assistance), I listened to a Fox military correspondent discuss the 'lesson' Russia was taught by the Turks from this incident and, thereafter, how they supposedly backed off in challenging Turkey in the region. In fact, everything I've read suggested that Russia upped its attacks near the Turkish border following the attack, beefed up its troop presence in Armenia, and presently doesn't waste a minute working to undermine the Turkish state via discrediting media reports regarding Turkish support of ISIS (among other issues), support for Turkish opposition parties, as well as actions aimed at the Turkish economy. And all of this against a NATO member...

In any case, I think it's best to compare the think-tank publications reporting on Russia vs. the MSM's; different audience; different narratives.
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