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Correcting Bad Grammar is now Racist for SJWs
04-23-2016, 03:47 AM
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Correcting Bad Grammar is now Racist for SJWs
haha. it's not racist, but I do agree with her in some ways.

as long as people can understand you, you're fine. the only time it should matter is if you're publishing an article/book or writing a formal essay.




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04-23-2016, 07:50 AM
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RE: Correcting Bad Grammar is now Racist for SJWs
She's right, to some extent, as language evolves.

However, she's representing a school of grammar in her argument to critique another school.

There's also a middle ground that says that grammatical rules are important but not at the expense of the clarity and quality of the communication.
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04-23-2016, 10:23 AM
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I guess the good news with loosening of grammar rules (and the ability to invent your own) is that anyone will be able to write their own book, in their own style???!!! And you could bypass the traditional book printing rules and print your own via Amazon.com and other online book printing ventures???!!!!

And look I've been inventing my own and getting away with it, with the "???!!!"???!!!

And I mean ???!!!
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04-23-2016, 12:13 PM
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^ hahaha.
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04-23-2016, 12:23 PM
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(04-23-2016 07:50 AM)BRIC Countries Wrote:  She's right, to some extent, as language evolves.

However, she's representing a school of grammar in her argument to critique another school.

There's also a middle ground that says that grammatical rules are important but not at the expense of the clarity and quality of the communication.

Yep. Often times overly verbose writing and conscientious grammatical usage are used to cover up either intentional or unintentional flaws in logic and thinking.

good grammar =/= clarity in communication. It takes years to figure it out but it's true.

also people on the losing side of a debate (mostly SJW liberals) will often resort to grammar policing because that's the only thing can fall back on.

not really caring about arcane grammatical rules and making up your own words is in a way a "FUCK YOU" to the establishment. but you must be clear and concise. that is the catch.

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04-23-2016, 12:29 PM
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I love making up my own words and phrases

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04-23-2016, 12:40 PM
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case in point. Liberal media/academics using grammar to attack Trump:

Donald Trump has the grammar of a fifth grader, study says

Donald Trump might have trouble if he ever appears on "Are you smarter than a fifth grader?"

An analysis of the speeches of Republican presidential candidates by researchers at Carnegie Mellon University found that The Donald's grammar is about that of a fifth grader.

SEE ALSO: What do Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have in common? This message.

Trump's speaking style — often rambling and seemingly off the cuff — has become one of the many bizarre hallmarks of his entirely unconventional campaign.

He remarked recently that he is highly educated and that he has "the best words."



The study, entitled "A Readability Analysis of Campaign Speeches from the 2016 US Presidential Campaign," didn't find Trump's rivals faring much better. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders all scored between sixth- and eighth grade levels.

Trump also scored lowest in vocabulary, coming in at the seventh-grade level.

Trump's grammar isn't just bad for this year — he's also pretty close to being the worst of any president measured. Trump barely ekes it out over — go ahead and take a guess — George W. Bush. Abraham Lincoln scored the highest.

Trump scored low, but he also showed the greatest ability to change his grammar depending the audience. In other words, Trump is a grammar chameleon who can change to suit his listeners.

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Just like I said. When you can't STUMP THE TRUMP, you start engaging in grammar policing. So predictable.

Trump does have somewhat bad grammar BUT he is pretty damn clear when he speaks.

also note the last line I highlighted in bold... He has the ability to ramp it up or down depending on who he is talking to.

I do this in real life too. I intentionally alter my grammar around different types of people. Around academic/business types, I ramp it up a notch.. around Japanese people I speak a polished form of engrish.

the funnest is when you're kind of being loose and people look down on you, then you suddenly do an upwards level shift. then you tell them where you were educated.. and as the conversation goes on they realize you know a lot of things. then they start getting embarrassed. it's hilarious.
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04-23-2016, 12:40 PM
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(04-23-2016 12:23 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  
(04-23-2016 07:50 AM)BRIC Countries Wrote:  She's right, to some extent, as language evolves.

However, she's representing a school of grammar in her argument to critique another school.

There's also a middle ground that says that grammatical rules are important but not at the expense of the clarity and quality of the communication.

Yep. Often times overly verbose writing and conscientious grammatical usage are used to cover up either intentional or unintentional flaws in logic and thinking.

good grammar =/= clarity in communication. It takes years to figure it out but it's true.

also people on the losing side of a debate (mostly SJW liberals) will often resort to grammar policing because that's the only thing can fall back on.

not really caring about arcane grammatical rules and making up your own words is in a way a "FUCK YOU" to the establishment. but you must be clear and concise. that is the catch.

It's a sign of insecurity and often accompanied by grammatical mistakes of their own.
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04-23-2016, 12:48 PM
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RE: Correcting Bad Grammar is now Racist for SJWs
Yeah. You do need to know proper grammar and syntax, but it's not that important in an informal setting like youtube comments sections, forums etc.

I also find that for an informal audience, slightly rough writing is more readable and entertaining. I have spent years developing my distinctive forum writing style. I invented the POWERPOINT style of posting. I see tons of people on the OG posting in this manner now. they used to make fun of me over it, but now it's pretty standard on the OG and related forums.

Supercalo and Jujubre are also examples of people with distinctive "makes you want to read it" writing styles.
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04-23-2016, 12:55 PM
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(04-23-2016 12:40 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  case in point. Liberal media/academics using grammar to attack Trump:

Donald Trump has the grammar of a fifth grader, study says

Donald Trump might have trouble if he ever appears on "Are you smarter than a fifth grader?"

An analysis of the speeches of Republican presidential candidates by researchers at Carnegie Mellon University found that The Donald's grammar is about that of a fifth grader.

SEE ALSO: What do Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have in common? This message.

Trump's speaking style — often rambling and seemingly off the cuff — has become one of the many bizarre hallmarks of his entirely unconventional campaign.

He remarked recently that he is highly educated and that he has "the best words."



The study, entitled "A Readability Analysis of Campaign Speeches from the 2016 US Presidential Campaign," didn't find Trump's rivals faring much better. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders all scored between sixth- and eighth grade levels.

Trump also scored lowest in vocabulary, coming in at the seventh-grade level.

Trump's grammar isn't just bad for this year — he's also pretty close to being the worst of any president measured. Trump barely ekes it out over — go ahead and take a guess — George W. Bush. Abraham Lincoln scored the highest.

Trump scored low, but he also showed the greatest ability to change his grammar depending the audience. In other words, Trump is a grammar chameleon who can change to suit his listeners.

-----

Just like I said. When you can't STUMP THE TRUMP, you start engaging in grammar policing. So predictable.

Trump does have somewhat bad grammar BUT he is pretty damn clear when he speaks.

also note the last line I highlighted in bold... He has the ability to ramp it up or down depending on who he is talking to.

I do this in real life too. I intentionally alter my grammar around different types of people. Around academic/business types, I ramp it up a notch.. around Japanese people I speak a polished form of engrish.

the funnest is when you're kind of being loose and people look down on you, then you suddenly do an upwards level shift. then you tell them where you were educated.. and as the conversation goes on they realize you know a lot of things. then they start getting embarrassed. it's hilarious.

Speaking isn't like writing, and he's also not speaking off a teleprompter like 'Obama'.

The worst part is that there are grammatical mistakes in this article, which speaks to my earlier point about grammar policing.
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04-23-2016, 01:14 PM
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Quote:Trump scored low, but he also showed the greatest ability to change his grammar depending the audience.

lol. yeah. This is just bad.
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04-23-2016, 02:35 PM
Post: #12
RE: Correcting Bad Grammar is now Racist for SJWs
I think that's a typo. Missing a word or misspelling a word is a keyboard mistake. Still bad but not grammatical.

I think grammar has more to do with using words where they're not supposed to be.

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04-25-2016, 11:40 PM
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vid dwn, bt wtvs
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